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Monte_RCMS said:
Look at the trend line in our military expenditures.

There are many different ways of measuring military spending.

Just between you and me, click on this and look at the chart.

airforce-magazine.com/MagazineArchive/Magazine%20Documents/2011/April%202011/0411chart.pdf

You need to examine the “two war” strategy … for example.

Keeping in mind that building back up after a shut down, takes years and years.

After President Jimmy Carter’s fiasco with “Desert One” in which a major operation failed with a lot of U.S. deaths and a lot of humiliation, someone asked me how we could fall so far so fast. What I pointed out was that the average enlistment was for only two or three years … so that we had to rebuild half or a third of our military every year … just on a normal on-going basis. And if we cut back, there would be nothing to start from, … so we would have to start over.

If you want a ship, it takes years. Which is why we have an on-going ship building program. When you need to send sailors into combat, you don’t have the time to build a fleet and train the sailors. You have to fight with what you have. When Donald Rumsfeld, our Secretary of Defense under President Bush, said that, he was pilloried by the news media.

President Obama terminated production of the F-22 Stealth Fighter. If we decide we need more of them … how long do you think it will take to either design a new stealth fighter or build a whole new production infrastructure to resume F-22 production.

The Air Force bureaucracy, aided by constant attacks by John McCain [yes, THAT John McCain], was unable to make up their minds on a new aerial refueling tanker plane. Meanwhile the mainstay refueler, the KC-135 dates back to the 1950’s. They are on their second or third re-engining … and they have wing cracks. And in a FEW YEARS, we MAY have a modified Boeing 767 ever so slowly coming off the lines. [By the way, Boeing worked with the Italians and the Japanese and has delivered a 767 tanker … but, they weren’t using our bureaucracy.]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-135_Stratotanker

You can rail against war profiteering. But you can’t define it.

You can argue all day about the 10-year development of the F-15 versus the competition that produced the YF-16 and the YF-17 and John Boyd. And the F-18 platform. [And look up all of that.] [And how may years did it take to design, test and build the F-22?]

Anyway, you want military people and military hardware and you want to protect Americans? It’s not cheap and it’s not easy.
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Excellent point! Your right, I haven’t done enough studying to “define” war profiteering…but the concept of profiteering is one of the conversations in the current debate…

Cheerz.

Bruce
 
Romney steps up defense of business record…

“Mitt Romney on Thursday aggressively defended his tenure as head of Bain Capital, asserting again that his private-equity career resulted in the net creation of over 100,000 jobs while also calling any job losses an unfortunate fact of life in the private sector. … Romney said any job loss is a “tragedy,” but insisted that every time Bain “invested in a business it was to try and encourage that business to have ongoing life.”” - CNN

“[R]arely has there been an attack that had such uncertain potential to harm a candidate in a primary but such clear potential to harm him in the general election. Welcome to the strange world of “super PACs” and the undisciplined messaging that they can facilitate.” - Nate Silver

Peggy Noonan: South Carolina will most likely pick Romney - WSJ

…As the GOP is divided over attacks on Romney’s private sector career

“[T]he debate over Bain – a proxy for a broader argument about the rough and tumble of market capitalism – looks set to continue through the next primary in South Carolina, a state with a pronounced populist streak that is possibly the last chance for Romney’s rivals to slow his march toward the nomination. Newt Gingrich, one of the harshest critics of Romney’s Bain years, acknowledged Wednesday that it was a tough argument, but his campaign said he has no plans to back off.” - New York Post

“A number of conservative leaders have come to Romney’s defense, including Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Tim Phillips, who leads the tea-party-friendly Americans for Prosperity. On Thursday, a former Perry donor and former South Carolina GOP chairman, Barry Wynn, switched teams and endorsed Romney — in part over the Bain issue.” - Washington Post

David Brooks: “In reality, Romney’s Bain success is largely irrelevant to the question of whether he could be a good president.” - New York Times

Mitt Romney starts campaigning in Florida - LA Times

“Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign expects to pick up a raft of new donors – beginning with a fund-raiser Thursday night in Palm Beach, Fla.” - WSJ

The Veepstakes: Rubio, Martinez, Christie, Portman, Thune, McDonnell, Haley, Sandoval and and Daniels

“The GOP primary is not over yet, but, with Mitt Romney firmly in control of the race, it isn’t too soon to begin asking: Who might he select as his running mate? … The most striking thing that emerged from these conversations was that some Republicans are a lot more excited about the vice presidential choices than about the presidential ones.” - The advantages and disadvantages of each VP contender, at The New Republic
 
Christian conservatives - just as in Iowa - are yet to rally round a candidate in South Carolina

“The 2012 version of the South Carolina Republican primary is shaping up to look a lot like the 2008 edition. Once again, the right is splintered between conservative alternatives to a center-right favorite who’s coming out of New Hampshire with a burst of momentum. And, just as John McCain did four years ago, Romney could win the state by turning in a strong performance on the more moderate coastline as his rivals carve up the vote in such Upstate population centers as Greenville and Spartanburg.” - Politico

“Even as Mitt Romney marches steadily toward the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, a new poll released on Thursday underscores lingering distrust between members of his Mormon religion and the evangelical community that constitutes a large bloc of voters in South Carolina.” - National Journal
 
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Hopefully he can beat Romney so we can get a real Conservative and not a Massachusetts Moderate. Once he stops Romney’s momentum, we can hopefully get Rick Santorum’s momentum back, and it will be a Gingrich vs. Santorum campaign, which, considering their good friendship and similar beliefs, will likely lead to one of them being vice-president. Having two great Catholic Conservatives as president and vice-president would be an amazing accomplishment and blessing to America.
 
