Representative Chris Smith: HHS Mandate is Attempt to End Catholic Health Care
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Scalia
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“If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention” It would appear our fellow Papists aren’t paying attention. Obamacare was truly a Trojan horse and Bishop Dolan’s protests now appear to be too little too late.
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Trader
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Where were the bishops and the Catholic Health Care Association when the law that enabled this terrible regulation was debated in the first place?
It is horribly wrong to force contraception and abortion on any Catholic institution, but it also wrong to force this insurance on any individual lay Catholic, or even any athiest, for that matter. It’s not like the President or his party had any recent record of respecting the right to life before now.
It is horribly wrong to force contraception and abortion on any Catholic institution, but it also wrong to force this insurance on any individual lay Catholic, or even any athiest, for that matter. It’s not like the President or his party had any recent record of respecting the right to life before now.
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I can’t speak for “the bishops” anymore than the USCCB can. But the USCCB and the Catholic Health Care Association were all pushing Obamacare until the Stupak Amendment debacle. Why they didn’t see things like this coming is beyond my powers of comprehension. And it isn’t over either. Not by a long shot.
But I would at least quibble a bit with Chris Smith. Sure, the Obama bunch would like to do away with “Catholic healthcare” to the extent it still exists. But it’s deeper than that. They don’t like Catholicism, period, because it is a life view very different from their own.
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Obama has got to go in 2012. Catholic healthcare must be protected, and the only way it can be is if Obama is not reelected. I have read of a Catholic health worker who says if this regulation is not repealed he will leave his job because he can not consent to the intrinsic evil of the regulation.
Bill McGurn:
Bill McGurn:
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JimG
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Why do I have the feeling that this is Kathleen Sebelius’ payback to her bishop for his continuing admonitions to her about her active pro-abortion stance back in Kansas? But that can’t be, because it’s the administration which wants to gut Catholic health care, not just Sebelius. Oh, but hey, they graciously gave the Catholic Church one year’s grace period before it will be forced to acquiesce in evil or get out of business.
It’s the most anti-Catholic administration that I can recall.
It’s the most anti-Catholic administration that I can recall.
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Where were/are the Catholic American citizens when someone takes their rights away and says it’s separation of church and state? Why do Catholics think it’s fair and reasonable that they pay twice for schools?
Too many of you think that as long as you don’t take the money, you’ll be okay. Naive. That’s just the first step, and we’re cooperating beautifully.
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Scott_Lafrance
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I’ve been saying this since Obamacare was passed. Representative Smith is free to call on me any time for political advice.
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Scott_Lafrance
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There, fixed it for ya.
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Lifesong
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I marched with NICU nurses from a Catholic hospital at the March for Life Monday- they said the same thing. They are afraid their hospital will be closed. Scary times!
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Lifesong
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Call me paranoid but as a nurse case manager, I feel that given what the Obama administration has in mind for health care in terms in rationing, the Catholic hospitals have to be out of the way to put their evil agenda in place. Believe me I am no conspiracy theorist, just afraid for my daughter with chronic illness dependent on expensive infusions and my catastrophically injured clients who require extensive rehab which will no longer be the priority. Call me crazy, I hope to God I am!
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TheRealJuliane
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And yet…Catholics voted Obama into office, in the same proportions as his other supporters. He didn’t hide his stance on life, either.
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irishpatrick
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And…those same Catholics will likely vote for Obama again.And yet…Catholics voted Obama into office, in the same proportions as his other supporters. He didn’t hide his stance on life, either.
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Trader
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It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
When I moved to Fort Wayne in 1984 we had three hospitals, one Catholic, one Lutheran, and one historically Methodist. None of them would perform abortions. Later he Catholic and Lutheran hospital merged and the terms of the merger included a ban on both abortions and sterilzations. The only way to get an abortion here is to wait for the “doctor” to come to a clinic on Thursday. He lives in Illinois and spends his week traveling to other clinics in towns where none of the hospitals will participate in the murder unborn babies.
The Obama administration thinks they can legislate and regulate conscience out of existence. Conscience has been around since Adam and Eve tried to hide themselves from God. I think that proves they are the crazy ones, not you.
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JimG
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I have to agree. It’s the most anti-Catholic administration ever. The most pro-abortion administration ever. The most anti-religion administration ever. Oh, I won’t even mention the highest and most unrestrained debt in history. Anti-Catholic is enough.There, fixed it for ya.
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incense
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Yes, mandatory euthanasia cannot be far behind.
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st_julie
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Perhaps it is that time like many other periods in history when the incense is brought forward for our testing. Often wondered how such events seemed to creep up on a population. These are the 21st century Diocletian-Henry VII–Robespierre-Mexican masons etc.laws that try once again to supress the Church.
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He_Man
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But I was told on Catholic Answers that he wants to REDUCE poverty and abortions!!!And yet…Catholics voted Obama into office, in the same proportions as his other supporters. He didn’t hide his stance on life, either.
The administration’s anti-Catholic stance is sickening, and seeing Catholics defend the administration is equally so.
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Ridgerunner
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No, you’re not being paranoid. My wife is, in effect, a nurse case manager for an organization that serves those with developmental disabilities. It’s getting harder and harder to get them treated. Granted, most of them are Medicaid, but some are Medicare or even insured. It isn’t that. It’s that the reimbursement has been altered in favor of “preventive care” (medical care for the well) and skewed against treatment of those with chronic conditions. Developmentally disabled people almost always have lots of problems, most of which are chronic.
Let’s face it, the chronically ill are usually not taxpayers. They consume but they do not produce. They are not favored by this administration, and why should anyone expect otherwise? If they are as fond as they are of aborting the innocent and potentially useful citizens, how can anyone expect them to care about those who produce nothing, cost much, but are inconvenientily (to them) already born?
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if Catholic hospitals close, “catholic” obama voters…you do realize that it means ONE less place for the poor to get wonderful care…which means one of the works of mercy can’t be performed! Care for the Sick! I would bet Catholic hospitals do a LOT of health care for the poor and don’t turn anyone away…and democrats claim to care for the poor… They would be taking away an OPTION for those who want good health care in God’s presence.
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