Religion: No Hooters shirts in Mass, please

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Religion: No Hooters shirts in Mass, please

By TERRY MATTINGLY - Scripps Howard News Service

Deacon Greg Kandra was well aware that modern Americans were getting more casual and that these laid-back attitudes were filtering into Catholic pews.

Still, was that woman who was approaching the altar to receive Holy Communion really wearing a Hooters shirt?

Yes, she was.

When did Catholics, he thought to himself, start coming to Mass dressed for a Britney Spears concert? Had he missed a memo or something?

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I can accept fairly casual dress at mass; but I think everyone, barring an extreme situation, shold wear neat clothes in good repair. No super-revealing clothes or advertising for questionable products or places should be allowed. Beer advertisements, suggestive phrases or pictures and drug related shirts should definitely be avoided.

I don’t expect suits and ties, hats and high heels. We hardly wear those in our lives outside church in some places. I know lots of people who have had to go out and buy special clothes when this kind of attire is required, but nearly everyone can come up with clean clothes in good repair.
 
No hooters shirts in Mass, Please!:o How tragic! And if this happen during a sunday Mass.ouch!
 
At the height of the war protestor frenzy (funny how that disappeared with Obama’s election), I saw some woman in church with her daughter of about 12 years old. The kid was wearing a long tee shirt with six inch letters: MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR!

I’ll be that kid is pregnant by now, and her mother doesn’t have a clue how it happened.
 
Maybe she was with the guy in our church wearing the JIM BEAN tee also at Mass. Or the guy who wore the cap into Mass and finally an usher had the courage to tell him to remove it.

Ever watch SAY YES TO THE DRESS ? Plunging necklines, and no sleeves on a wedding dress. And the corset wedding gown that looks like a Maidenform ad with a long billowing gown. I cringe everytime I hear them say that the wedding will be in a Catholic Church. Even the male host of the show has remarked that some gowns are rather risque for that. Maybe the priests should follow his example and ban some of these outrageous outfits.
 
I can accept fairly casual dress at mass;
I don’t. A lot of our posters don’t like Obama, but how many of them would dress as casually to a meeting with him at the White House as they already do at Mass. Unless, of course, they don’t really believe that Our Lord is present in our churches.
but I think everyone, barring an extreme situation, shold wear neat clothes in good repair.
You set the bar too low.
I don’t expect suits and ties, hats and high heels.
I come close to demanding that.
We hardly wear those in our lives outside church in some places.
I work for a living as an attorney, and God forbid I show up in court dressed as though I were going to a cock or dog fight.
I know lots of people who have had to go out and buy special clothes when this kind of attire is required, but nearly everyone can come up with clean clothes in good repair.
Everyone, but everyone, can have at least one set of “Sunday-going-to-meeting” clothes.
 
I don’t. A lot of our posters don’t like Obama, but how many of them would dress as casually to a meeting with him at the White House as they already do at Mass. Unless, of course, they don’t really believe that Our Lord is present in our churches.

You set the bar too low.

I come close to demanding that.

I work for a living as an attorney, and God forbid I show up in court dressed as though I were going to a cock or dog fight.

Everyone, but everyone, can have at least one set of “Sunday-going-to-meeting” clothes.
Well said. 👍
 
Maybe the priests should follow his example and ban some of these outrageous outfits.
I wondered, from the article, whether some kind of dress code would be mentioned. But apparently not. Deacon Kandra (who, of course, writes a popular blog called The Deacon’s Bench) mentioned using humor to get people to dress better. But I wonder if that works in the long run? I searched his blog’s website but found no mention of the matter.
 
I don’t. A lot of our posters don’t like Obama, but how many of them would dress as casually to a meeting with him at the White House as they already do at Mass…Everyone, but everyone, can have at least one set of “Sunday-going-to-meeting” clothes.
I agree. Interestingly, very recently the SF Giants visited the White House, per the tradition of last season’s Pennant winners, annually. They were told they had to wear suits. I believe it was Ephinger, a new team member, who didn’t own one. What did he do? He borrowed one. Problem solved. Everyone was able to show up and meet the Prez in appropriate attire.

…and if for some reason you ‘needed’ to visit the WH, or any other formal setting, weekly, you would tire of borrowing (and so would your loaners), and you would purchase one outfit.
 
Even I don’t wear Hooters shirts to mass. Ramones, Pearl Jam, Dead Kennedys-that’s another story.
 
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I work for a living as an attorney, and God forbid I show up in court dressed as though I were going to a cock or dog fight.

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LOL! For some reason this made me laugh like crazy. I can picture a cockfight in the middle of church! Quick! I bet on the red one!
 
At the height of the war protestor frenzy (funny how that disappeared with Obama’s election),
Actually, the height of the war protestor frenzy was against the Vietnam War - I remember it well - and it disappeared after the U.S. pullout from the RVN, not 35 years later.
 
I work for a living as an attorney, and God forbid I show up in court dressed as though I were going to a cock or dog fight.

Everyone, but everyone, can have at least one set of “Sunday-going-to-meeting” clothes.
I completely agree with this. People figure Jesus loves them as they are. That’s true. So do your parents. It doesn’t mean a little effort isn’t appreciated.

