Republican Primaries

[ishii]

Let’s see, I apologized to you for possibly posting a comment that might have made your post seem unworthy. I admitted to being cranky and abrasive. You say I’m rambling, sarcastic and my posts are rants and poorly researched. But I insulted you.

I’m supposed to be worried whether or not I’m being taken serious on a web forum.

I’m supposed to believe that you and others on these boards will be persuaded to vote for anyone other than Perry when and after he debates Obama.

Seriously, I’m tearing up from the laughter. Can barely see my key board. Earlier, Scott La Fance called me a totalitarian and I thought that was seriously funny. But this, well it takes the cake. Can’t thank you enough for the comic relief.

Again sorry if I insulted you. Not my intention.

Now back to that robotic kit…

Big Ro, you make sarcastic and insulting posts then when someone calls you on it, you try to hide behind a bunch of laughter icons and make it out to be like the other guy is overreacting, while you continuing to be insulting : “If it makes you feel better” and “acceeding to your need to win.” etc. Not impressed.

Ishii

 

[Caldera]

More I see of Rick Perry… more I like.

Check this out.

vimeo.com/25676383

Rick Perry could have a serious impact on the current lineup. I think he would be a good candidate, and would like to hear him clarify his stance on issues in the coming months if he does decide to run.

ontheissues.org/Rick_Perry.htm

As unpopular as Newt Gingrich is for some people, I still think he may be the man for the job with the economy as the #1 issue. He did it before. He is a brilliant man and just belongs in government.

What does Newt Gingrich know?
nytimes.com/2011/07/03/magazine/what-does-newt-gingrich-know.html?_r=1

Mitt Romney: I happen to agree with just about everything he stands for on the issues, and it’s not surprising that he is currently in the lead. I will vote for him over Obama in a heartbeat if it comes down to it, but I’m just not gung-ho about having a Mormon President. (sorry)

Michele Bachmann would make a fine President or VP. Absolutely.

It’s still a bit early yet…

 

[Monte_RCMS]

I get nervous when Romney and Newt bring up nationalized medicine [romneycare] and global warming. That first day in office, they enforce EPA’s shutdown of the energy sector because of carbon dioxide.

Various agencies are preventing new oil development from filling the Alaska Pipeline from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez. So, gradually, the pipeline is running emptier and emptier. By law, if the pipeline is shut down, then it must be dismantled. Alaska can / does supply 15% of U.S. oil production. And once the pipeline is dismantled, good-bye Charlie.

Seemingly “innocent” and “minor” decisions on Alaska oil have MAJOR real-life impacts. I mean, what harm can it do … what’s the worst thing that can happen … to restrict Alaska oil production.

After all, it would take TEN YEARS to bring Alaska oil on-line … but that is a falsehood. One year. Max. One construction season for the pipeline and one month to drill one well with one rig.

EPA and the U.S. State Dept now have two other pipelines being held hostage … from Canada/North Dakota to the refineries in the Gulf of Mexico area. One is / was operational … only 11 months old and was ordered closed for “tests”. The other is in the design stage and is ready for construction, but the Feds are stopping it. [Hard to believe, but in about two years, North Dakota has gone from almost zero to about 7% of U.S. oil production … and increasing about 30% year over year. But they’re having to ship a lot of the oil out by rail because of the shortage of pipeline capacity.]

Energy is vitally important. And we have plenty of it available. But the only two candidates with a really good handle on it are:

… Palin/Bachmann or Bachmann/Palin.

Perry? … ok on Tuesday and Thursday. Not so hot on M,W,F … and today is F.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Monte RCMS:

I get nervous when Romney and Newt bring up nationalized medicine [romneycare] and global warming. That first day in office, they enforce EPA’s shutdown of the energy sector because of carbon dioxide.

Funny, those are two reasons why I find those candidates (particularly Romney) to be the most tolerable among the GOP candidates.

Energy is vitally important. And we have plenty of it available. But the only two candidates with a really good handle on it are:

… Palin/Bachmann or Bachmann/Palin.

Palin and Bachmann? Again, my sentiment is the exact opposite. Romney for the win.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Funny, those are two reasons why I find those candidates (particularly Romney) to be the most tolerable among the GOP candidates.

