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Hi, before my wife got into the order of the white moon she was into Reiki. Are there christian or Catholic equivalents to Reiki? Awebsite christianreiki.org seems to say that Reiki is ok for Christians/catholics to practice. But I read somewhere else that it leads to other things, and my wife getting into the order of the white moon is proof of this. Just wanted to know or to have confirmation whether Reiki is ok or not? Since my wife is into that sort of thing there has to be some sort of catholic equivalent? perhaps?
 
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Hi, before my wife got into the order of the white moon she was into Reiki. Are there christian or Catholic equivalents to Reiki? Awebsite christianreiki.org seems to say that Reiki is ok for Christians/catholics to practice. But I read somewhere else that it leads to other things, and my wife getting into the order of the white moon is proof of this. Just wanted to know or to have confirmation whether Reiki is ok or not? Since my wife is into that sort of thing there has to be some sort of catholic equivalent? perhaps?
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Here is soemthing fromThis Rock (slide down to the 4th question).

There was also this.

I’m sorry your wife in being led astray into the Order of the White Moon. I will pray for you both.
 
Hello,
Since my wife is into Reiki, I want to know if there is a catholic equivalent to some kind of healing energy that my wife could get into? Perhaps the Christian/catholic mystics which I know next to nothing about I only heard of them…Also, how can I address the role of women in the church and her belief that since priests are the leaders and bishops and the pope and such that women are just as important as men are? She also held and may even still hold the idea that God is not loving that he gets angry quick and is vengeful and will send you to hell on a dime! I myself think that she was given lots of isinformation by people in the Nazarine church if not by the nazarine branch itself.
 
Hello, I told you before on this forum that my wife is into Reiki and has recently joined the order of the white moon. She also mentions to me on occasion that she can feel or sense certain energy types, such as the frequencies put out by our wireless router. I said i was interested in learning because when I go to colorado it may help me know where wireless hotspots are at that I can use with my laptop when I save the money to buy one. So she gave me a book on Reiki and I took a quick skim over it. I don’t agree with their statement that there’s only a universal energy force, if this is so then we should not exist because how can something that is nothing more than well some energy going around all over the place create the universe without intelligence and conscience? So I stopped reading up to that point and will delete the book off my computer since it sounds like rubbish anyway. Back to her ability or seeming ability to sense energy types such as wireless frequencies. She said she was able to shortly after getting into Reiki. But if it’s true that people have the potential to learn to detect such subtle things as wireless signal frequencies, is it possible to learn to do such things without using Reiki? Or perhaps she is lead to believe by the enemy she can sense such things when it really isn’t? so if it’s possible to learn to notice such things with God’s help how can this be done if at all?

Josh
 
I feel frequencies all the time. It’s just a physical sensitivity. I think God gives us senses to appreciate beauty, discern facts and dodge hazards. EMFs are one of the hazards we live with now.
 
While Reiki is spiritual in nature, it is not a religion. It has no dogma, and there is nothing you must believe in order to learn and use Reiki. In fact, Reiki is not dependent on belief at all and will work whether you believe in it or not. Because Reiki comes from God, many people find that using Reiki puts them more in touch with the experience of their religion rather than having only an intellectual concept of it.
reiki.org/faq/WhatIsReiki.html

They teach this stuff at Alternative medicine school. It’s in the same group as acupuncture. Last time I checked, the Catholic church is not in the business of medicine. It’s just a form of Meditation, psychotherapy or yoga. Reiki is a Japanese practice but the Japanese religion is Shinto or Buddhism. If you ask a Japanese person if Reiki is a religion, they will tell you no. There are no gods or prayers or anything like that. That’s like saying Kung fu is a religion. I think perhaps because you’re a westerner and the practice of medicine in the west always states that the mind and body should be treated seperately. Easterners do not practice medicine like that. They believe that instead of pills or surgery, a person should pursue balance in one’s lifestyle through eating well, exercise and prayer.
I was in Japan for awhile and the nice thing is that people there have a deep understanding of people’s need to be spiritual regardless of what faith you choose. If you explain to a Japanese person that you are not Buddhist or shinto but Christian, They have nothing negative to say(this wasn’t always true as christianity was a gaijin practice and punishible by death). even though Christians are not the norm, they have utmost respect for Christianity, or at least they think it’s “cool”.
At the same time Japanese people are not as deep in their own spirtuality as they used to be. They’re subject to the same materialism that we experience in the west. It’s not that they don’t believe in God at all, it’s just, they’re lives have taken a more materialistic route, which is pretty much the same as us.

Now if your wife starts worshipping rock kami and and moon kami and Neko kami. then perhaps that’s another issue. I think in Japan, everyone believes in God in a more isolated way. Meaning, they rarely congregate to worship. So they all have different ideas of what God is. They don’t have things like this where they talk about all the rules and morals to live by. They have traditions that many people follow, but it really differs from person to person.
 
Hello,
You said you can feel frequencies? but I cannot. Is this something you learned? Is there a prayer I could say to ask Jesus to teach me how to feel frequencies? What do they feel like anyway?

