Republican Primary

[RACJ]

President Obama is doing what every other President has done in modern times. Just like the democrats squeal every time the Republicans do the same thing, the republicans express outrage every time the democrats do likewise; perhaps its time that both parties start to learn how to work together and knock off all of this partisan politics.

How do we "work together" with a despot? Roll over, or should we defend our Constitutional liberties, granted to us by God, instead?
Republican Presidents have NOT done "the same" as Obama. Never before has a President made recess appointments when the Senate is IN session. Never before has one authorized a network of unelected, unaccountable czars to make decisions about every aspect of our lives. Never before has our POTUS stifled energy production, including now shutting down the Gulf and rejecting a vital pipeline from Canada, while giving billions to Brazil  and Mexico for deep water exploration instead. Never before has a so-called American leader imposed upon every American, against their will, a mandate to buy a specific product (health "care"). Never before has one been a ruthless crony "capitalist", given billions to failing political contributors such as Solyndra and dozens of others scam energy companies. Never before has the WH been so ashamed of Christianity that he covered a crucifix at Georgetown before he spoke. Never before has one buzzed NYC  with his jet AFTER 9/11. Gamewell, it is past time that everyone stood up against this horrible man intent on destroying our way of life. *I* refuse to leave my children with a socialist hell on earth without a fight to prevent it! Cordially, Rob
I might get tossed from CA for my frank comments, but I hope that someone takes the mantle if I "disappear". Every word I say is true, and I could go on for half an hour about Obama. Listen to patriots such as Mark Levin, and you'll realize that our very liberty is at stake.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Easily. I support Truman’s decision to drop the two nukes on Japan, even though many innocents were killed. Sometimes necessary choices aren’t happy ones. Rob

I do not support what he did, but at this nearly 67 year remove, leave the burden of guilt for what was done on Truman, and the consequences of what he authorized to God.

 

[qui_est_ce]

How do we “work together” with a despot? Roll over, or should we defend our Constitutional liberties, granted to us by God, instead?
Republican Presidents have NOT done “the same” as Obama. Never before has a President made recess appointments when the Senate is IN session. Never before has one authorized a network of unelected, unaccountable czars to make decisions about every aspect of our lives. Never before has our POTUS stifled energy production, including now shutting down the Gulf and rejecting a vital pipeline from Canada, while giving billions to Brazil and Mexico for deep water exploration instead. Never before has a so-called American leader imposed upon every American, against their will, a mandate to buy a specific product (health “care”). Never before has one been a ruthless crony “capitalist”, given billions to failing political contributors such as Solyndra and dozens of others scam energy companies. Never before has the WH been so ashamed of Christianity that he covered a crucifix at Georgetown before he spoke. Never before has one buzzed NYC with his jet AFTER 9/11. Gamewell, it is past time that everyone stood up against this horrible man intent on destroying our way of life. I refuse to leave my children with a socialist hell on earth without a fight to prevent it! Cordially, Rob
I might get tossed from CA for my frank comments, but I hope that someone takes the mantle if I “disappear”. Every word I say is true, and I could go on for half an hour about Obama. Listen to patriots such as Mark Levin, and you’ll realize that our very liberty is at stake.

Keep on with the Truth!

 

[Swiss_Guy]

Easily. I support Truman’s decision to drop the two nukes on Japan, even though many innocents were killed. Sometimes necessary choices aren’t happy ones. Rob

The end doesn’t justify the means. So dropping two nukes on Japan to end the war doesn’t justify what was done–killing many innocent people.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

The end doesn’t justify the means. So dropping two nukes on Japan to end the war doesn’t justify what was done–killing many innocent people.

As I said, I won’t try to defend what happened, but it happened so long ago that I’ll leave it to God to be Truman’s judge for reward or damnation about it.

