Refute this anti Catholic website.please

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Its full of sweeping generalization and cherry picked points.
 
DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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This book answers them all.

https://www.amazon.com/Catholicism-Fundamentalism-Karl-Keating-ebook/dp/B0037BVKEE
 
Pope Gregory was one of the earliest popes to make a concerted effort on defending the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. He even exercised this authority by excommunication John the Faster, Bishop of Constantinople, who made the claim.

John the Faster’s claim was the he (John) was the ONLY actual bishop. He claimed that there was only one, universal, real bishop and all others were just his agents. This is what Pope Gregory condemned. It’s Catholic teaching that all Bishops are real bishops, all are successors to the apostles, etc…
 
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DictatorCzar:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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This book answers them all.

Amazon.com
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If you have access to FORMED you may be able to read (or at least listen to it on audio) for free. I did that about a year ago.
 
Techno2000 said:
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DictatorCzar:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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This book answers them all.

Amazon.com
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This is the best resource. Sometimes it helps to ask how do Protestants respond? For instance, they DO venerate “statues” (flag). The great majority of Protestants DO have a Sunday Sabbath. They DO Not teach newborns have committed so sins.

They DO call as father their male parent, and often Geo Washington, for instance.
 
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DictatorCzar:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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This book answers them all.

Amazon.com
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This is the best resource. Sometimes it helps to ask how do Protestants respond? For instance, they DO venerate “statues” (flag). The great majority of Protestants DO have a Sunday Sabbath. They DO Not teach newborns have committed so sins.

They DO call as father their male parent, and often Geo Washington, for instance.
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Some twenty five years ago when my sister and husband quit the Church to become “fundamentalist” I got hold of this book and refuted every point they tried to make. Just recently her husband admitted to me that I was right…Lol.
 
5 is a question of terminology, not theology.

Re 6, Protestants will often refer to someone as being born again, and a Christian, at one point. Presumably they were then given assurance of salvation. But what if they later explicitly reject Christ, and do evil, with no repentance?

It would seem they are no longer Christian, and are no longer “saved”, unless they repent. But that means their initial assurance of salvation was conditional, affected by their subsequent actions. So not really assurance at all.
 
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Presumably they were then given assurance of salvation.
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Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed–not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence–continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

Philippians 2:12
 
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The pope Gregory quote confused me.
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As Wesrock mentioned above, the title “universal bishop” implied that said bishop was the only bishop with ordinary power, the rest being his vicars. Bishops, rather, received their authority from Christ–they are His delegates or vicars–which is why one bishop claiming that role for himself would be tantamount to being an antichrist.

For example in the same controversy, St. Gregory notes how the entire Church was committed to St. Peter’s care, but he was not the “universal Apostle.” The same is said of the bishop of Rome:

St. Gregory
For to all who know the Gospel it is apparent that by the Lord’s voice the care of the whole Church was committed to the holy Apostle and Prince of all the Apostles, Peter. For to him it is said, Peter, do you love Me? Feed My sheep John 21:17. To him it is said, Behold Satan has desired to sift you as wheat; and I have prayed for you, Peter, that your faith fail not. And thou, when you are converted, strengthen your brethren Luke 22:31. To him it is said, You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven and whatsoever you shall bind an earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed also in heaven Matthew 16:18.

Lo, he received the keys of the heavenly kingdom, and power to bind and loose is given him, the care and principality of the whole Church is committed to him, and yet he is not called the universal apostle; while the most holy man, my fellow priest John, attempts to be called universal bishop. I am compelled to cry out and say, O tempora, O mores!
CHURCH FATHERS: Registrum Epistolarum, Book V, Letter 20 (Gregory the Great)
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Later use in the Church of the term “universal” was not given this meaning, but expressed the successor of Peter’s pastoral responsibility for the whole Church (like St. Gregory said of St. Peter above)–an important part of that is defending the authority of his brother bishops. St. Gregory exemplified this.
 
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DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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The Bible teaches that we are not to bow down to statues.

We don’t worship statues. In the olden days people couldn’t read or write, this was a way of teaching people about the Bible and God.
 
DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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The Bible teaches that all have sinned except Jesus.
Romans 3:10-12, Hebrews 4:15
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that Mary was sinless.

 
DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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The Bible says that Jesus is the only mediator between man
and God. 1 Timothy 2:5
The Roman Catholic Church says Mary is co-mediator with
Christ.

 
Since you will be arguing with their ego instead of their intellect, you cannot win. The best refutation is to ignore them and pray that the Holy Spirit convicts them of their error.
 
DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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The Bible teaches that Christ offered His sacrifice on the
cross once and for all. Hebrews 7:27, 28; 10:10
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the priest sacrifices
Christ on the altar at mass.

Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church;
Colossians 1:24
 
DictatorCzar said:
So I looked at it.

http://afacts.convio.net/site/DocServer/Insertfinal.pdf?docID=322&autologin=true

The pope Gregory quote confused me. I don’t really know. The other stuff, I just got a little confused. I know there is Catholic answers, but it takes a lot of time to read and understand it. So could someone at least summarize each and everyone for me? I don’t have enough time.
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The Bible teaches that all Christians should know that they
have eternal life. 1 John 5:13
The Roman Catholic Church teaches that all Christians cannot
and should not know that they have eternal life.

But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
1 Corinthians 9:27

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed–not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence–continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,

Philippians 2:12
 
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