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Pork Roll, the point is we DONT have to look hard for minorities. Earlier in the thread someone claimed the Republican party is “old white males.” Instead many have listed a fabulous bench of up and comers, many minorities, many females. And the point is that because there is such a headwind for female and minority candidates to be Republican, I think it self selects for the best and brightest.
You are a real partisan, Liza. No attempt at fairness and that’s a real hoot. In the previous post, you dump on the Democrats with real invective, and in this post you endow the GOP hopefuls with heavenlike qualities. We’ll just have to wait a few months to see if your opinion will be validated or tossed into the dustbin. 🤷
 
Such bitterness…what will you do if Obama is re-elected?

John
What will I do if Obama is re-elected? Weep for the unborn. You are right - I am bitter that there are still catholics who would vote for such a man - in light of his pro-abortion policies.

Ishii
 
You are a real partisan, Liza. No attempt at fairness and that’s a real hoot. In the previous post, you dump on the Democrats with real invective, and in this post you endow the GOP hopefuls with heavenlike qualities. We’ll just have to wait a few months to see if your opinion will be validated or tossed into the dustbin. 🤷
Rich since you have bragged about your ignorance of the candidates I mentioned, you are hardly an authority about their qualities or lack thereof. As I said repeatedly, these people are not unfamiliar to me since I heard them long before they hit the public stage. I’ve watched and listened and I am impressed.

Since you have no knowledge and brag that you are not going to bother to learn anything about these candidates and elected officials, why are you weighing in on the subject?

BTW I have since thought of an up and coming star for your side of the aisle, Cory Booker.

Lisa
 
BTW I have since thought of an up and coming star for your side of the aisle, Cory Booker.
Cory Booker is a great credit to himself, his family and the city of Newark. He is in affliation a Democrat. That said, to anyone familiar with his record, it is no surprise that he is not more prominently featured in Democrat circles, although he is to speak at the Convention.
 
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Ishii, tax cuts for the wealthiest, deregulation, cutting social programs and increasing defense are not exactly new Republican ideas.
You are a broken record, Cmatt. Which policy is more compassionate? GOP plan of reforming the entitlements so they are saved for those who want/need them or Democrat plan of driving over the fiscal cliff and endangering their existence. Cmatt - Democrat policy of tax the rich, spend, tax, spend, tax, spend, create more dependency and despair is not compasssionate, its destructive. Chris Christie, whether you like him or not, tells it like it is. He, Ryan and Romney are being honest about the situation we’re in. The Democrats are the ones ignoringn the problem - no budget from Obama in how many years?
But if you insist on names, Ishii, there are too many within the Democratic Party to list all of them but I’ll give you some names if that will make you happy. 🤷

There is a current Sec of St who if she chose to run could be elected POTUS in 2016. There is Deval Patrick, an African American, who like your current RNC nominee did, is serving as governor of Mass. The chair of the DNC is a Jewish female Congresswoman. Serving under President Obama in other Cabinet positions besides Sec of St Clinton has been Sec of Labor Hilda Solis, former AZ governor Janet Napolitano has led Homeland Secuirty, former Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius HHS. And there are many Democratic female Senators. I won’t list all of them either. But to just give you some names. Kirsten Gillibrand, Jeanne Shaheen, Amy Klobuchar. Maria Cantwell, your own Patty Murray. Perhaps further down the road, I’ve been impressed with California’s Attn Gen, Kamala Harris in interviews I’ve seen her do on MSNBC. I could see her having a bright future in national Democratic Party politics if she should so choose to pursue a national career. She happens to be both African American and female. 🤷
I offer you successful governors and senators being touted for vice president and you offer… Patty Murry? She was the one who said, “Osama bin Laden has the support of the people because he built day care centers for the poor and we have not been doing that.” She is an embarassment to the senate (and the state of washington) and the fact that you offer her - and Kathleen Sebelius, the catholic partnering with Obama on his attack on religious freedom - shows that you have no real bright, fresh young leaders with new ideas - just Obama, Biden, the Clintons and a bunch of party hacks.
I’m actually very proud of the work many of these people have done standing up for the less fortunate, for the poor and middle class, for women rights, civil rights, and for the sick who need healthcare for instance.
their policies create more poor - compassionate indeed.
 