Josh
 
Hi again, my wife is very much into Reiki the part where you send energy supposedly to people to heal them. Her sister’s husband’s mom got a Reiki treatment and said it made her feel lots better. But if Reiki has no basis in Christ then how can it work? Also is there a catholic equivalent that my wife could get into, that is Christ based?

Josh
 
Have you heard of the 60watt buzz?

I always sit up or turn right before a phone rings. It’s not a freaky thing; I just figure that on some level I can hear it.

Our brains are naturally wired so that 80% of the cells serve vision. Some people, for many different reasons, have a different allocation, giving other senses abilities we normal people consider strange or extraordinary. Take, for example, the blind. Their brain cells actually adapt from visual to auditory processing.
 
yeah we had interference with our wireless router too, and would get dumped of internet and lose phone service all the time, but did not need reiki to solve it, called the phone company they explained the problem and we got plug-ins for the TV and wireless phones on power strips that stop the interference. problems solved by technology not wizardry. my sister’s new cat’s fur stands on end whenever her cell phone is about to ring, but he is not Japanese, part Siamese I think.
 
My youth group and church environment is very much into the Charismatic movements, praying over people and the like. We had a prayer session once where a woman brought up a study that proved that when people are prayed over, the body actually releases healing things (I don’t know what you call it!). I don’t know of the study and haven’t researched it or anything, but I do believe that the Holy Spirit can work through people to heal others, deliver messages, and bring healing in spiritual, emotional, and physical ways.

But I don’t know how one would explain something like the Reiki thing you’re talking about. Sometimes it is possible to experience things that one thinks are good, from evil forces. Things like Ouji boards, Tarot card readings and the like enlist the help of dark forces that are not of God, and require putting one’s faith in something removed from God. People sometimes think that this is good or helpful but really it is bad.

I guess someone who is more experienced with matters like this could be able to offer more advice. Maybe you should talk to a priest, particularly one who has experience with healing prayer.
 
Hello Naztakuan
and all ,

But then why does the Reiki book say that there’s only a universal energy? Wait a moment. The source is God/Christ, right? Also, the order of the white moon www.orderwhitemoon.org . believes in contacting spirits and things. Can someone look at that website, www.orderwhitemoon.org and give your opinion on it? It seems to be a religion. So do eastern catholics practice Reiki? What other things do Eastern catholics do that we in the west do not do or may be mistaken about? I want to know.

Josh
 
Hi, yes you’re right. I guess that’s why I have the text to speech in my screen reader turned up to speak really really fast. It’s also better to use synthetic computer generated speech rather than human speech when working, human speech as in nuance text to speech or neospeech because synthetic speech i can make it talk really fast and read things really quick and understand what I read. As far as my wife getting into the order of the white moon, and if this is a bad thing, I don’t have a physical rosary but I can pray silently along with them on EWTN during the day while I play with my one-year old son. or maybe I can get a rosary mp3 somewhere. I wish my wife had not grown up in such a fundamentalist home but we can’t change how we were raised, good or bad. So I’ll help her as she is now to the best of my ability. And I think this includes getting into the Colorado national federation of the blind training center to improve skills that I lack, sure I’ll miss nearly 8 months of my first child’s life but it will be worth it in the long run I think.

Josh
 
Hi, yes I’ll do that next month or so when I get out to Colorado NFB center and when I get better travel skills so that way I can actually get to a church. I’m gunna call Jim Antanachi, NFB president of Pennsylvania next week at the beginning and see how things are going as far as making the VR agency pay for me to go there. Right now they are throwing up all kinds of roadblocks. It’s almost as though they want to keep me from being as independent as possible. by independent I mean being able to have a job, and take care of my family! It seems like VR says they want us blind people in Pennsylvania to be independent but they don’t mean what they say. Well I guess that’s how some agencies are? But I have a feeling I’ll get there. if I don’t go there and get the training I need I don’t know when I will be able to get back to church.
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My youth group and church environment is very much into the Charismatic movements, praying over people and the like. We had a prayer session once where a woman brought up a study that proved that when people are prayed over, the body actually releases healing things (I don’t know what you call it!). I don’t know of the study and haven’t researched it or anything, but I do believe that the Holy Spirit can work through people to heal others, deliver messages, and bring healing in spiritual, emotional, and physical ways.

But I don’t know how one would explain something like the Reiki thing you’re talking about. Sometimes it is possible to experience things that one thinks are good, from evil forces. Things like Ouji boards, Tarot card readings and the like enlist the help of dark forces that are not of God, and require putting one’s faith in something removed from God. People sometimes think that this is good or helpful but really it is bad.

I guess someone who is more experienced with matters like this could be able to offer more advice. Maybe you should talk to a priest, particularly one who has experience with healing prayer.
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It sounds like magic, which is not something you should associate with. We have a way to obtain healing in the Church, too - some might have the gift of healing, but the ordinary mode is prayer.
 
