Reform of the Reform - St. Patrick's, Norcross, Georgia

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I know that Fr. Joseph Peek (an excellent priest, by the way) has been celebrating the 8:00 AM Sunday Latin OF since Fr. Hennessy’s unjust removal. I don’t know if that will continue or not with the schola director’s departure but it is at least possible that it will continue in some form and that kneeling at the altar rail at that mass might still be permitted.

In addition, I have been seeing that the EF has been celebrated some at St. Andrew’s in Roswell so that might be a possibility for you. The Una Voce of Georgia web site is a good resource for keeping up with the growing number of EF masses in the archdiocese: unavoceofga.blogspot.com/
 
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I know that Fr. Joseph Peek (an excellent priest, by the way) has been celebrating the 8:00 AM Sunday Latin OF since Fr. Hennessy’s unjust removal. I don’t know if that will continue or not with the schola director’s departure but it is at least possible that it will continue in some form and that kneeling at the altar rail at that mass might still be permitted.

In addition, I have been seeing that the EF has been celebrated some at St. Andrew’s in Roswell so that might be a possibility for you. The Una Voce of Georgia web site is a good resource for keeping up with the growing number of EF masses in the archdiocese: unavoceofga.blogspot.com/
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It is always permissible to kneel to receive communion. You can not be denied of this as it is the norm of the entire Church.

I have heard that there have been very well executed Masses at St. Peter Chanel in Roswell.
 
gte037p said:
It is always permissible to kneel to receive communion. You can not be denied of this as it is the norm of the entire Church.

I have heard that there have been very well executed Masses at St. Peter Chanel in Roswell.
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I completely agree with one qualification: You cannot licitly be denied communion! Unfortunately, some priests feel it is within their powers to take this into their own hands and refuse communion to those kneeling. In addition, it can be physically very difficult when there is no altar rail.

I had forgotten about St. Peter Chanel. In particular, any masses celebrated there by Fr. Tran or Fr. Atem should be very well executed.
 
Thank you so much, gte and formeratl–you don’t know how much your helpful suggestions mean to me…I’ll check those churches out. I had been meaning to ask about St. Peter Chanel…it looks good based on its website.

I’ve been spoiled…while visiting my daughter in Minneapolis, I found their church, St. Charles Borromeo, technically in St. Antony, but it’s a suburb. Back in the 70s, I understand they had a long-time pastor who looked at the changes and said basically, “we’re having none of that”. It’s awesome. Altar boys. One or two EMHC who come forward just in case they might be needed (at the mass I attended during Lent, I think one of them was not). It’s a very large church, so I was kind of near the back and couldn’t see for sure. I would love it if I could find a church like that near me.

Oh, and you’re right. I’d kneel to receive except for 2 things. One, I don’t want to stand out and be seen as showing off (plus the internal struggle over whether I would be, in fact, showing off or feeling superior) and mostly, my knees are kind of bad and if I knelt I’d never get up! To me, removing altar rails to force people to do something just seems cruel.

God bless you all!
 
Just to give an update on the situation at St. Patrick’s:

I have been informed by folks I know who still go there that the kneeling cushions were restored to the altar rail due to an outcry from parishioners. In spite of the resignation of the Schola director, Fr. Joseph Peek is still celebrating the 8:00 AM Sunday Mass as a Novus Ordo in Latin and kneeling for communion at the rail is being permitted without hindrance.

Deo Gratias!
 
Thank you so much for the update–I really appreciate that. Thank the Lord! Does anyone ever kneel at the other masses besides the one early one? I really liked it at that one mass there I attended a couple of years ago where people could kneel or stand, whichever they chose (some people being unable to kneel, also)…everyone just came up to the rail. That makes it good for everybody, IMHO. (It wasn’t an early mass, because I’m not an early riser and I’d be coming from kind of far away. But…I just might get up for this one if that’s the only one with kneeling!)

God bless!
 
I attended Mass at St. Andrew’s today in Roswell. I was given a flyer for the upcoming Eucharistic Youth Conference which will be held at St. Andrew’s Aug. 20-22. Fr. Bing from EWTN will be there. There will be a Eucharistic Procession, Latin Mass, Adoration, and Confession. Further information here: www.allianceoftwoheartsgeorgia.com

The Two Hearts Alliance is a great way to meet other Traditional Catholics. Pax Christi!
 
How wonderful! Thank you so much for the information. I’m not a youth, but maybe that’s still ok. Don’t count us older John Paul II Catholics out…even though I wasn’t Catholic yet when he became Pope (I converted in 2003), I think I even then considered him “my” Pope!

God bless!:blessyou:❤️
 
I guess I have to fight a spirit of bitterness, which is not good. It’s so amazing the next generation is coming to adore Christ in the Eucharist, that it’s only a cause for rejoicing for the whole Church. But since coming into the Church I’ve never felt so lonely. It’s hard to find people my age that like tradition and orthodoxy; the ones that are there are afraid to speak up, it seems. When I wanted to share my conversion experience, which is something we did all the time in my formerly protestant circles, people resent it and don’t want to hear it. Same goes if you say anything that someone doesn’t like. There’s so much grumpiness going around that I just keep quiet now and my soul is really suffering for it (not to mention my attitude!)

