Revolvers for Everyone!

[royal_archer]

May you (all of you) and your guns live happily ever after. And I will live happily ever after without one.
I hope your guns protect you and your family from getting into a fatal car accident, from getting cancer, from having a stroke or a heart attack, or any other life-threatening disease or disaster. I hope you all live forever. Because if you don’t, you can be sure that when God meets you at the gates of heaven, He will surely tell you to turn in your gun before entering. Because in heaven, you won’t have the right to carry a gun.
Now, I am through with this subject.

No guns in heaven? any proof?

Obviously we won’t need any but Guns are not just for stopping evil…

And if you are a victim of a crime please do not contact an armed police officer to help you.

 

[CPA2]

May you (all of you) and your guns live happily ever after. And I will live happily ever after without one.
I hope your guns protect you and your family from getting into a fatal car accident, from getting cancer, from having a stroke or a heart attack, or any other life-threatening disease or disaster. I hope you all live forever. Because if you don’t, you can be sure that when God meets you at the gates of heaven, He will surely tell you to turn in your gun before entering. Because in heaven, you won’t have the right to carry a gun.
Now, I am through with this subject.

I know of another woman with your sentiments BEFORE she was robbed, beaten and raped. She is now a pistol packing momma. Additionally, she is well trained in the use of a gun.

Everyone has their limits, and at some point everyone will fight back. You will fight if your children are attacked. The only question is, “Will you be dumb or smart when you fight?” I pray that I will never be in a situation where I fear for my life, or the lives of my children.

 

[Sir_Knight]

May you (all of you) and your guns live happily ever after. And I will live happily ever after without one.
I hope your guns protect you and your family from getting into a fatal car accident, from getting cancer, from having a stroke or a heart attack, or any other life-threatening disease or disaster. I hope you all live forever.

And if faced with a bigger & stronger attacker who would have been stopped with a gun during a home invasion, rape, robbery, mugging, sexual assualt, etc.; I hope that you find some other means to protect yourself AND your loved ones and that you are not one of the 800,000+ people who had to wait over an hour for help to arrive from a 911 call last year.

My wife was very much anti-gun UNTIL we had our first child. She proudly said that if need be, she would die trying to defend her child. At which point, I pointed out that if faced with a bigger & stronger attacker, she could very well die while trying to protect our child and after she was killed, the child would then be at the attacker’s mercy. That opened her eyes very quickly.

Because if you don’t, you can be sure that when God meets you at the gates of heaven, He will surely tell you to turn in your gun before entering. Because in heaven, you won’t have the right to carry a gun.

Obviously, because we will not NEED or WANT any material possession because we will be in the presence of God. We will not need a roof over our head or food in our stomach or want our CD collection of favorite musical hits or any of that stuff.

According to your logic, because we will not have these things in heaven, we should give them up now. Okay, why don’t you do that. Sell your house. Give all of your worldly possessions including all of your clothes and just live outside that way. After all, you will need to turn all of these things in before you enter heaven.

See how illogical your reasoning is?

Now, I am through with this subject.

Yes, if you are merely going to repeat your opinion and not present any biblical, historical, factual or logical reasoning to support those opinions, being through with this subject might be a good decision.

 

[wabrams]

Po I have heard a theory about why men like to carry guns. It’s because they are lacking in something else.

Sigmund Freud: “A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”

 

[chriso]

**

Excuse me if I have come across as someone who wants to see guns taken away from people. I never mean’t that. I believe that people should have the right to own a gun. And even to carry one, if that’s what you want to do. I am not for taking people’s guns away.

Thats actually very reassuring, I apologize for misunderstanding your original intent with your statements & thank you for your openmindedness in your view that I & others like me ought not be deprived of our rights.

**

I, myself , do not see the need to own or to carry a gun. I do not see the need for anyone to have to carry a gun on their person. That doesn’t mean I would like to see a law against it just because I would never do it or because I think it is not necessary.