 

[Alan55]

How do we “work together” with a despot? Roll over, or should we defend our Constitutional liberties, granted to us by God, instead?
Republican Presidents have NOT done “the same” as Obama. Never before has a President made recess appointments when the Senate is IN session. Never before has one authorized a network of unelected, unaccountable czars to make decisions about every aspect of our lives. Never before has our POTUS stifled energy production, including now shutting down the Gulf and rejecting a vital pipeline from Canada, while giving billions to Brazil and Mexico for deep water exploration instead. Never before has a so-called American leader imposed upon every American, against their will, a mandate to buy a specific product (health “care”). Never before has one been a ruthless crony “capitalist”, given billions to failing political contributors such as Solyndra and dozens of others scam energy companies. Never before has the WH been so ashamed of Christianity that he covered a crucifix at Georgetown before he spoke. Never before has one buzzed NYC with his jet AFTER 9/11. Gamewell, it is past time that everyone stood up against this horrible man intent on destroying our way of life. I refuse to leave my children with a socialist hell on earth without a fight to prevent it! Cordially, Rob
I might get tossed from CA for my frank comments, but I hope that someone takes the mantle if I “disappear”. Every word I say is true, and I could go on for half an hour about Obama. Listen to patriots such as Mark Levin, and you’ll realize that our very liberty is at stake.

I disagree with your premise: Obama is not a despot (or dictator, socialist, destroyer of the Amercian way of life, anti-Christian, etc., etc.) by any fair definition of the term. You may hate the man, but cut out the extreme rhetoric. Just saying it’s so, even saying it’s so again and again, doesn’t make it so.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Why does EVERY political thread turn into an ‘only-Ron-Paul-can-save-us’ cheerleading session?

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

I see. “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!”

The Communist Party is an issue in no politician’s campaign, not even the most conservative ones. The CPUSA is only a curiosity nowadays, and even in Russia, it is not the major party.

You are decades behind the times.

The enemy loves that sort of thinking.

 

[Swiss_Guy]

Unbelievable!!! Go Santorum!!!

 

[kubark]

LOL. You are unable to read the polling data provided. RealClearPolitics provides an average, which is what you are going by. The most recent poll from Rasmussen shows the data The Rock was referring to. Opinion polls are dynamic, and there has been an obvious shift toward Santorum. Winning a few states will do that. Will he sustain it? Time will tell.

LOL. The average is what counts. LOL.

 

[estesbob]

LOL. The average is what counts. LOL.

No what counts is the actual votes-none of which Paul has won.

 

[RACJ]

I disagree with your premise: Obama is not a despot (or dictator, socialist, destroyer of the Amercian way of life, anti-Christian, etc., etc.) by any fair definition of the term. You may hate the man, but cut out the extreme rhetoric. Just saying it’s so, even saying it’s so again and again, doesn’t make it so.

 Alan, I've found that no amount of evidence, no number of radical leftist admirers in the Obama WH is sufficient to convince some people of what they refuse to believe. People, for example, can learn that *Obama* himself sued Citibank to FORCE it to give bad loans to minorities, and still believe him when he babbles about *Wall St.* being responsible for the housing market collapse, and not Democrat politicians.
  I know, I don't understand people's gullibility either. :doh2: Blessings, Rob

 

[kubark]

And you believe Arlen Spector after he changed parties to try for re-election? And somehow he did support (or at least not oppose) two SC nominees that he otherwise might not have.

I don’t know who to believe. Either Santorum is lying. Or Specter is lying. Do YOU believe that we should elect a potential liar to the White House as Commander in Chief?

The more interesting point is that there was nary a peep from certain leaders in the pro-life movement over Santorum’s ENDORSEMENT (youtube.com/watch?v=Y3HOb0NEJ1E ) of a pro-death candidate when there was a clear, viable pro-life candidate. Nary a peep from leaders in the pro-life movement when Santorum votes 10 times, betweeen 1995 and 2006, to fund Title X and International family planning services, including Planned Parenthood, that directly funded contraception and indirectly funded abortions. (youtube.com/watch?v=sB5pZqAenp4)

Nary a peep from the leaders in the pro-life movement when Santorum supported and endorsed radical pro-death politicians like former NJ Governor Christine Todd Whitman, or when Santorum’s Leadership PAC, America’s Foundation, financially supported candidates who have supported pro-abortion positions, including:

Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) $9,500 between 2004 & 2010
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) $10,000 in 2002
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) $10,000 in 2004

Nary a peep from leaders in the pro-life movement when Santorum voted for funding for the Legal Services Corporation, which has spent federal funds challenging parental notification laws for abortion.