It just seems like everything “reform of the reform” is totally geared to the youth. Like this Adore conference–it’s for age 13-21. Shouldn’t these events be for all Catholics? (Yes, I know there was the Eucharistic Congress; I know I’m being inconsistent.) In fact everything seems divided into age groups. And I’m having a real hard time finding like minded people. There are so few young people in our parish, and the ones that are there are unavailable or hiding–I know how it is; it’s all by related interests; like if you’re young parents, you meet with other young parents, etc. Younger people sort of make you feel excluded–it’s just the way of things; I remember being that way too, as if older people were some other kind of being. I guess it all comes back to bite you! It’s just kind of hard to hear people online wish all the time that people my age would just die out. I know they’re expressing frustration, but it can’t help but hurt.

OK–I’ve vented now…thanks for hearing me out.🤷
 
Luvadoxi said:
I guess I have to fight a spirit of bitterness, which is not good. It’s so amazing the next generation is coming to adore Christ in the Eucharist, that it’s only a cause for rejoicing for the whole Church. But since coming into the Church I’ve never felt so lonely. It’s hard to find people my age that like tradition and orthodoxy; the ones that are there are afraid to speak up, it seems. When I wanted to share my conversion experience, which is something we did all the time in my formerly protestant circles, people resent it and don’t want to hear it. Same goes if you say anything that someone doesn’t like. There’s so much grumpiness going around that I just keep quiet now and my soul is really suffering for it (not to mention my attitude!)

It just seems like everything “reform of the reform” is totally geared to the youth. Like this Adore conference–it’s for age 13-21. Shouldn’t these events be for all Catholics? (Yes, I know there was the Eucharistic Congress; I know I’m being inconsistent.) In fact everything seems divided into age groups. And I’m having a real hard time finding like minded people. There are so few young people in our parish, and the ones that are there are unavailable or hiding–I know how it is; it’s all by related interests; like if you’re young parents, you meet with other young parents, etc. Younger people sort of make you feel excluded–it’s just the way of things; I remember being that way too, as if older people were some other kind of being. I guess it all comes back to bite you! It’s just kind of hard to hear people online wish all the time that people my age would just die out. I know they’re expressing frustration, but it can’t help but hurt.

OK–I’ve vented now…thanks for hearing me out.🤷
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I understand your frustration. I converted in 2007 and have experienced much of what you describe. I do know that the Alliance of Two Hearts is full of people who are my age (40ish) and older. Perhaps you should check it out. Are you in the Atlanta area? I’m discerning the Lay Carmelites. Our group is very orthodox. I’m fortunate to have met many like-minded Catholics over the past few years. We’re here…you just have to seek us out!

Did you attend the Eucharistic Congress? I thought it was amazing. I was also fortunate to attend a silent retreat a few weeks ago. It was led by an Opus Dei priest who knew St. Josemaria Escriva quite well. It was held at the Carmel Retreat Center in Hoschton, about an hour outside of Atlanta. These retreats are advertised in the Georgia Bulletin.

I’m also blessed to have a very traditional Catholic priest as a spiritual director. Feel free to PM me, if you’d like. I’d be happy to share his name with you.

Pax Christi
 
You’re quite welcome. I would check out St. Monica in Duluth. Fr. Durkin is awesome. Fr. Tran was just re-assigned there. They are two of the most orthodox priests I know. I like that the paten is used with Communion there. 🙂

There are some good things coming, we just have to be patient.
 
At_Trent said:
Prayers for Father Hennessy 👍
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AMEN to that!!!

In addition, I have found out that kneeling at the rail for communion is permitted at all of the masses that my contacts go to at least(Saturday vigil, 8,10 & 12 Sunday). Fr. Hennessy’s legacy continues!
 
I attended the 10:00 AM Mass this morning. Fr. Euteneuer spoke at all the Masses and was wonderful, what a blessing to hear him speak so unapologetically on faith and morals! Nearly everyone knelt for Holy Communion. 🙂
 
We need more priests like Father Hennessy to tell it like it is. “Like it is” is that ROMAN Catholicism is astoundingly beautiful and a great gift, especially when the teachings of the Magisterium are followed.
 
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We need more priests like Father Hennessy to tell it like it is. “Like it is” is that ROMAN Catholicism is astoundingly beautiful and a great gift, especially when the teachings of the Magisterium are followed.
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It is sad to see what has happened to St. Patrick’s since Father Hennessy left. The sense of community left with him, partly because the new priest failed to sympathize with the grieving parishoners and help us heal, and many scattered to other parishes, no longer feeling welcome at St. Patrick’s. I go to Mass there because, so far, the communion rail is still present and there is some Latin in some masses for those who prefer that to a full Latin Mass or no Latin at all. We need more priests like Father Hennesy who tell it like it is. “Like it is” is that ROMAN Catholicism is astoundingly beautiful, and a great gift, especially when the teaching of the Magesterium is followed faithfully.

God Bless us all, and Father Hennessy especially.:highprayer:
 
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