Palin and Bachmann? Again, my sentiment is the exact opposite. Romney for the win.

Your argument FOR Romney is exactly my argument AGAINST Romney!

[Why on earth would you favor shutting down the energy sector?]

[Why on earth would you favor one-size-fits-all healthcare?]

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Your argument FOR Romney is exactly my argument AGAINST Romney!

I wouldnt put much stock in the opinion of a liberal who will vote for Obama.

 

[agnes_therese]

. I don’t think there is a set formula as to when one can use a rainy day fund. Originally Gov. Perry didn’t want them to touch it at all, but I think that was just a negotiating ploy. . The concern is that they let it go too low it hurts the state’s bond rating which cost them in higher interest rates.

. I personally think they should dip into the rainy day fund to get the Houston Astros pitching help…

Also, we need to keep some for disaster relief in case of hurricanes. It would be more help there than it would be with the Astros.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I wouldnt put much stock in the opinion of a liberal who will vote for Obama.

Who are you referring to exaclty? Because it certainly isn’t me, if that’s what you think. A favorite tactic of yours? If you disagree with someone, peg them a liberal, put your fingures in your ears and convince yourselftheir opinion is irrelevant?

 

[Raskolnikov]

Your argument FOR Romney is exactly my argument AGAINST Romney!

[Why on earth would you favor shutting down the energy sector?]

[Why on earth would you favor one-size-fits-all healthcare?]

I don’t agree with the apparent majority on this forum that anthropogenic global warming is a hoax. This isn’t the forum for that discussion of course, so we can just call that an axiomatic difference in our perspectives. And there are other ways to make energy cheaper that are easier. One is consuming less, which can easily be done without reducing the standard of living.

And “one size fits all” isn’t IMO the right word for it. Again, I don’t want to let myself diverge from the thread, but I am convinced that the health insurance industry has economies of scale and so a single payer system would be ideal. It is funny indeed that your reasons against are mine for.

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Who are you referring to exaclty? Because it certainly isn’t me, if that’s what you think. A favorite tactic of yours? If you disagree with someone, peg them a liberal, put your fingures in your ears and convince yourselftheir opinion is irrelevant?

Heck, I agree with you.

Conservatives for Obama!

Rock on!!

Actually, I attended the last meeting, as an observer, of the Conservatives for Obama and attendance was sparse. Actually, besides me, there was only one other person there.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Who are you referring to exaclty? Because it certainly isn’t me, if that’s what you think. A favorite tactic of yours? If you disagree with someone, peg them a liberal, put your fingures in your ears and convince yourselftheir opinion is irrelevant?

Ya know… I thought… do I have the wrong person… then a quick search of your posts and yeah… liberal.

Tactic? Are you ashamed of being a liberal? I am not ashamed of being conservative.

A liberals opinion on the republican primary is of little value. Just like my opinion on any democrat primary would be of little value to liberals.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Heck, I agree with you.

Conservatives for Obama!

Rock on!!

Actually, I attended the last meeting, as an observer, of the Conservatives for Obama and attendance was sparse. Actually, besides me, there was only one other person there.

Funny, I’ve never heard of that group. But no, even that assumption by Stjudeprayforus was not true, I do not plan on voting for Obama.

Though I may found and publicize an organization called “socialists for Bachmann” just to see ifI can scare some votes in Romney’s direction in the primary. Or maybe “Satanists for Pawlenty.”

 

[Raskolnikov]

Ya know… I thought… do I have the wrong person… then a quick search of your posts and yeah… liberal.

Tactic? Are you ashamed of being a liberal? I am not ashamed of being conservative.

A liberals opinion on the republican primary is of little value. Just like my opinion on any democrat primary would be of little value to liberals.

I’m sorry you have such a dichotomous view of the world, that because I’m not a a fan of the GOP, I must be a liberal. On these forums of course I get called that occasionally, because simply not a far right-winger.

I’m not ashamed of anything I believe in. Unlike you, I don’t allow some institution run by demagogues and who’s sole interest is the aquisition of power (I’m describing political parties) to encapsulate my beliefs with their platforms.

 

[Caldera]

I get nervous when Romney and Newt bring up nationalized medicine [romneycare] and global warming. That first day in office, they enforce EPA’s shutdown of the energy sector because of carbon dioxide.