I knew a woman who converted into Catholicism. She thought she could practice both reiki and be a Christian.
In the end she was so bound up in spiritism - communicating with different “masters” from the other side - that she thought she knew better than the whole Church combined and she soon fell away from (the real) Christ. She never comes to mass anymore and I think today she still practices these things …

I’d say: run away from this as fast as you can. The new age spirit is one of the most subtle evils that are infiltrating the Church today… especially in Europe…

I’d strongly recommend you and your wife read paragraph 2116 in the Catechism and the sorrounding passages too.

We know that idolatry in any shape or form was condemned by the first Christians. Placing your hope and trust in unchristian methods and forces is extremely dangerous.
I have heard many testimonies about people who were bound by evil spirits - I heard an eye witness testimony about a woman who could walk aross a river in the air and a man who was possessed who ran as fast as a lion next to a missionary’s car… I was told about people who lost a fortune over night because they accepted Christ as their Lord and told the spirits they had been bound by to dissapear in His name… These evil spirits were providing worldly riches, health and powers to people for a time, but they also robbed their souls and left them in utmost darkness removed from Christ until they broke down mentally and physically. I have seen a few people while they were being set free after they had been playing around with new age, TM, healing etc…
and exorcisms are very scary but helpful to see as a warning.

You can not deal with spiritual forces, control them and expect them to stay outside of you … they WILL end up dominating you.

Christ is the only Truth. Fix your eyes solely on Him.

Peace be with you and your wife.
 
Hello,
Since my wife is into Reiki, I want to know if there is a catholic equivalent to some kind of healing energy that my wife could get into? Perhaps the Christian/catholic mystics which I know next to nothing about I only heard of them…Also, how can I address the role of women in the church and her belief that since priests are the leaders and bishops and the pope and such that women are just as important as men are? She also held and may even still hold the idea that God is not loving that he gets angry quick and is vengeful and will send you to hell on a dime! I myself think that she was given lots of isinformation by people in the Nazarine church if not by the nazarine branch itself.

Hello,
If I were you I would run from any Reiki or “energy” healing system. The mystics may have performed miracles, but certainly not as some kind of trick or a “technique” for their personal benefit. It sounds like your intentions are very similar to those of Simon the Magician (Acts of the Apostles). All true miracles are works of God, not due to any mastery of energy or such like.

As to the notion that God is always angry and vengeful, perhaps your wife would like to read Exodus 34:5-7. In this amazing passage the Lord reveals His name to Moses, and it has nothing to do with vengeance!

How about the Virgin Mary as an important person in the Church?
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Yours in Jesus and Mary
 
jkenn337 said:
Hello,
Since my wife is into Reiki, I want to know if there is a catholic equivalent to some kind of healing energy that my wife could get into? Thank goodness there is no such thing! Now, alternatives in woship, prayer and practice? Sure. Do some research. There’s everything from the Extraordinary Form to Charismatic Catholics to Opus Dei (not what a lot of people think) to the Neocatechumate Way to the Apostelship of Prayer to Rosary Army to the Legion of Mary to the Blue Army. You know your wife’s age, her mental condition, her likes and dislikes. With as little information as you’ve provided, I think she might do well in a charistmatic prayer group. But you know her best, or should. Google “apostlate” and see what you get. Perhaps the Christian/catholic mystics which I know next to nothing about I only heard of them…Also, how can I address the role of women in the church and her belief that since priests are the leaders and bishops and the pope and such that women are just as important as men are? Just as men cannot be mommies, even in her New Age thinking, so women cannot be daddies. Start there. She also held and may even still hold the idea that God is not loving that he gets angry quick and is vengeful and will send you to hell on a dime! And yet this vengeful God sent his Son to die for all of us so that we might be forgiven our sins, as well as to set an example of how to be loving? Yeh, way vengeful there. :rolleyes: I myself think that she was given lots of isinformation by people in the Nazarine church if not by the nazarine branch itself. Maybe. They are not always a happy bunch, depending on who leads, as they are pretty autonomous. But they are hardly New Agers.
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jkenn337 said:
Hello Naztakuan
and all ,

But then why does the Reiki book say that there’s only a universal energy? Wait a moment. The source is God/Christ, right? Also, the order of the white moon www.orderwhitemoon.org . believes in contacting spirits and things. Can someone look at that website, www.orderwhitemoon.org and give your opinion on it? I did. In a word, it looks very New Age, and completely contrary to the Catholic Faith. It seems to be a religion. So do eastern catholics practice Reiki? You are very confused, or I am not understanding you. Eastern Catholics do not practice New Age anything. They are Catholic in every way, and believe the same way we do. When we say “Eastern” or “Oriental” we don’t mean New Age. Here are some web sites that better explain the differences:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Catholic_Churches
byzantinecatholic.com/
armeniancatholic.org/
armeniancatholic.org/inside.php?lang=en&page_id=30401
armeniancatholic.org.au/links.html
romaniancatholic.org/
stgeorgeaurora.org/
melkite.net/
stgeorgesa.org/
stthomasdiocese.org/
I also highly recommend our own Eastern Catholic Forum here on CAF. What other things do Eastern catholics do that we in the west do not do or may be mistaken about? I want to know.

Josh
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