Blaise, you laid things out so clearly in the above post. Can you see a pattern here? You’ve known her 6 mos. and all of this has happened in that amount of time? She went on a date when you thought you were exclusive or more serious, and lied about it; she keeps seeing ex-boyfriends and wistfully reminiscing, and lies about it; she has a drinking problem, and flirts when drunk; she isn’t sure if she ever loved her ex-husband, then changes her mind.
If your best friend told you he was seeing someone with all of those things going on, what would you tell him?
I’ve read through and agree here and with Promethius. The OP should take heed.
First, I noted that he was only seeing the woman one month when she had a “date” with someone else. Was there a commitment to be exclusive after one month because I see nothing wrong with chastely going on a date when one has only seen a person for a single month? I would not consider one month to be an understanding to be exclusive, nor is it enough time to discern whether one should be dating exclusively (but chastely). Too much is made of this one date.
I would ask if his expectations are too great. I would also ask if she’s on the same page as he is in this relationship.
Second, what concerns me is the previous need for alcohol to “loosen up.” This may be indicative of a greater problem having to do with self-esteem and the use of alcohol. Obviously, one drink is too many and no amount is enough. This describes binge drinking. where the person can go for long periods without alcohol, until they take that first drink and the result always winds up in being drunk.
I’m sorry to hear he has already introduced this woman to his children. If this does not work out, the children will have another woman disappear from their lives.
Dating is a process of discernment. All it does is help you, initially, discern whether you want a second date – then a third and so on until you come to some conclusion, as a progression. Or you break up. We don’t marry every one we date.
I’m not convinced that she’s great with his children. At 6 months we are all still on our best behavior – and either his expectations about her past are too high or she’s starting to show problems with her character. This is not enough evidence that she will be a good mother to these children. It’s too soon to tell. This is why we never introduce someone to our children until we are more certain of the other person – and he has trust issues.
I would have said that that date happened 5 months ago; let it go. But, it’s too soon to decide to be exclusive because I don’t think she’s thinking “exclusive.” Then there’s the issue of changing her number, then giving it to an old b/f and then asking him not to call. She sounds unsure of what she wants to do.
Last, the OP cannot just “accept her as she is” because there are 3 children involved who have no control over this relationship. Once children are involved, it’s not about him any longer and what he wants or what she wants. It’s about providing the best solution for the children.
Slow down, don’t read anyone’s e-mails and get a little perspective. What are his needs and why the trust issues or the need to check up on everything wanting full disclosure for something that happened so early after they met such as that “date” one month after meeting? I would suggest he also be open to dating should he meet a woman he might be interested in as well. Just dating.
I’m assuming that the woman’s marriage will be found to be null as it was not dispensed.