**

I understand & sympathise with this train of thought, especially given your near death experience with the 22 round in your past. Again, I appreciate & respect your openness to not wanting to force a law banning such things for others as a result of your bad experience.

**

Guns are made to kill animals & people.

** I am not a hunter, nor is my husband, but I am not against hunting as long as people eat what they hunt. If people trophy hunt, that is their business. But I, personally, don’t like it.

Among other things, like target shooting & competitive events & so on.

**

And as far as Jesus and guns are concerned, I believe this; I believe that Jesus does not condem a person for using a gun for self defense. If you kill another person in your own self defense, it is not murder.

**

Again, I thank you for showing such objectivity & openmindedness in your views & I agree with you wholeheartedly.

**

thing that bothers me the most is the fact that people are getting to the point of feeling like they actually “need” to carry one, that they feel that threatened by society in general. I don’t feel that threatened by other people or animals, for that matter.
**

Agreed again, wholeheartedly. I presonally view it as a two fronted threat percieved by the public. On one hand you have the seriousness with which all of us (most likely) view violent crime here in the US, it seems more & more out of control & the Public Safety mechanism seems more & more tapped beyond their resources & the prosecution & sentancing effectiveness seems more & more lacking. These are all disturbing issues & the fact that more & more americans feel the need to arm themselves as a protective measure is (I think) a telling sign. We need to address these issues as a just society. However, I venture to guess the Lord wont much bless our efforts to do so as long as our hearts are so blindly hardened in this “culture of death” attitude we hold towards our unborn innocents, but thats another subject altogether.

On the second front, millions & millions of americans see the continued efforts to register, ban, confiscate, eliminate private gun ownership as a real threat. They seem to be voting with their pocketbooks in buying up firearms as fast as they can be delivered (at least over the past year since those most in favor of gun control have assumed power to a degree previously unseen in american history) this is a pretty much natural thing to some extent, want to really make someone want something? Tell folks they cant have it… Additionally, people already dont trust the government, the thoughts of the government making moves to disarm the public makes folks even less trusting. To a large degree, the increased buying activities can be blamed directly upon those who would pursue outlawing guns in the first place, if there werent the uncertainty out there, I venture to guess there’d be far fewer gun sales. I know in my personal situation, ammunition for the handgun I most carry for bear protection was unavailable for nearly a year here in alaska. The changing rules by this group of people presently holding so much power in the US made it such that one couldnt find anyone able to ship ammunition to us here in alaska. Consequently, where in the past I used to be comfortable to have a few boxes of shells on the shelf in my safe, I now view things differently, the gun is no good if I cant get bullets for it. So like many americans, I am no longer comfortable with my former stocking levels of ammunition & probably never will be so again having seen for almost a full year, no ammunition available… I was almost considering purchasing a differnent caliber handgun where the ammunition might be available simply so I could continue to operate my business and take my family fishing on the weekends and feel marginally responsible in my committment to their personal safety.

**

I try and look for the good in people and in nature. More than anything, I would hate to have to ever kill someone or something.
**

Yourr words here mirror the thought processes I’ve heard from over 99% of all gun owners I know. None of us like the thought of killing something, most of us look for the good in people and nature, however, in general, we seem to be a bit more pragmatic about where the food on our tables comes from and be willing to assume that responsibility ourselves rather than “hire it out” to the butcher shop.

**

A gun is a killing machine.

** Not something I want to have.

Again, among other things it is a killing machine, but primarily it is a tool, how it is utilized is where I believe the focus should be placed. Utilized for criminal activities ought to be punished to the full extent of the law, utliized carelessely, likewise. But responsible ownership and use chould never be curtailed. (IMHO)

Thanks again for your openmindednes and clarifications.

Chris**

 

[CPA2]

And if faced with a bigger & stronger attacker who would have been stopped with a gun during a home invasion, rape, robbery, mugging, sexual assualt, etc.; I hope that you find some other means to protect yourself AND your loved ones and that you are not one of the 800,000+ people who had to wait over an hour for help to arrive from a 911 call last year.

