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[Freddy]

Freddy:

And as regards what the teacher thinks, then that is a specific matter that one would take up with the person him/herself or the school. If you thought the teacher was out of line.

Naive again Fred. How would the teacher be “out of line” to be perfectly happy with what the state has legislated, notwithstanding its unacceptability to many?

A teacher’s personal view on the morality of any situation and whether it’s acceptable to you or not for him or her to pass that on your child is a matter entirely for you.

 

[Freddy]

Freddy:

Don’t you have it in your part of the world? https://www.australiancurriculum.edu.au/f-10-curriculum/humanities-and-social-sciences/

The actual subjects in that are are geography, civics, economics and history.

And civics aim is to ensure students develop:

‘a lifelong sense of belonging to and engagement with civic life as an active and informed citizen in the context of Australia as a secular democratic nation with a dynamic, multicultural, multi-faith society and a Christian heritage.’

It wants the students to be ‘active and informed citizens’.

Your mileage may vary as to what that should entail.

 

[Rau]

A teacher’s personal view on the morality of any situation and whether it’s acceptable to you or not for him or her to pass that on your child is a matter entirely for you.

That’s non-responsive Fred.

 

[Freddy]

Freddy:

A teacher’s personal view on the morality of any situation and whether it’s acceptable to you or not for him or her to pass that on your child is a matter entirely for you.

That’s non-responsive Fred.

It’s the best advice I can give. Sorry you don’t find it acceptable. If you find yourself in a situation where you disagree with how a teacher approaches any given subject then feel free to respond to it as best you see fit.

 

[Rau]

It’s the best advice I can give. Sorry you don’t find it acceptable.

The point is, I wasn’t looking for advice, and your post did not respond to the point(s) I made.

 

[o_mlly]

o_mlly:

First, there is no free education anywhere.

True, but like with health care, many communities often agree to see to it that no person goes without for lack of financial resources. For this to work, we typically need government in the picture.

Drawing a parallel to government’s same-sex marriage legitimization as tantamount to a moral statement of its goodness, imagine that government recognized euthanasia as a “treatment” and required health care providers to accommodate patients who desired the “treatment”.

My point, I think, stands that use of the public coffers to fund society’s activities is legitimate as long as the public’s values relating to that service are in conformance. Once society splinters on core values then government must retreat as the provider.

 

[Rau]

My point, I think, stands that use of the public coffers to fund society’s activities is legitimate as long as the public’s values relating to that service are in conformance.

I don’t think it’s that simple. There are always diverse positions, but ensuring no one misses out on health care or a basic education for lack of money is a very big plus on one side of that ledger. There are risks and benefits. Problems that arise need to be fought, but without throwing baby out with the bath water.

 

[o_mlly]

I don’t think it’s that simple. There are always diverse positions, but ensuring no one misses out on health care or a basic education for lack of money

And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand (Mark 3:25).

If a community lacks a general will then, as particular wills move in and out of power, the community is whipsawed by contradicting policies. It is that simple. What follows is polarization, aggravation, violence and dissolution. Where there is little held in common there is but little community.

 

[Rau]

And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand (Mark 3:25).

When was the last time the entire community supported a single policy set? Never.

Where there is little held in common there is but little community.

The reality is that despite the differences, there is a great deal held in common in a great many communities.

 

[o_mlly]

When was the last time the entire community supported a single policy set? Never.

On fundamental values, always.

The reality is that despite the differences, there is a great deal held in common in a great many communities.

As long as included in the “great deal held in common” are fundamental values then we can compromise on the trivial.

Pundits now predict that the dissolution of the EU will parallel the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Brexit, anarchy in France, right-wing politics emerging in Germany and Italy, anti-migration policies in the eastern European countries of Hungary and Poland do not bode well for the EU.

We believe the Spirit unites and the devil divides. However, we are also taught, “Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words—go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet.” Stay tuned.

 

[Rau]

As long as included in the “great deal held in common” are fundamental values then we can compromise on the trivial.

If only this were the split. There is so much diversity of issue, of it’s significance and even opinion about its significance.