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As a former resident of the Keystone State THANK YOU!! :tiphat:
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As a former resident of the Keystone State THANK YOU!! :tiphat:
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qui_est_ce
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Fixed it for ya.
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rlg94086
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Misery?Fixed it for ya.
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ProVobis
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MJE
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An excerpt from New Yorker magazine’s John Cassidy:
To educated liberals of almost any description, Santorum is an abomination. It’s not just that he’s a pro-life, anti-gay, anti-contraception Roman Catholic of the most retrogressive and diehard Opus Dei variety. It’s his entire persona. With his seven kids, his Jaycee fashion code, his nineteen-seventies colonial MacMansion in northern Virginia, his irony bypass, he seems to delight in outraging self-styled urban sophisticates: the sort of folks who buy organic milk, watch The Daily Show, and read the New York Times (and The New Yorker, of course).
Read more newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/02/rick-santorum-could-be-for-real.html#ixzz1lwjenlK6
To educated liberals of almost any description, Santorum is an abomination. It’s not just that he’s a pro-life, anti-gay, anti-contraception Roman Catholic of the most retrogressive and diehard Opus Dei variety. It’s his entire persona. With his seven kids, his Jaycee fashion code, his nineteen-seventies colonial MacMansion in northern Virginia, his irony bypass, he seems to delight in outraging self-styled urban sophisticates: the sort of folks who buy organic milk, watch The Daily Show, and read the New York Times (and The New Yorker, of course).
Read more newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/02/rick-santorum-could-be-for-real.html#ixzz1lwjenlK6
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Nine_Two
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I also take some delight in the annoyance of self-styled sophisticates.
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Catholic1954
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Isn’t “enlightened liberal” a contradiction of terms? 
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the_phoenix
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I thought by “enlightened liberal” you meant
one who had become conservative.
one who had become conservative.
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Ah, the old lesser of two evils argument, again. We are not buying that discredited argument anymore. The stakes are too high.
“Although the blame is square on your [my] hands”??!! That is a lie. The blame lies squarely with those that voted for Bob Casey, Jr. I did not vote for Bob Casey, Jr. The blame lies squarely with Rick Santorum for** ENDORSING **a pro-death candidate (Arlen Specter) over a pro-life candidate (Pat Toomey) over a “supreme-court nominee deal” that Arlen Specter denies ever took place. The blame lies with so-called Catholics and so-called leaders of the pro-life movement that continue to make excuses for Santorum’s inexcusable behavior, while deriding and marginalizing the only candidate with a consistent, principled pro-life VOTING RECORD - Ron Paul. Did Santorum ever publicly support the Sanctity of Life Act and the We the People Act that were sponsored by Ron Paul? It is inexcusable that certain “pro-life organizations” try to pretend that Ron Paul is not 100% pro-life when they know that his constitutional approach to the issue would have saved many more lives, and ended legal abortion much quicker, than the unconstitutional and ineffective federalist interventionist approach espoused by Santorum. It sort of makes one wonder who certain “pro-life organizations” are really working for. It sort of makes one wonder who Santorum is really working for.
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Enlightened liberals are tedious and mean spirited
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Jeanne_S
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An oxymoron,or just a moron ?:Isn’t “enlightened liberal” a contradiction of terms?
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One of the bi-products of this whole Obama/HHS attack on the Catholic church and Santorum’s victories is that it has made Ron Paul yesterday’s news. The stakes are big now and we don’t have time to discuss the fringe candidate who has no chance of winning anyway (although the Paul supporters will say that he is “the only guy who can win.”). ’
Obama’s policies are evil and need to be defeated. It is time Ron Paul supporters get behind either Romney (!!) or Santorum so that we can defeat Obama. Don’t help Obama by supporting Ron Paul.
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The facts:
From 1995 through 2006, Rick Santorum voted 10 times to fund Title X and International family planning services, including Planned Parenthood, that directly funded contraception and indirectly funded abortion. (youtube.com/watch?v=sB5pZqAenp4)
Rick Santorum supported and endorsed radical pro-death politicians, including former NJ Governor Christine Todd Whitman and former PA Senator Arlen Specter. WARNING!: watching the following endorsement might make you sick (youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HOb0NEJ1E)
In addition to his well-known endorsements of Arlen Specter and Christine Todd Whitman, Santorum’s Leadership PAC, America’s Foundation, financially supported candidates who have supported pro-abortion positions, including:
Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) $9,500 between 2004 & 2010
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) $10,000 in 2002
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) $10,000 in 2004
Santorum also voted for funding for the Legal Services Corporation, which has spent federal funds challenging parental notification laws for abortion.