Various agencies are preventing new oil development from filling the Alaska Pipeline from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez. So, gradually, the pipeline is running emptier and emptier. By law, if the pipeline is shut down, then it must be dismantled. Alaska can / does supply 15% of U.S. oil production. And once the pipeline is dismantled, good-bye Charlie.

Seemingly “innocent” and “minor” decisions on Alaska oil have MAJOR real-life impacts. I mean, what harm can it do … what’s the worst thing that can happen … to restrict Alaska oil production.

After all, it would take TEN YEARS to bring Alaska oil on-line … but that is a falsehood. One year. Max. One construction season for the pipeline and one month to drill one well with one rig.

EPA and the U.S. State Dept now have two other pipelines being held hostage … from Canada/North Dakota to the refineries in the Gulf of Mexico area. One is / was operational … only 11 months old and was ordered closed for “tests”. The other is in the design stage and is ready for construction, but the Feds are stopping it. [Hard to believe, but in about two years, North Dakota has gone from almost zero to about 7% of U.S. oil production … and increasing about 30% year over year. But they’re having to ship a lot of the oil out by rail because of the shortage of pipeline capacity.]

Energy is vitally important. And we have plenty of it available. But the only two candidates with a really good handle on it are:

… Palin/Bachmann or Bachmann/Palin.

Perry? … ok on Tuesday and Thursday. Not so hot on M,W,F … and today is F.

Monte RCMS,

I have very few if any worries with Newt:
video.foxbusiness.com/v/1029386288001/newt-gingrich-on-energy-job-growth/?playlist_id=87073

How about Gingrich/Bachmann in 2012

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Which is why your opinion on the GOP primary… doesnt mean too much.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Which is why your opinion on the GOP primary… doesnt mean too much.

On the contrary, that is precisely why it means much, considering that the likelihood of me voting for a GOP candidate hangs in the balance. For those of you will vote GOP no matter who gets the nomination, they have nothing to worry about.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

On the contrary, that is precisely why it means much, considering that the likelihood of me voting for a GOP candidate hangs in the balance. For those of you will vote GOP no matter who gets the nomination, they have nothing to worry about.

I find that hard to believe.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I find that hard to believe.

You find what hard to believe?

 

[ishii]

I’m sorry you have such a dichotomous view of the world, that because I’m not a a fan of the GOP, I must be a liberal. On these forums of course I get called that occasionally, because simply not a far right-winger.

I’m not ashamed of anything I believe in. Unlike you, I don’t allow some institution run by demagogues and who’s sole interest is the aquisition of power (I’m describing political parties) to encapsulate my beliefs with their platforms.

You do understand that historically, those who favor a single payer, government run healthcare system have been liberal/left types? Hillary Clinton tried to get her program passed in the early 90’s and the backlash against that was partly what resulted in the overthrow of decades of Democrat dominance of congress. Its what put Newt Gingrich on the map. That is why conservatives are so uneasy about Romney because he instituted a similar type of program in Massachusetts.

Not every one on the right is a fan of GOP - some of the fiercest critics of them are right wingers on these forums. Much of the criticism coming from the right is of the foreign policy of the GOP and the spending under Bush. Too many people (many of them liberals) wrongly equate being right wing with being a Republican and that is too simplistic. Or they think that supporting the foreign policy of the GOP is “right-wing.” I think the further right one goes, the less interventionist a foreign policy one supports. An interventionist foreign policy does, after all, require a big government and relatively high confiscatory tax policies. Moreover, supporting nation-building is seemingly liberal social engineering writ large.

I would have no problem voting for a Romney or a Pawlenty. I think either of them would be a formidable candidate against Obama. My gut tells me that if Michelle Bachmann got the nomination then the press would have a field day with her and her “flakiness” as Chris Wallace of Fox Newss put it and some of the controversial things she’s said. The election needs to be about Obama’s failure as president and the GOP candidate’s plan to fix our economy.

I hope you consider voting for the GOP candidate if you think they’re worthy.

Ishii

 

[Tsuwano]

One question rattling around my mind is would McCain’s support of a particular candidate help or hurt that candidate’s rating with the Republican base?