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You are afraid that folks may value the advice given by those with spiritual authority over that advice provided on an internet forum by those with no spiritual authority over them?
Actually I’m not providing arguments as to whom a potential voter should cast their vote.

I am stating that it is not a sin to vote for Obama and that efforts to use the abortion issue as a political/spiritual weapon using guilt is false. I actually believe it is unethical but that’s another matter.

An individual may vote for the GOP or Obama and neither choice would be a sin.

I invite them to read Church teaching, pray, and seek council from their priest regarding the issue.
Read posters’ histories.

Talk to your priests. Why would posters not want you to trust your priests? They state that priests don’t know the teaching of the Church and could lead you astray.

Pray and read Church documents.

There is no sin in voting for a Pro-Choice Candidate given that you desagree with this stance, but through prayer and council believe there is proportionate reason to do so.

As the Bishops say “Catholics are not one-issue voters”.

That’s all I have to say on this thread.
Thank you Ringil for your Catholic answers in this regard. Peace.
 
Since people keep asking this question, I will give my father’s answer, he is a strong Democrat and a lifelong Catholic. (don’t flame me, I am repeating this.) He believes the Republicans want to take the country back to the 1890s and overturn reforms such as child labor laws, minimum wage, social security, medicare/medicaid, etc. By overturn he doesn’t mean “get rid of the waste” he means that he believes the Republicans want to zero out all of these programs as well as the EPA and other regulatory agencies and/or if the Republicans had been in power in the earlier part of the 20th century we would not have social security in the first place.

He does not believe private charity is enough to care for people. He worked his whole adult life so this is not about receiving welfare however as far back as I can remember he has put huge amounts of money into saving for retirement and long-term care b/c he is terrified of growing old and not being taken care of. Being older and without resources is frightening to him.

I think this is an unfair way to characterize all Republicans although I support social programs more than a lot of people on CAF. America is moving to a two-tiered society with income inequality but even the people here who state your fortunes are in your control are not actively wishing bad things on the poor (that I’ve noticed).
Very well said. I think that only if people believe like your father does - that the GOP is evil and wants people to starve, then they will vote for the Democrat party who wants abortion to be legal. Now I don’t mean to be insulting at all, but why do you think your father buys into the fear campaign about the GOP hook, line, and sinker? Is he just gulllible? Doesn’t he know that the GOP has been criticized from the right (i.e. Ron Paul supporters) for keeping the safety net in place? Is your father a union member? I know that the unions use propoganda to brainwash folks into believing lies about the GOP.

Ishii
 
Very well said. I think that only if people believe like your father does - that the GOP is evil and wants people to starve, then they will vote for the Democrat party who wants abortion to be legal. Now I don’t mean to be insulting at all, but why do you think your father buys into the fear campaign about the GOP hook, line, and sinker? Is he just gulllible? Doesn’t he know that the GOP has been criticized from the right (i.e. Ron Paul supporters) for keeping the safety net in place? Is your father a union member? I know that the unions use propoganda to brainwash folks into believing lies about the GOP.

Ishii
Abortion will remain legal in this country until Catholic Democrsts come to love the unborn more than they hate the Republican Party
 
With a tenure in office to date of 11 years, 16 days, Perry is the longest continuously serving current U.S. governor, and the second longest serving current U.S. governor after Terry Branstad of Iowa.
 
With a tenure in office to date of 11 years, 16 days, Perry is the longest continuously serving current U.S. governor, and the second longest serving current U.S. governor after Terry Branstad of Iowa.
As the Governor of Texas he has to balance the budget… he actually knows how to do it and is required by law to do it.

Texas is what most states would like to be like. Billions in the bank,… no state income taxes… businesses relocating to…

He has the best record, in my opinion. He checks all the boxes for me.

Although I am voting for whoever wins the nomination. My pick is Perry.
 
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In just a couple short hours four of the five remaining Republican presidential candidates will participate in the first ever Presidential Prolife Forum, televised beginning at 6:45p EST on C-SPAN and sponsored by Personhood USA.

Everyone in the nation, along with a standing room only crowd at the Hilton Ballroom in Greenville, South Carolina, will get to see pro-lifers Lila Rose, Daniel Becker, and Gualberto Garcia Jones interview GOP candidates Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum.

The only candidate not present will be Mitt Romney, who reportedly had a scheduling conflict.

You can also watch the event live-streamed here:

jillstanek.com/2012/01/tonight-televised-presidential-prolife-forum/

Fox and CNN also plan to report from the event live.
 
http://www.jillstanek.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/forum-sc-e1326920885966.png

In just a couple short hours four of the five remaining Republican presidential candidates will participate in the first ever Presidential Prolife Forum, televised beginning at 6:45p EST on C-SPAN and sponsored by Personhood USA.

Everyone in the nation, along with a standing room only crowd at the Hilton Ballroom in Greenville, South Carolina, will get to see pro-lifers Lila Rose, Daniel Becker, and Gualberto Garcia Jones interview GOP candidates Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum.

The only candidate not present will be , who reportedly had a scheduling conflict.

You can also watch the event live-streamed here:

jillstanek.com/2012/01/tonight-televised-presidential-prolife-forum/

Fox and CNN also plan to report from the event live.
Thank you! I will be watching!
 
Well if he leaves, at least he informed the nation during the FOX debate this wk that South Carolina is at war with the United States of America’s government.
 
This hurts Santorum because it fuels momentum for Newt at a critical time in the SC race.
 
I wonder if Newt promised him a cabinet position in exchange for this timely drop-out. He would be Secretary of … um,…I forgot. Oops.
 
huge boost? Eh, Perry has been in the bottom tier for ages. At most he gives Gingrich his whopping 5% and I don’t think all of the Perry supporters will go with Gingrich.
 
And tonight ABC is airing an exclusive interview with Newt Gingrich’s ex-wife, that his daughters have asked the network not to show. Hopefully this will be a direct hit on the Gingrich campaign.
 
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