Isn’t it ironic then, that the same “pro-life leaders” that are silent on the transgressions of a Catholic politician like Rick Santorum, have the nerve to call into question Ron Paul’s pro-life record, and have the nerve to give him a 50% pro-life rating simply for the fact that Ron Paul wants follow the Constitution.

So, maryboo, back to your original question regarding whether I would take Arlen Specter on his word. The answer is that while I do not trust Arlen Specter, I certainly do not trust someone who ENDORSES Arlen Specter, especially when that person claims to be a pro-life Catholic. But the simple fact remains: one of the two is lying and the issue needs to be resolved before a potential liar is elected President.

If the Republicans do not properly vett Santorum, you better believe that Team Obama will.

 

[ProVobis]

No what counts is the actual votes-none of which Paul has won.

What counts is the number of delegates the candidate has won. Ron Paul has a few of those and can use them even if he doesn’t win the nomination.

 

[kubark]

No what counts is the actual votes-none of which Paul has won.

I already explained this to you, estesbob. Let’s go over it one more time:

Not one single delegate was awarded on Tuesday. The Missouri primary was a non-binding popularity contest; the contest for delegates won’t take place for another month (By the way, Newt Gingrich failed to make it on the ballot in Missouri which goes to show you how serious he is about winning). In Iowa, not 1 of the 28 delegates has been awarded. In Colorado and Nevada, the delegates awarded to Ron Paul will far exceed the straw poll/popularity contest numbers. In Minnesota where Paul finished second, he also has a strong majority of the state convention delegates, and the process to elect delegates has also just begun, so Paul is well-organized to win the bulk of delegates there. All of your rhetoric aside, Ron Paul is very electable and anything but a “fringe candidate.”

Gingrich and Santorum have serious ballot issues that call into question whether or not they take themselves seriously, and call into question their electablility. Neither of them will be on the ballot in Virginia and neither of them have full slates of delegates in Tennessee. Santorum is not on the ballot in Washington DC and lacks full delegate slates in North Dakota, Ohio and Illinois.

When the smoke settles and the delegates are finally awarded, you will once again see that this was, is, and will be a two-way race between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul, and we are going to have to decide which of them is the true conservative.

 

[mlund]

I don’t know who to believe. Either Santorum is lying. Or Specter is lying. Do YOU believe that we should elect a potential liar to the White House as Commander in Chief?

Yes, because by your criteria everyone who has ever been contradicted by someone else without evidence is a “potential liar.”

Oh, and that includes Ron Paul, Barack Obama, and you.

Nary a peep from leaders in the pro-life movement when Santorum votes 10 times, betweeen 1995 and 2006, to fund Title X and International family planning services

Yeah, it’s horrible to actually vote to pass an annual budget when you don’t agree with everything in it. If only everyone could be like Harry Reid and simply refuse to vote to pass any budget for 3 years, letting spending automatically increase, and claim to no responsibility for what goes on.

Nary a peep from leaders in the pro-life movement when Santorum voted for funding for the Legal Services Corporation, which has spent federal funds challenging parental notification laws for abortion.

Wait, you mean the Legal Services Corporation created in the Nixon administration to make sure poor people have legal representation? The same organization once headed by Mr. William F. Harvey from Ron Paul’s own “Attorneys for Ron Paul” Coallition that he touts on his web site?

Seriously, if I needed the hypocritical spin from the Ron Paul website I can go there myself. I don’t need you to perform cut-and-paste spam from it’s talking points of the day.

