Referendum this coming Friday 25th May in Ireland

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Where did you get the impression that I was all for the slaughter of unborn babies?

I am merely stating what I observe to be public sentiment. Nothing more than that.

People in Ireland, at least some of them, do not see the Church as a good influence. Do I agree with them?

Definitely not.
 
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I really hope it’s not bad news, but I am fearful of the outcome if this government get their way 😔
 
I won’t be surprised.

With a lot fewer babies being born, who will take care of the rising number of elderly or the increasing cost of their care?

Euthanasia is one solution.
 
The media and government hate the Catholic church and will do anything to have it totally gone out of Irish society.
 
I’ve read some comments on social media that have seen no problem with euthanasia and when people are aposed to it they bring the church into it again. Awful country we live in at the moment 😔
 
I have never been this scared for another country in my life. I might just puke.
 
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I really hope this is wrong, I don’t trust the Irish Times but am fearful.
 
Greetings, Bradskii. Hey, you could give some of these posters a little more credit, even if they’re expressions could be stated better in some ways. 🙂

In short, God can be both omnipotent and omniscient and still allow for the free will of man. It’s certainly logical, because his sovereignty can allow for the contingencies of our free-will choices. This is in contrast to the misguided and ultimately blasphemous strict Calvinist view in which God eternally and capriciously reprobates some to hell.

Rather, God’s knowing something will happen does not necessarily entail that he predetermines it. Logically and truly lovingly he can allow us to have free-will choices in lesser matters and, of course, in the most important matter of salvation.

Further, we need to distinguish between that which God formally wills and that which he permits. He may permit bad things to happen out of respect for giving mankind the power to choose good or evil, for love coerced is no love at all. At the same time, he can bring a greater good out of the worst of circumstances (cf. Rom. 8:28), whether that’s the passage of an abortion referendum In Ireland or some other problem. That what they basically mean when they say “God will find a away.” It’s a casual, anthropomorphic expression that admittedly isn’t ideal, and yet it should be clear that it shouldn’t be taken literally, given that the person who says it has affirmed–or would affirm as a faithful Catholic–that God is omnipotent and ominsicient.

We wish you the best in everything, Bradskii. God bless you.
 
This may have an unintended domino effect.

I know there are pro-abortion movements in the more staunchly Catholic countries like the Philippines. The repeal could probably be very encouraging to them and could trigger a movement to repeal anti-abortion laws in that country.

I know too many Latin Americans and Filipinos say the Catholic Church and its doctrines are the reason why their countries are poor.
 
I’m worried for my parents homeland, Poland. But it won’t be an easy but to crack. We are a very patriotic people and don’t have the contempt for our own culture that many westerners have.
 
God save Poland, The Church’s bastion. It’s a lovely country.
 
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Sophia said:
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I wasn’t aware it failed.
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In that case you could prove (positively)…
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I’ll consider this obvious deflection as a complete and total retreat from your stated position that “free will” has been shown to be a “miserable failure”.
Wise of you, in a back-handed and likely accidental sort of way.
I only said that the attempted solutions failed. What is there to prove?
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Failure.

Christ on his throne, when comparing non-empiricals, what does that even look like? What does confirmation look like?

As such, your position here is revealed to be nothing more than fanciful, unvetted, ideological hand-waving (at least, by empirical standards). At least I’m honest about mine…
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And also: (adjective) profoundly immoral and malevolent.
Since there is no proof of a “supernatural force”, it is just an empty definition. The expression “evil act” is rational. The expression “evil supernatural force” is - at best - a poetic phrase.
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I’m not denying it’s an adjective. You just apparently lacked the information that it’s also a noun.

At any rate - excellent! Please do provide us the appeal you send to Oxford to remove the word as a noun… as well as apparently any other word that represents a concept that hasn’t been materially proofed.

…Genuinely stupid standard. I don’t mean to be ugly. But good lord. Sit for a minute and really think about what you’re implying.
Since there is no common definition of “free will”, its absence is also undefined. But I will help you.
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As someone who didn’t know evil could be a noun until just now, I’ll pass on your “help”/attempt to frame the semantic.
And which one(s) did you find compelling?
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Obviously Will… (???) But it’s not necessarily exclusive of alternatives. For example, Aquinas’s privation is interesting too.
 
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You should go there some day. I can recommend places to see and foods to taste.
 
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