The best comment I ever heard about proper Mass attire came from a priest discussing the matter with college students. He said, “Many fancy restaurants are jacket-required and you’d have no problem dressing up to eat there. Well, guess what? The Eucharist is the fanciest meal you’re ever going to eat!”
 
Actually, the height of the war protestor frenzy was against the Vietnam War - I remember it well - and it disappeared after the U.S. pullout from the RVN, not 35 years later.
Honest question-I thought they dissapeared after the draft ended?

(I’m not sure, so don’t scream at me if I’m wrong-I’m asking a question, not making a statement :o)
 
I don’t. A lot of our posters don’t like Obama, but how many of them would dress as casually to a meeting with him at the White House as they already do at Mass. Unless, of course, they don’t really believe that Our Lord is present in our churches.

You set the bar too low.

I come close to demanding that.

I work for a living as an attorney, and God forbid I show up in court dressed as though I were going to a cock or dog fight.

Everyone, but everyone, can have at least one set of “Sunday-going-to-meeting” clothes.
First off, you have a point. There are those among us who pay no heed to their appearance whatsoever before going to Mass. I’m especially appalled at the revealing attire that our teenage girls are allowed to wear – have their father’s forgotten how hard it is to keep a chaste mind at that age? Think of all the young guys (and some of us slightly older gentlemen) that are being distracted!

It seems to me, though, that we are leaning a bit too close to the judgmental side of things. When we see someone dressed inappropriately in Mass, do we automatically assume that “they MUST have nicer clothes than THAT,” or do we hesitate in our judgment? Some people (yes, even in this country, believe it or not), are poor, homeless, or maybe they’re just on vacation and forgot to pack their Sunday best.

When I attend Mass, I generally wear khaki shorts, a polo, and flip flops (I believe our Savior’s traditional attire was a tunic, a cloak, and thong sandals). I come before the Lord our God, who does not judge us on our outer appearance but peers into our very souls to determine our station with Him. I believe that as long as I’m not “showing too much skin” and my clothing doesn’t have inappropriate images, that I am well within my rights to dress however I want.

If I were going to the White House to meet Obama, I would wear my nicest clothes. If I were going to a rally at a local goverment office to hear him speak and meet him, I’d wear khaki shorts, a polo, and flip-flops (Joe the Plumber-esque, if you will). Likewise, if I were going to the Cathedral here in town for Mass, I’m putting on my best duds. When I attend my local parish, however, I wear more comfortable clothing.

Instead of demanding that others dress in a manner that WE deem appropriate, why do we not demand of ourselves (as God does) that we be slow to judgment and that we first remove the plank from our own eye [Matthew 7:5] before we condemn another?

I, myself, am guilty of this same thing: I once attended Mass in St. Louis, MO, on vacation. I sat right behind a guy who was dressed downright terribly. My first thought was that this guy went out partying last night, woke up this morning with a hangover in those same clothes, and went right to Mass. I was disgusted. It turned out THE GUY WAS HOMELESS. Yeah, I felt bad.

So, yes, I agree that we need a return to modesty and decency in our society and within our Church; let us also agree to take pause to examine ourselves so that we don’t become like the Jewish teachers Jesus speaks of in Mark 12:38:

"As he taught, Jesus said, “Watch out for the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and be greeted in the marketplaces”
 
It seems to me, though, that we are leaning a bit too close to the judgmental side of things. When we see someone dressed inappropriately in Mass, do we automatically assume that “they MUST have nicer clothes than THAT,” or do we hesitate in our judgment? Some people (yes, even in this country, believe it or not), are poor, homeless, or maybe they’re just on vacation and forgot to pack their Sunday best.
Okay for being homeless or desperately poor, but on vacation and forgot to pack “Sunday” clothes? Nonsense. What is there to packing a summer weight dress shirt and slacks or a summerweight dress or skirt and blouse?
When I attend Mass, I generally wear khaki shorts, a polo, and flip flops (I believe our Savior’s traditional attire was a tunic, a cloak, and thong sandals).
He wasn’t attending Mass.
I come before the Lord our God, who does not judge us on our outer appearance but peers into our very souls to determine our station with Him. I believe that as long as I’m not “showing too much skin” and my clothing doesn’t have inappropriate images, that I am well within my rights to dress however I want.
If God doesn’t judge our outer appearance, it won’t matter if you come to Mass with pants hanging down below “the crack” or if a woman comes bra-less where you can see it all from the side.
If I were going to the White House to meet Obama, I would wear my nicest clothes.
So why not your nicest clothes at the house of the Lord?
Likewise, if I were going to the Cathedral here in town for Mass, I’m putting on my best duds. When I attend my local parish, however, I wear more comfortable clothing.
What’s the difference?
So, yes, I agree that we need a return to modesty and decency in our society and within our Church; let us also agree to take pause to examine ourselves so that we don’t become like the Jewish teachers Jesus speaks of in Mark 12:38:
"As he taught, Jesus said, “Watch out for the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and be greeted in the marketplaces”
Funny, but 40 years ago, in my youth, no one had your cavalier attitude about church. Dress one way for church, another way for casual matters. 🤷
 
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