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Of course, my point was that what is written and what is followed can be two different things. I’m actually agreeing with you.
You are not agreeing with me. If I may be so bold as to speak for MYSELF and not you for me.

TELL me more about how Catholics view the OT Valke2.

I am so intent on hearing your version.

I might as well tell you how you should see your books.
 
You’re wrong. The Church adopts the “OT” as part of its scripture. It calls for the death of those who practice idolatry. Now you will rightly say the Church does not follow that. But it is in your holy book.

How is that different from a muslim responding that the way a passage is written is not the way it is followed?
You are Wrong again Valke2.

Its not a matter of Catholics “not follow that” (what is in our Holy Book)

It is a matter of knowing that Jesus fufilled the law.

Jesus did not abolish the OT.

He fufiled it and then some.

Jews and Muslims do not understand that and I respect their religions.
Yet, I am a Catholic. Dont tell me what I am to follow and not follow.

You have no right. Just as I have no right to tell you what to follow.

Or Pro.

I have never been anything but respectful to the Jewish people in my entire life.

YOU are making me re-think my position.
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Valke 2 -

Its different for a Muslum cuz they dont have an old law and a new law.

Neither do you.

We do as Catholics.

You know that.

Yet you say silly things that seem to align yourself with muslams against us.

Great.

I hope to spread the truth of your position (as I have copied your damning posts) to the Christian community that supports Israel’s cause.

I dont think they know the truth about how Jewish people REALLY think.

They better wise up.

Laughing all the way to the bank.

We’ll see about that one.
 
You are Wrong again Valke2.

Its not a matter of Catholics “not follow that” (what is in our Holy Book)

It is a matter of knowing that Jesus fufilled the law.

Jesus did not abolish the OT.

He fufiled it and then some.

Jews and Muslims do not understand that and I respect their religions.
Yet, I am a Catholic. Dont tell me what I am to follow and not follow.

You have no right. Just as I have no right to tell you what to follow.

Or Pro.

I have never been anything but respectful to the Jewish people in my entire life.

YOU are making me re-think my position.
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I am not telling you what to follow. I’m pointing out that when someone criticizes a muslim because the Koran says one thing and the muslims says it is not meant to be taken literally, they are doing just what you are taking offense at.
 
Valke 2 -

Its different for a Muslum cuz they dont have an old law and a new law.

Neither do you.

We do as Catholics.

You know that.

Yet you say silly things that seem to align yourself with muslams against us.

Great.

I hope to spread the truth of your position (as I have copied your damning posts) to the Christian community that supports Israel’s cause.

I dont think they know the truth about how Jewish people REALLY think.

They better wise up.

Laughing all the way to the bank.

We’ll see about that one.
I’m aligning myself with posts that do not seek to tear other religions down. My only point is that you can’t judge a religion simply by what its scripture says. Because it is subject to a high degree of interpertation. Just as I wouldn’t necessarily judge a Christian or jew by a passage in Leviticus, I don’t think it is fair to judge a muslim by quote specific passages in the Koran when we do not understand the context or how that verse is actually interpeted by most muslims.
 
You are not agreeing with me. If I may be so bold as to speak for MYSELF and not you for me.

TELL me more about how Catholics view the OT Valke2.

I am so intent on hearing your version.

I might as well tell you how you should see your books.
I don’t know how Catholics view the “OT”. THat’s my point. I wouldn’t presume to tell you how to view it as a Catholic. Again, you are saying the same thing I’m saying. I wouldn’t presume to tell you how to read your scriptures, and I think its wrong when someone presumes to tell me how to read mine. My original post was in reply to a post that was telling a muslim what their Koran teaches.
 
I am not telling you what to follow. I’m pointing out that when someone criticizes a muslim because the Koran says one thing and the muslims says it is not meant to be taken literally, they are doing just what you are taking offense at.
Do you even realize that you can not determine what parts of the Koran are literal and what parts are not?

Pot calling the kettle black.

I let Pro explain, but if he does not or can not–

I think you are intelligent enough to see what we can conclude from that.

No?
 
I don’t know how Catholics view the “OT”. THat’s my point. I wouldn’t presume to tell you how to view it as a Catholic. Again, you are saying the same thing I’m saying. I wouldn’t presume to tell you how to read your scriptures, and I think its wrong when someone presumes to tell me how to read mine. My original post was in reply to a post that was telling a muslim what their Koran teaches.
Once again, have you seen a credible response from the Muslams here?
 