My wife was very much anti-gun UNTIL we had our first child. She proudly said that if need be, she would die trying to defend her child. At which point, I pointed out that if faced with a bigger & stronger attacker, she could very well die while trying to protect our child and after she was killed, the child would then be at the attacker’s mercy. That opened her eyes very quickly.

Obviously, because we will not NEED or WANT any material possession because we will be in the presence of God. We will not need a roof over our head or food in our stomach or want our CD collection of favorite musical hits or any of that stuff.

According to your logic, because we will not have these things in heaven, we should give them up now. Okay, why don’t you do that. Sell your house. Give all of your worldly possessions including all of your clothes and just live outside that way. After all, you will need to turn all of these things in before you enter heaven.

See how illogical your reasoning is?

Yes, if you are merely going to repeat your opinion and not present any biblical, historical, factual or logical reasoning to support those opinions, being through with this subject might be a good decision.

Good points! Other than God, Colt was the first man on earth to make women equal to men.

 

[ahollars]

VIRGINIA TECH MASSACRE
25 years murder-free in ‘Gun Town USA’
Crime rate plummeted after law required firearms for residents

April 19, 2007
1:52 p.m. Eastern
As the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own firearms.

In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of “Wild West” showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

By comparison, the population of Morton Grove, the first city in Illinois to adopt a gun ban for anyone other than police officers, has actually dropped slightly and stands at 22,202, according to 2005 statistics. More significantly, perhaps, the city’s crime rate increased by 15.7 percent immediately after the gun ban, even though the overall crime rate in Cook County rose only 3 percent. Today, by comparison, the township’s crime rate stands at 2,268 per 100,000.

This was not what some predicted.

In a column titled “Gun Town USA,” Art Buchwald suggested Kennesaw would soon become a place where routine disagreements between neighbors would be settled in shootouts. The Washington Post mocked Kennesaw as “the brave little city … soon to be pistol-packing capital of the world.” Phil Donahue invited the mayor on his show.
Reuters, the European news service, today revisited the Kennesaw controversy following the Virginia Tech Massacre.

Police Lt. Craig Graydon said: “When the Kennesaw law was passed in 1982 there was a substantial drop in crime … and we have maintained a really low crime rate since then. We are sure it is one of the lowest (crime) towns in the metro area.” Kennesaw is just north of Atlanta.

The Reuters story went on to report: “Since the Virginia Tech shootings, some conservative U.S. talk show hosts have rejected attempts to link the massacre to the availability of guns, arguing that had students been allowed to carry weapons on campus someone might have been able to shoot the killer.”

Virginia Tech, like many of the nation’s schools and college campuses, is a so-called “gun-free zone,” which Second Amendment supporters say invites gun violence – especially from disturbed individuals seeking to kill as many victims as possible.

Seung-Hui Cho murdered 32 and wounded another 15 before turning his gun on himself.

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

 

[TheWalsh]

This to all,

Now, I do not aspire to have the last word on the subject, but even for a life-time shooter, gun collector(modest, about 40 somewhere), hunter, and most of all, aficionado of the natural law, I want to tell you that, if you do not believe that we have the right to defend our life with what ever can come to hand, then you do not believe in the “Right to Life”. God gave us hands, and an intelligent mind, not talons, fangs, or brute strength. To deny us the freedom to use our mind, to devise substitutes for the things the beasts have, is to deny us the integrity of our nature. We invent this or that and, as it is our God-given nature, it is good. Can we abuse these otherwise indifferent things? Yes, but that goes for just about everything we do.Now that is my heavy comment. Let me move to lighter fare. I enjoy shooting. I have a God-given talent for it, and I enjoy it. I can shoot five, and sometimes ten bullets into one small hole at one-hundred yards. That’s a football field, to you non-shooters. Anything “wrong” with that? Some folks do similar things with archery. The only thing missing is the bang. I like the bang, and the smell of gunpowder hanging in the moist morning air. I also appreciate the mechanical art, of well made firearms, as the work of human hands. My hands are yours O’ Lord. Prosper the work of your hands.

