Republican Primary

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Scarborough: This Romney-Paul alliance is pretty weird, isn’t it?

"Here’s the interesting thing,” McKinnon said. “It’s not just Santorum. If you go back, Ron Paul has been a devastating attack dog against first Rick Perry, then Newt Gingrich and now Santorum, spending millions of dollars with, I think, the most effective negative advertising in the whole campaign. I mean, he’s been throwing out daisy cutters, clearing the way for Mitt Romney all along. And you know, it’s a wink and a nod and never any kind of spoken deals on these sorts of things, but it’s pretty clear what’s going on. And he’s been the fullback, blocking in front of Romney this whole time.”

Read more: dailycaller.com/2012/02/23/joe-scarborough-ron-paulmitt-romney-alliance-is-bizarre/#ixzz1nEdJvHeG

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LisaA said:
They ask stupid questions that are not relevant and ignore elephants in the room. Not a SINGLE question about gas prices! A perfect opportunity to bash Obama. Of course the MSM doesn’t want that.
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Totally! The candidates can refuse to answer or craft the answers to go after obama but they don’t 🤷
 
LisaA said:
Primaries but quite honestly that’s where an individual has some chance of an impact so I don’t want to give that up. Often with the primaries are ballot measures and other elections for city/county officials. My understanding is that you don’t get to vote until the general if you don’t specify or list as Independent.

Lisa
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Our primary is coming up (March 20) and most of the commercials on the local candidates don’t specify Republican or Democrat. I guess it is up to voters to do some research.

Our village trustees are forbidden to declare Democrat or Republican. Seems it has worked pretty well. I don’t know if this ever will be a growing trend though.
 
My has this forum got some fickle posters. Bachmann to Cain to Gingrich to Santorum, sounds like an infield, unless I’ve missed someone. Now Gingrich get’s only one vote out of 38.
 
LisaA said:
OK that’s great. I’m a member of the Republican Party because it is necessary to vote in my state. That doesn’t mean that I’m tied to everything they say and do. Hopefully the old days of voting a straight ticket are over. People need to make thoughtful decisions because the future of our country is at stake.

What do you think about the potential running mates for our GOP nominee?

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The only names I hear bandied about are Marco Rubio and Rand Paul. I’d like to see Jim DeMint in that conversation as well. I actually would prefer any three of those to the current field for President.
 
romney and santorum acted like petty whiny brats

very embarassing

still hoping santorum pulls through but if he acts like this when the msm is playing gotcha how will he fare with obama? :confused:
 
Seamus_L said:
My has this country got some fickle voters. Bachmann to Cain to Gingrich to Santorum, sounds like an infield, unless I’ve missed someone. Now Gingrich get’s only one vote out of 38.
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Fixed that for you 👍
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
The only names I hear bandied about are Marco Rubio
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I have no use for Rubio after he sponsored the SOPA . Only public outrage forced him to withdraw his sponsorship. We don’t need any more foolish people who carelessly grab more power for the government. His sponsorship of the bill means only one of two things:
  1. His principles are wrong.
  2. He did not understand the bill he supported which means he is not credible nor as bright as the punditocracy would have us all believe.
Just another system guy.
 
qui_est_ce said:
I was appalled by the question on what their personal beliefs on contraception was. Gingrich’s response had John King backtracking.

I thought Newt did well in the debate, but I don’t think I could stand 4 hours of listening to his haughty voice.
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I can think of other haughty voices in the debate from time to time. Sometimes professors are hard to listen to.
 
snowpea said:
still hoping santorum pulls through but if he acts like this when the msm is playing gotcha how will he fare with obama? :confused:
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In a 1-on-1 scenario with your own base behind you instead of trying to take you out the debate structure becomes very different. Almost every angle of attack Ron Paul and Mitt Romney take against Rick Santorum is closed to Obama because he comes from the hard-left and questioning Santorum’s credentials as a conservative just isn’t going to get him anywhere.
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Nec5 said:
I have no use for Rubio after he sponsored the SOPA . Only public outrage forced him to withdraw his sponsorship. We don’t need any more foolish people who carelessly grab more power for the government. His sponsorship of the bill means only one of two things:
  1. His principles are wrong.
  2. He did not understand the bill he supported which means he is not credible nor as bright as the punditocracy would have us all believe.
Just another system guy.
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Right…can’t wait to find that perfect candidate that has never backed a bill we disagree with or held a position in his lifetime that gave us pause. We have people in a snit that the long deceased Ronald Reagan made (yes it was a HUGE) a mistake forty years ago. Had every pro life person written him off then we’d have had another term of Jimmy Carter…

Perfection is the enemy of the good. I wish more people would stop crossing off candidates entirely because of one action because we’re going to end up with Obama after tossing all of our good candidates off a cliff. I agree SOPA sounded like a well intentioned but over-reaching bill. But obvoiusly Rubio was willing to reverse when that was demonstrated.