ATeutonicKnight said:
youtube.com/watch?v=6Z6CgGfMR7g&feature=youtu.be

Hopefully he can beat Romney so we can get a real Conservative and not a Massachusetts Moderate. Once he stops Romney’s momentum, we can hopefully get Rick Santorum’s momentum back, and it will be a Gingrich vs. Santorum campaign, which, considering their good friendship and similar beliefs, will likely lead to one of them being vice-president. Having two great Catholic Conservatives as president and vice-president would be an amazing accomplishment and blessing to America.
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We’ll see what happens in South Carolina, but what you’re saying sounds to me like a bit of wishful thinking. I don’t think Gingrich would ever take the position of vice-president, not with his ego (and experience). However, Romney and Santorum may be a possibility.
 
Anyone but Obama. All we got with hope n change is millions in funding for planned parenthood and record poverty levels.

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I would be hugely satisfied to see Rick win the nomination. On a candidate test, we matched up almost perfectly…

but

how exactly is Romney a moderate? He is:
  1. Pro-life
  2. Pro lower taxes (including capital gains)
  3. anti Obamacare
  4. Pro a strong national defense
I admit that I am not sure as to his current stance on gay marriage and the 2nd Amendment, and would appreciate help there. 🙂
 
The latest ARG poll in South Carolina shows Romney’s lead slipping and Ron Paul surging.

Latest ARG numbers: Romney 29, Gingrich 25, Paul 20.

The GOP better wake up! Ron Paul personally rescued the GOP from their drift toward obscurity when his supporters started the Tea Party and handed the House back to them in 2010. Now Romney, whose support is a creation of the media’s constant repetition of the phrase, “Mitt Romney is the frontrunner,” is on path to be the next McCain.

The neomarxists in the Democrat party and the neoconservatives who have hijacked the Republican party know that Ron Paul is the only candidate with a chance at beating Obama in the general election. He is going to ruin all their warmongering and social and economic engineering. I know there are polls putting Romney maybe 2 or 3 percentage points ahead of Obama in a general election but Ron Paul’s supporters are not going to settle for the “lesser of two evils” this time around. The stakes are too high this time around.
 
I’m not all that concerned with who wins the nomination, or who wins the election. History has proven saints and sinners alike in countries with even most evil despotic leaders. Follow the principles of the Gospel, and the law of God and all will be well with you! Even in ancient times, God may have acted harshly on Israel when their leaders sinned, but still he when it seemed dark for the entire nation, he showed mercy on the individuals who were righteous.
 
As much as I like Rick, I don’t think he’s presidential material right now. I hope that changes some day.

For example, he speaks about certain moral issues (like homosexuality) with such callousness that (imo) it borders on being contrary to Catholic teaching.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
I would be hugely satisfied to see Rick win the nomination. On a candidate test, we matched up almost perfectly…

but

how exactly is Romney a moderate? He is:
  1. Pro-life
  2. Pro lower taxes (including capital gains)
  3. anti Obamacare
  4. Pro a strong national defense
I admit that I am not sure as to his current stance on gay marriage and the 2nd Amendment, and would appreciate help there. 🙂
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Google Romey’s past voting record. He is a moderate. In the 2000’s he has voted for partial birth abortions and he said that he is prolife but he voted that it was okay for others to have abortions in the past.

I am for Rick Santurum but I have googled Nute’s voting record. I agree on all them especially bringing back our rights to religious freedom and against abortion. He is now a very devout Catholic. Nute is not very popular but he has the smarts and the most experience.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
how exactly is Romney a moderate? He is:
  1. Pro-life
  2. Pro lower taxes (including capital gains)
  3. anti Obamacare
  4. Pro a strong national defense
I admit that I am not sure as to his current stance on gay marriage and the 2nd Amendment, and would appreciate help there. 🙂
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  1. This goes against his previous years in politics were he was vocally pro-abortioon
  2. He raised them, in fact he boasted about it and also created new fee’s to the tune of 750 million dollars.
  3. His terrible plan in Mass was the basis for obamacare and he said in his book (before he edited it out in the second edition) “We can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country.”
He is anti second amendment passing restrictions and raising fees on legal gun owners while governor. There is a reason he is not running on his record as a governor because only people in Mass would vote for him.
 
Birdpreacher said:
Damning Ad which highlights what I think makes conservatives cringe about Romney’s Record.

youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c
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Mitt Romney:

“The nice thing that people had to go for in my case is I have a record. I was governor for four years. You can look at my record and see what I did and my beliefs were evident in the actions that I took… These experiences that I had as governor demonstrate a conservatism that I think people want to see. I ran for office and the positions I had four years ago are the same positions I’m campaigning on on today. I also wrote a book and wrote out my vision for America. Have I become more conservative over the years? Yeah. I think if you have been through the experience I have through, If you’ve been a governor of a liberal state and seen the policies that some of the liberals in the state wanted to put in place, you become more conservative and you become convinced that they are wrong and you are right.”

mojoe.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/20/9583574-romney-im-not-a-bomb-thrower-or-a-flip-flopper
 
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