 

[srlucado]

Here are some girls being brought up right…

[Note: May cause cardiac arrest among hoplophobes.]

 

[royal_archer]

This to all,

Now, I do not aspire to have the last word on the subject, but even for a life-time shooter, gun collector(modest, about 40 somewhere), hunter, and most of all, aficionado of the natural law, I want to tell you that, if you do not believe that we have the right to defend our life with what ever can come to hand, then you do not believe in the “Right to Life”. God gave us hands, and an intelligent mind, not talons, fangs, or brute strength. To deny us the freedom to use our mind, to devise substitutes for the things the beasts have, is to deny us the integrity of our nature. We invent this or that and, as it is our God-given nature, it is good. Can we abuse these otherwise indifferent things? Yes, but that goes for just about everything we do.Now that is my heavy comment. Let me move to lighter fare. I enjoy shooting. I have a God-given talent for it, and I enjoy it. I can shoot five, and sometimes ten bullets into one small hole at one-hundred yards. That’s a football field, to you non-shooters. Anything “wrong” with that? Some folks do similar things with archery. The only thing missing is the bang. I like the bang, and the smell of gunpowder hanging in the moist morning air. I also appreciate the mechanical art, of well made firearms, as the work of human hands. My hands are yours O’ Lord. Prosper the work of your hands.

But unless you are working with large projectiles over long ranges, you don’t get the pleasure of watching your projectile in flight intercepting your target with a gun like you do with a bow.

 

[markbrumbaugh]

May you (all of you) and your guns live happily ever after. And I will live happily ever after without one.
I hope your guns protect you and your family from getting into a fatal car accident, from getting cancer, from having a stroke or a heart attack, or any other life-threatening disease or disaster. I hope you all live forever. Because if you don’t, you can be sure that when God meets you at the gates of heaven, He will surely tell you to turn in your gun before entering. Because in heaven, you won’t have the right to carry a gun.
Now, I am through with this subject.

Whew!!! That was a doozie. Looks like you all handled it fine. I’ve been to busy commenting on health care to join this one. I love to shoot and hunt. I also fish. I eat what I kill.

I was however sad to learn that when I go to heaven, I will not be able to shoot anymore. I hope I can at least still fish. And I do also, hope that our guns will keep all us from getting cancer…I’d never thought of that justification before.

Mark Brumbaugh
…Lifetime NRA member, hunter, marksman, airgun afficianado, handloader.

 

[chriso]

This to all,

Now, I do not aspire to have the last word on the subject, but even for a life-time shooter, gun collector(modest, about 40 somewhere), hunter, and most of all, aficionado of the natural law, I want to tell you that, if you do not believe that we have the right to defend our life with what ever can come to hand, then you do not believe in the “Right to Life”. God gave us hands, and an intelligent mind, not talons, fangs, or brute strength. To deny us the freedom to use our mind, to devise substitutes for the things the beasts have, is to deny us the integrity of our nature. We invent this or that and, as it is our God-given nature, it is good. Can we abuse these otherwise indifferent things? Yes, but that goes for just about everything we do.Now that is my heavy comment. Let me move to lighter fare. I enjoy shooting. I have a God-given talent for it, and I enjoy it. I can shoot five, and sometimes ten bullets into one small hole at one-hundred yards. That’s a football field, to you non-shooters. Anything “wrong” with that? Some folks do similar things with archery. The only thing missing is the bang. I like the bang, and the smell of gunpowder hanging in the moist morning air. I also appreciate the mechanical art, of well made firearms, as the work of human hands. My hands are yours O’ Lord. Prosper the work of your hands.

 

[chriso]

Here are some girls being brought up right…

[Note: May cause cardiac arrest among hoplophobes.]