LIsa
 
LisaA said:
Yes but he’s not running for President is he?
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No, but you made a pretty generic statement about perfection. I’ve never thought it was the enemy of good but a beacon toward the path of good. Maybe I read too much into the statement, just thought it was kind of odd.

In my mind the closest a candidate can get to perfection is the one whose spent his life not accepting lobbyist money, refused congressional retirement, casts every vote with the constitution in mind…but there isn’t one like that ever going to run…even if he did he would be unelectable…people don’t want good men to be politicians because then they wouldn’t have anything to complain about, instead they vote good politicians to be good politicians and they have all the room they want to complain.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
No, but you made a pretty generic statement about perfection. I’ve never thought it was the enemy of good but a beacon toward the path of good. Maybe I read too much into the statement, just thought it was kind of odd.

In my mind the closest a candidate can get to perfection is the one whose spent his life not accepting lobbyist money, refused congressional retirement, casts every vote with the constitution in mind…but there isn’t one like that ever going to run…even if he did he would be unelectable…people don’t want good men to be politicians because then they wouldn’t have anything to complain about, instead they vote good politicians to be good politicians and they have all the room they want to complain.
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I didn’t make this up, it’s a well known phrase and perhaps if one must flesh it out to make this clear, the point is that people who refuse to accept that, other than Jesus, perfection in anything is non-existent (spouse, candidate, child, house). The quest for perfection thus leads to missing a lot of positive elements and focusing more on the negatives. I think it’s counter productive whether we’re talking about a relationship, buying a pair of shoes or picking a candidate.

I am a real believer in the Buckley Philosophy: The most Conservative candidate who can WIN! Failure to consider that plan brought us Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. Need I say more?

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
I didn’t make this up, it’s a well known phrase and perhaps if one must flesh it out to make this clear, the point is that people who refuse to accept that, other than Jesus, perfection in anything is non-existent (spouse, candidate, child, house). The quest for perfection thus leads to missing a lot of positive elements and focusing more on the negatives. I think it’s counter productive whether we’re talking about a relationship, buying a pair of shoes or picking a candidate.

I am a real believer in the Buckley Philosophy: The most Conservative candidate who can WIN! Failure to consider that plan brought us Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. Need I say more?

Lisa
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I’m afraid that just makes todays conservatism tomorrow’s liberalism. This country isn’t getting more conservative if you haven’t noticed.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
I’m afraid that just makes todays conservatism tomorrow’s liberalism. This country isn’t getting more conservative if you haven’t noticed.
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The COUNTRY has consistently been Center Right. CONSISTENTLY. In fact more people self identify as Conservative now than during the 2008 election (maybe they grew up?).

What we do not have is the bully pulpit in the form of the mainstream media and increasingly our schools, particularly our universities constantly beat the Leftist drum. THis country made a HUGE mistake in electing Barack Obama. People who voted for him tell me he campaigned as a Centrist; and I am talking intelligent, thoughtful people who are reasonably well informed on political matters. I keep thinking they had cotton in their ears and only saw his race (historical!!!) his seemingly great oratory, and his attractive family (read The Obamas and you will learn JUST how important that family has been both in getting elected and when his numbers fall). Obama who likes to campaign but hates to govern turned everything over to the far Left and look what we got.

But the COUNTRY has not gotten less conservative, we just made a dreadful mistake and hopefully the rise of the Tea Party, the 2010 elections, and the strong objections to the HHS mandate indicate that people want to get back to the Constitution in Washington DC too…

Lisa
 
bbarrick8383 said:
I’m afraid that just makes todays conservatism tomorrow’s liberalism. This country isn’t getting more conservative if you haven’t noticed.
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There may be some truth to that. In same cases pro-status-quo is mistaken for conservatism.
 
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