• Marty Lund

 

[estesbob]

I already explained this to you, estesbob. Let’s go over it one more time:

Not one single delegate was awarded on Tuesday. The Missouri primary was a non-binding popularity contest; the contest for delegates won’t take place for another month (By the way, Newt Gingrich failed to make it on the ballot in Missouri which goes to show you how serious he is about winning). In Iowa, not 1 of the 28 delegates has been awarded. In Colorado and Nevada, the delegates awarded to Ron Paul will far exceed the straw poll/popularity contest numbers. In Minnesota where Paul finished second, he also has a strong majority of the state convention delegates, and the process to elect delegates has also just begun, so Paul is well-organized to win the bulk of delegates there. All of your rhetoric aside, Ron Paul is very electable and anything but a “fringe candidate.”

Gingrich and Santorum have serious ballot issues that call into question whether or not they take themselves seriously, and call into question their electablility. Neither of them will be on the ballot in Virginia and neither of them have full slates of delegates in Tennessee. Santorum is not on the ballot in Washington DC and lacks full delegate slates in North Dakota, Ohio and Illinois.

When the smoke settles and the delegates are finally awarded, you will once again see that this was, is, and will be a two-way race between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul, and we are going to have to decide which of them is the true conservative.

Let me explain it one more time. Paul is a fringe canidate who offers simplisitic solutions to complex problems. He has no chance whatsover of winning the nomination. Right now he is helping Romney.

 

[kubark]

Yes, because by your criteria everyone who has ever been contradicted by someone else without evidence is a “potential liar.”

Quite true.

But what we are dealing with here is a wee bit more important than a “he said, she said” incident.

What we got here (I love Strother Martin) is NOT a failure to communicate.

What we got here is a U.S. Senator publicly calling another U.S. Senator a liar.

What we got here is a pro-life, Catholic U.S. Senator who compromises his fundamental pro-life principles over a morally-questionable, constitutionally-questionable “deal” to pack the Supreme Court with pro-life judges, and then tries to talk his way out of the situation when the U.S. Senator that he made the deal with comes out publicly and asserts that the “deal” never took place.

This has much bigger implications than a innoncent “condradiction.”

Like I said, if the Republicans don’t have the good sense to resolve this issue and find out just who exactly is lying, before the nomination, then you can be rest assured that Team Obama will have a field day with it.

 

[kubark]

Let me explain it one more time. Paul is a fringe canidate who offers simplisitic solutions to complex problems. He has no chance whatsover of winning the nomination. Right now he is helping Romney.

LOL!

Ron Paul is** NOT **a fringe candidate. He offers Constitutional solutions to problems that have been made complex by corrupt policiticans whoring themselves to corrupt domestic and foreign special interests.

He has a very good chance of winning the nomination.

Right now, Romney NEEDS Ron Paul to have any chance of beating Obama.

Gingrich and Santorum are the ones who will help Obama win a second term.

 

[mlund]

What we got here is a pro-life, Catholic U.S. Senator who compromises his fundamental pro-life principles

No, we have (yet another) Ron-Paul la-la-land campaign-stump fantasy off his web site, spammed by his supporters. Newsflash - Pat Toomey lost.

If Rick backs Pat Toomey he still loses, Arlen Specter doesn’t vote for Justice Roberts or Justice Alito in committee so their confirmations fail in committee on 9-9 votes, and then he bolts the party 6 years early and everybody blames Rick Santorum for hurting the party and the movement. Quick! Let’s all get into a Delorean so we can live in that awesome timeline!

Like I said, if the Republicans don’t have the good sense to resolve this issue and find out just who exactly is lying, before the nomination, then you can be rest assured that Team Obama will have a field day with it.

Yeah, Barack Obama is definitely going to spend his money convincing people Rick Santorum isn’t a pro-life alternative.

The only people pushing this angle are Mitt Romney’s favorite proxy-warriors, the Ronulans.

• Marty Lund