Outstanding!!! Thanks for the pics, what cuties!!

 

[Lycorth]

May you (all of you) and your guns live happily ever after. And I will live happily ever after without one.
I hope your guns protect you and your family from getting into a fatal car accident, from getting cancer, from having a stroke or a heart attack, or any other life-threatening disease or disaster. I hope you all live forever. Because if you don’t, you can be sure that when God meets you at the gates of heaven, He will surely tell you to turn in your gun before entering. Because in heaven, you won’t have the right to carry a gun.
Now, I am through with this subject.

Such hate. No wonder you’re an ex-Catholic.

Firearms are not for the purposes of curing disease or preventing car accidents. Apples and oranges, there.

Who cares if we don’t have guns in Heaven? We won’t need them. We won’t need Masses, rosaries, or prayer, either. We won’t be married or have any need to.

But, on earth, we must live according to the natural law. That includes self-defense, and I will support gun rights as long as guns are the most effective self-defense tool for us to have.

But, it’s best for you to be through with this subject, since you don’t have anything to offer. Cut your losses and run.

 

[petsr4ever]

Such hate. No wonder you’re an ex-Catholic.

Firearms are not for the purposes of curing disease or preventing car accidents. Apples and oranges, there.

Who cares if we don’t have guns in Heaven? We won’t need them. We won’t need Masses, rosaries, or prayer, either. We won’t be married or have any need to.

But, on earth, we must live according to the natural law. That includes self-defense, and I will support gun rights as long as guns are the most effective self-defense tool for us to have.

But, it’s best for you to be through with this subject, since you don’t have anything to offer. Cut your losses and run.

 

[petsr4ever]

Such hate. No wonder you’re an ex-Catholic.

Firearms are not for the purposes of curing disease or preventing car accidents. Apples and oranges, there.

Who cares if we don’t have guns in Heaven? We won’t need them. We won’t need Masses, rosaries, or prayer, either. We won’t be married or have any need to.

But, on earth, we must live according to the natural law. That includes self-defense, and I will support gun rights as long as guns are the most effective self-defense tool for us to have.

But, it’s best for you to be through with this subject, since you don’t have anything to offer. Cut your losses and run.

“Such hate”–what in God’s name do you mean by that? Where have I posted anything that is hateful? So, if I disagree with how you feel about guns, I am hateful? I don’t care if you have a thousand guns. I don’t like guns and I don’t need one, but I never said YOU shouldn’t have one. What, should everybody have a love of guns or they are “hateful”? It’s "hatefull to have my own opinion if it isn’t the same as your opinion? Who’s the “hateful” person here?

 

[petsr4ever]

Oh, and “no wonder I am an ex-Catholic” because I don’t like guns? Do all Catholics like and own guns? I happen to know a lot of Catholics who don’t like and who don’t own guns. I never knew that having a gun is a pre-requisite to being a Catholic. And as far as me being an ex-Catholic goes, it sure as heck hasn’t anything to do with guns. It has to do with “hypocrisy”.

 

[cynic]

Hand grenades for everyone.

Seriously, I guess there aren’t many of you that connect a lack gun laws in the US to the high homicide rate.

 

[HelenaMT]

Hand grenades for everyone.

Seriously, I guess there aren’t many of you that connect a lack gun laws in the US to the high homicide rate./QUOTE

That would be because there is no connection. The homicide rates are actually higher in the US where the gun laws are stricter (because the worse a neighborhood gets, the more lazy politicians feel they need to pass laws instead of addressing the real underlying reasons for the violence).

It’s got more to do with the culture of the area than the number of guns. The county in MT where I live has over 80% gun ownership and practically no crime at all.

 

[tr1strev]

Hand grenades for everyone.

Seriously, I guess there aren’t many of you that connect a lack gun laws in the US to the high homicide rate.

Actually the cities with the most stringent gun laws have the highest homicide rates.