In contrast to Santorum’s betrayal, we have Ron Paul’s record:
In 2005, 2007, 2009, and 2011, Paul reintroduced the Sanctity of Life Act, which would have life defined as beginning at conception at the Federal level. However, he believes regulation of medical decisions about maternal or fetal health is “best handled at the state level”. He believes that according to the U.S. Constitution states should, for the most part, retain jurisdiction. Paul’s constitutional approach can immediately save lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.” In addition to defining human life to begin at conception at the Federal level, Paul’s Sanctity of Life Act would remove challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction. In 2005, Paul also introduced the “We the People Act,” which would have removed “any claim based upon the right of privacy, including any such claim related to any issue of … reproduction” from the jurisdiction of federal courts. If made law, either of these acts would allow states to prohibit abortion, immediately.
In order to “offset the effects of Roe v. Wade”, Paul voted in favor of the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. He has described partial birth abortion as a “barbaric procedure”. He also introduced H.R. 4379 that would prohibit the Supreme Court from ruling on issues relating to abortion, birth control, the definition of marriage and homosexuality and would cause the court’s precedents in these areas to no longer be binding. He once said, “The best solution, of course, is not now available to us. That would be a Supreme Court that recognizes that for all criminal laws, the several states retain jurisdiction.”
Because Paul agrees with Thomas Jefferson that it is “sinful and tyrannical” to “compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors,” Ron Paul advocates protecting the American people’s freedom of conscience by working to prohibit taxpayer funds from being used for abortions, Planned Parenthood, or any other so-called “family planning” program.
Looking at voting records, philosophy, and understanding of the Constitution which they take an oath to uphold, it is evident that Ron Paul is far more “pro-life” than Rick Santorum.
Now, contrast Rick Santorum’s philosophy with Reagan’s:
“One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a libertarian-ish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.
Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone. That there is no such society that I am aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.” - Slick Rick, 2005, NPR Interview
Contrasted with Reagan: “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” - Inside Ronald Reagan
Here is Ron Paul on abortion in his own words, if you don’t believe me:
South Carolina Debate: (youtube.com/watch?v=cypg0Qvh__8)
Personhood USA Forum: (youtube.com/watch?v=Hv7wNgZWU9c)
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Nominate Santorum and you will guarantee an Obama second term.
Santorum and Gingrich have serious ballot issues. They are not even on all the ballots in all the states. They are not serious candidates.
It really shows how arrogant Santorum is for him to think that after he stabbed the pro-life movement in the back in Pennsylvania, and lost by the largest losing margin for an incumbent Republican Senator ever, that he is now somehow more electable and will have another shot at it in the general election. This man is delusional; the more so when you seperate his rhetoric from his voting records. Heck, at least Mitt Romney is honest about his past flip-flops. Santorum is in perpetual denial and excuse mode. Arlen Specter called him a liar over the 2004 Supreme Court nominee deal that Santorum insists took place. Do you want a potential liar in the White House and as Commander in Chief?
This is a two way race between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. The national polls demonstrate this and you are going to have to decide which of them is the true conservative.
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The lengths the Paul-bots will go to to try to discredit a genuine, authentic pro-life man like Santorum is truly sad. I am glad that almost no one buys into that nonsense except the most wild-eyed Kool-aid drinking Paul supporters. Their numbers are small, thankfully.
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Paul-bots? How charitable. Crickets from Robert Bay.
The lengths to which Santorum supporters will go to try to whitewash the record of the pro-life-in-rhetoric-only Santorum is truly sad. I am sure that Obama is glad that many Republicans (not to be confused with constitutional conservatives) buy into Santorum’s rhetoric. Unfortunatley, their numbers are large and will all but guarantee Obama a second term.
See, ishii, I can play that game.
Let’s stick to the facts which I keep presenting and which you have yet to dispute with facts.
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Excellent article ProVobis. I was unaware that Chuck Baldwin had wrote those words. He sums up the entire crux of the abortion issue with that one article. Thanks for posting.
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It is important for those in caucus states to attend their caucus and become a delegate to the next level. Ron Paul supporters are trying to gain a disproportionate number of delegates by training their supporters to become delegates, and to try to eventually advance to the national convention. I don’t want Paul supporters holding sway over a brokered convention. Frankly, it is a smart strategy if the nomination process becomes dragged out, and Paul starts winning some States. It worked for Obama against Clinton 4 years ago. If you live in a caucus state, it is important that you attend your caucus and become a delegate (bring your adult family members and friends). Otherwise the Paul supporters may very well end up losing a majority of the straw polls, but winning a significant amount of delegates. BTW I don’t believe that Paul will win the bulk of the national delegates in Minnesota, but he my pull a disproportionate amount. Santorum and Romney supporters are aware of his strategy.
huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/ron-paul-caucus-strategy_n_1266840.html
nytimes.com/2012/01/16/us/politics/ron-pauls-campaign-plots-path-focused-on-delegate-math.html?pagewanted=all
ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?359115-Caucus-Delegate-Strategy-IMPORTANT!
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