Do you even realize that you can not determine what parts of the Koran are literal and what parts are not?

Pot calling the kettle black.

I let Pro explain, but if he does not or can not–

I think you are intelligent enough to see what we can conclude from that.

No?
Yes, I realize that. Again, you are agreeing with me.
 
I’m aligning myself with posts that do not seek to tear other religions down. My only point is that you can’t judge a religion simply by what its scripture says. Because it is subject to a high degree of interpertation. Just as I wouldn’t necessarily judge a Christian or jew by a passage in Leviticus, I don’t think it is fair to judge a muslim by quote specific passages in the Koran when we do not understand the context or how that verse is actually interpeted by most muslims.
No one has the power to tear any religion down. The religion itself does that on its own.

PS- your argument is flawed at the start. This is not about the Koran.
 
I’m aligning myself with posts that do not seek to tear other religions down. My only point is that you can’t judge a religion simply by what its scripture says. Because it is subject to a high degree of interpertation. Just as I wouldn’t necessarily judge a Christian or jew by a passage in Leviticus, I don’t think it is fair to judge a muslim by quote specific passages in the Koran when we do not understand the context or how that verse is actually interpeted by most muslims.
Leviticus is not in the NT.

Go ahead. Make my day.

Find something in the NT.

I await your response.
 
No one has the power to tear any religion down. The religion itself does that on its own.

PS- your argument is flawed at the start. This is not about the Koran.
it isn’t? The post I was replying to stated “I can name at least two passages in the Koran…”

That sounds like it was about he Koran to me.
 
it isn’t? The post I was replying to stated “I can name at least two passages in the Koran…”

That sounds like it was about he Koran to me.
Valke2- this thread is not about the Koran.

Nice try.

I am still going to spread the word on your opinons.

People need to wake up.

I did reading your posts.
 
Valke2- this thread is not about the Koran.

Nice try.

I am still going to spread the word on your opinons.

People need to wake up.

I did reading your posts.
You have issues. GO back and read the posts and then you can apologize to me. I"ll be here.
 
No unfortunately. You’d have to provide a definitive piece of information that shows where in Catholic doctrine it teaches that a Catholic can be put to death for leaving the faith.

You won’t be able to do that. However, I can point out at least two verses in your Holy book that advocate the killing of “unbelievers”. Now, you may say that these verses are misinterpreted, and if so, that points to another problem.

Regardless of what pope says what, there is still a central teaching and authority within the Church that will never change. A Catholic can always know what the truth is regardless of what another Catholic says.

I don’t think you can say the same for Islam, and until there are more Muslim voices denouncing violence than are advocating it, Islam will ever be defined by this “fringe” element. And that means the ball is in your court. But I’m sure you’ve heard this all before. 🙂
I’ll make it easy for you Damscus. This is the post I was replying to.
 
I bet Pro is getting a good laugh out of this one. I am too.

Pro, why in the world cant Catholics get along with Muslims?

I think Muslims and Catholics should get along better.

Valke2 is making me see the light on that one.
 
Valke2- this thread is not about the Koran.

Nice try.

I am still going to spread the word on your opinons.

People need to wake up.

I did reading your posts.
go ahead. Knock yourself out. Scream it from the rooftops.
 
go ahead. Knock yourself out. Scream it from the rooftops.
Well, my money wont be going there anymore that is for sure.

And if you dont care that is fine. I will save that post too. You dont care if your fellows in your homeland get financial aid.

IMHO they dont even need it.
 
Well, my money wont be going there anymore that is for sure.

And if you dont care that is fine. I will save that post too. You dont care if your fellows in your homeland get financial aid.

IMHO they dont even need it.
LoL. I’m sure I had a real effect on your “charitable nature.” Save all my posts. I always stand by what I say and if I say something wrong, I have no problem apologizing for it. Make yourself a valke scarp book.
 
LoL. I’m sure I had a real effect on your “charitable nature.” Save all my posts. I always stand by what I say and if I say something wrong, I have no problem apologizing for it. Make yourself a valke scarp book.
My charitable efforts were in my mind a vote against Islam which I will do what I can to stop.

Now, I see Islam might be a good thing. In some ways.
 
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