You are a real partisan, Liza. No attempt at fairness and that’s a real hoot. In the previous post, you dump on the Democrats with real invective, and in this post you endow the GOP hopefuls with heavenlike qualities. We’ll just have to wait a few months to see if your opinion will be validated or tossed into the dustbin. 🤷
She’s a real partisan? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 
I just saw part of Paul Ryan’s speech on YouTube. Wow, where did this guy come from? He’s the most “presidential” of the bunch on either side. I can easily see him as president in the future. Heck, I could easily see his face on Mount Rushmore!
He is an effective speaker, no doubt. And he seems to have no trouble appealing to both the Ayn Randist (atheists, self-servers, abortionists, etc.) and the anti-Ayn Randist (evangelicals, etc,) Not too many people who can do that.
 
I just saw part of Paul Ryan’s speech on YouTube. Wow, where did this guy come from? He’s the most “presidential” of the bunch on either side. I can easily see him as president in the future. Heck, I could easily see his face on Mount Rushmore!
He is great, isn’t he? Can’t wait to see him in the 1st position!

🙂

Of course I also like Condaleeza Rice very much.
 
Rich since you have bragged about your ignorance of the candidates I mentioned, you are hardly an authority about their qualities or lack thereof.
I don’t have to know how to play the piano to be able to give a valid opinion on the talent of the pianist. BTW, your use of “bragged” is hyperbole. 🤷
As I said repeatedly, these people are not unfamiliar to me since I heard them long before they hit the public stage. I’ve watched and listened and I am impressed.
Your being impressed is an appropriate and educated reaction. Will that, though, translate into their being elected and helping to sweep the accursed Democrats out of Congress?
Since you have no knowledge and brag that you are not going to bother to learn anything about these candidates and elected officials, why are you weighing in on the subject?
First, where in the Forum rules does it say that one must be wholly familiar with a candidate for office before being alllowed to comment on that individual?
Second, I have now gone to the effort of learning a bit about those people, and yes, a few appear to be interesting, but it is very unlikely that I’ll switch sides and vote for them.
BTW I have since thought of an up and coming star for your side of the aisle, Cory Booker.
Fine. I thought that you were going to point to some inner-city crook as an ideal Democrat, but you didn’t, and pointed to a man who is willing to some extent to stand up to his party as when he criticized its attacks on Mitt Romney’s private equity career. Obama strategist David Axelrod had fired back that Booker was “wrong” for calling the attacks on Romney’s Bain Capital tenure “nauseating.” Good for Booker!

But, even there, one has to wonder if he will rise above state politics - now Mayor of Newark, tomorrow Governor of New Jersey?
 
Calling the election for Romney already? I thought you were a Dem. 😃
There’s a well-deserved gotcha! I realized that one could come to that conclusion AFTER I had hit ENTER! 😃

But, hey, who knows? Maybe Romney will pull it off. 😉
 
So how do you explain the abortion rate declining significantly under the Clinton administration?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States
Actually, the RATE didn’t decline very much during the Clinton years, and declined much more during the Bush years. It was certainly much higher than it was before Roe.

The NUMBER of abortions declined during both administrations, but one has to remember that when Clinton first took office, twenty years had passed since Roe vs. Wade, so there were fewer young people of childbearing age by then, many having been aborted.

Also, of course, increased use of artificial contraceptives would have an effect. Same with abortifacient meds.

There is no real evidence that particular administrations have reduced the abortion rate or the numbers. But if one insists, one has to admit that the record was better during Bush’s administration than during Clinton’s.
 
Well sure that’s what I sometimes do. But I know people who don’t want to pay extra postage a ballot requires or they want to vote in person and actually deposit or record their vote in person instead of mailing in their ballot. They shouldn’t be forced to have to vote by mail just because they can’t make it to new restricted voting hrs and days. We should be encouraging more Americans to vote and giving them greater opportunity to do so. Not less. The more people who are able to participate and who do so, the better reflection of the will of the American people.
Then it shows how much people value their vote, that they won’t cough up a measly 45 cents? How much is your vote worth to you? To me, I’d gladly pay the 45 cents because over a billion people do not have this right.

Let’s be realistic, they have 35 days to vote, and under Ohio law your employer must allow you to take leave to vote. So nobody is restricting their hours, if they cannot be bothered to mail in absentee or inform their employer that they are going to vote and vote during the week…then that’s too bad. But please spare me the bleeding heart for people who only voted because the church decided to bus them in and give them a free meal. If those “working poor” as the Democrat-Propaganda-Establishment likes to call them can’t be bothered to vote on their own time…should we force 'em?

And no we should not be encouraging more people to vote, democracy leads only to anarchy and thus tyranny, but that’s a philosophical discussion.

And once again…the ACLU is in favor for this…so it’s a little hard to cry unfairness or “voter restriction”.
 
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