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FaithofAbraham said:
I am talking about Revelation. There is only one group of people said to have adultery against God and carried away to Babylon. So the Whore is Jews unfaithful to God and taking on Gentile ways, they have always been the Whore of Babylon, in the OT and NT. Not all Jews, but those who say they are Jews but fight against God. That is the Whore.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

If you think I am wrong, tell me what you know for facts. Maybe you can show me otherwise.
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Look into the structure of Revelations.
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 The book is to be read alone. Rev.22/18 and the moment you introduce other elements of other books you counterdict the only rule the author makes.Rev.22/18 in  understanding it.
 And there is a reason!     There are inter p's in the old testament .But that will counterdict the rule in Rev.22/18 for now.
. .**I think if I mentioned little scroll ** is in order. Rev. 10/4 is all I can say.to keep it in Revelations ,and yes it is in ( plural ) And heavy on the s’s
The book is to be reveled in the end time.not to be compared to the past. walt2000
 
walt2000,

Any particular reason for continuing to add an “s” at the end of Revelation?
 
StBenMom said:
I’m going to ask you nicely to stop quoting scripture. It does nothing for those of the Christian/Catholic faith except reinforce the belief that non-Christians twist the bible around to fit their own agenda… which is PRECISELY what you are doing.
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The Quran says we need to accept the Bible too, so I won’t stop quoting it since I accept it as truth.

Quran 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
StBenMom said:
None of those scriptures you quoted mean what you say they mean. Try sticking with what you know and defend your faith from YOUR FAITH’s stand point.
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This is my faith’s standpoint. So what does this mean then if you say I have it wrong?

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 
walt2000 said:
Look into the structure of Revelations.
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 The book is to be read alone. Rev.22/18 and the moment you introduce other elements of other books you counterdict the only rule the author makes.Rev.22/18 in  understanding it.
 And there is a reason!     There are inter p's in the old testament .But that will counterdict the rule in Rev.22/18 for now.
. .**I think if I mentioned little scroll ** is in order. Rev. 10/4 is all I can say.to keep it in Revelations ,and yes it is in ( plural ) And heavy on the s’s
The book is to be reveled in the end time.not to be compared to the past. walt2000
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So who are the false Jews of the church of Satan, and who is the Whore of Babylon, in your belief?
 
walt2000 said:
Take Jew’s out of you statement ,and you have it.
this is a Christian thing .walt2000
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The false of the church of Satan, and the Whore of Babylon.

Who is the great Gentile power of the world that is Babylon and the Beast in the end, that everyone follows as a false Messiah who will bring peace to the world?
 
And don’t try to push in the past ,to foretell the future,it wont work.walt2000
 
walt2000 said:
You want the answers but you are not doing the work.walt2000
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Matthew 10:8 …freely ye have received, freely give.

Either you have some ideas or not. I’m not impressed when people bluff with “mysterious secret knowledge” when in fact they should just say I DON’T KNOW.
 
FaithofAbraham said:
Matthew 10:8 …freely ye have received, freely give.

Either you have some ideas or not. I’m not impressed when people bluff with “mysterious secret knowledge” when in fact they should just say I DON’T KNOW.
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I have been on this subject for several years now ,look to my past posts.That will answer your question.It is far from secret knowledge know one is bluffing anyone.walt2000

Apart from my bad spelling ,and poor English you will have to forgive me.walt2000
 
FaithofAbraham said:
The Quran says we need to accept the Bible too, so I won’t stop quoting it since I accept it as truth.

Quran 3:3 He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.

This is my faith’s standpoint. So what does this mean then if you say I have it wrong?

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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If you accept the Bible as the truth then why are you Muslim??? There cannot be two Truths. It’s either/or. The Bible CLEARLY states that Jesus was crucified, died, was buried and raised on the third day. That goes in DIRECT conflict with what the Qu’ran/Islam teaches, from my understanding. It’s very confusing. I was NEVER taught that the Qu’ran was the truth and/or that I should believe it(no disrespect intended…just stating facts in MY case) I was taught that Scripture is the ONLY Truth. Please clarify why Islam tells you to accept the Bible as the truth but then tells you that Jesus wasn’t crucified, He isn’t the Messiah, etc. And, please…don’t quote Scripture as your reference, OK??? Quote the Qu’ran and show me where it says to be in direct conflict. Please don’t ask me to read the Qu’ran, either. I, respectfully, will never do that. Thanks
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FaithofAbraham:
Either you have some ideas or not. I’m not impressed when people bluff with “mysterious secret knowledge” when in fact they should just say I DON’T KNOW.
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That is the same thing I am asking of you. It is better for you to say “I don’t know” than it is to twist scripture around to fit a Muslim agenda. Your “knowledge” or lack thereof, of The Holy Word of God does not impress me, either. I don’t understand why it’s OK for you to say something like that but, then, turn around and act completely the opposite.🤷
 
StBenMom said:
If you accept the Bible as the truth then why are you Muslim??? There cannot be two Truths.
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Jews also say that about the NT vs. OT.

Matthew 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
 
No. Jesus did not say that in that meaning. What He DOES say, however, is that he is the New Covenant and the New Law and, although he says to follow the 10 commandments, the commandment we are to follow above all is one that He set down: “Above all, love one another” He also said, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Light” You see? THE TRUTH. Not “one of many truths” THE TRUTH. Please stop confusing scriptural meaning.
 
StBenMom said:
No. Jesus did not say that in that meaning. What He DOES say, however, is that he is the New Covenant and the New Law and, although he says to follow the 10 commandments, the commandment we are to follow above all is one that He set down: “Above all, love one another” He also said, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Light” You see? THE TRUTH. Not “one of many truths” THE TRUTH. Please stop confusing scriptural meaning.
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The commandment we are to follow above all is one that He set down: “Love God”

Loving one another comes second.

Matthew 22:37-38 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
Sorry, I am trying to post while raising a family so excuse me if my quotes were a little off. There was a “Barbie” emergency with the dog so I had to be quick…BUT thanks for proving my point for me!👍
 
walt2000.

re: “Yes, Seven .Rev.10/4"

HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE,HO,HO,HA,HA,HE,HO,HO,HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE,HEE,HO,HA,HEE,HA,HA,HEE,HA,HO,HEE,HEE,HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE…

Thanks for starting my day off with a good laugh.
 
rstrats said:
walt2000.

re: “Yes, Seven .Rev.10/4"

HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE,HO,HO,HA,HA,HE,HO,HO,HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE,HEE,HO,HA,HEE,HA,HA,HEE,HA,HO,HEE,HEE,HA,HA,HA,HEE,HEE…

Thanks for starting my day off with a good laugh.
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It would be nice to know what kind of bush you fell out of?walt2000
 
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