Rick Santorum Announces Presidential Run

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Oh, Scott Walker is definitely friendly to workers / labor. Please do not conflate support for public sector unions (and the sweet deals they get) with being pro-worker. Requiring that public state employees contribute to their retirement and healthcare like all the non-government workers is not anti-worker, it is fairness. In fact, it is pro-worker. Allowing government workers the ability to collectively bargain, when they can just tax the citizens to increase salary, healthcare benefits, and pensions is the height of fiscal irresponsibility and greed. The reason why Scott Walker is a top candidate for president is because he opposed this nonsense and changed the laws to stop this.

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I like private sector unions too! some of those sweet deal that unions have gotten us include getting rid of the 14 hour work day (which seems to be creeping back as unions are under assault) and giving us weekends to spend with our families. Safety standards, environmental protection- those sweet deals benefit families and we need candidates to recognize and commend this.
An 8 hour workday is much more family friendly than a 14 hour work day.👍
I hope that the Republican party comes to support family values that include safe workplaces and reasonable working hours and that Democrats come to support life in all of its stages.
 
Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, Minneapolis, Chicago? What on earth does that mean? I’m not sure what you are implying. But you did say “those groups”. So just by some long shot chance if what you mean are that inner city African American voters are going to vote for an ultra conservative neurosurgeon in a general election just because of his race or Latino voters will vote for Cruz just because of his or his last name and not consider their positions on issues, I give voters in “those groups” a bit more credit than than that. Jews and single women too.
Why not? The left has spent an enormous amount of time and energy on identity politics.
 
I like private sector unions too! some of those sweet deal that unions have gotten us include getting rid of the 14 hour work day (which seems to be creeping back as unions are under assault) and giving us weekends to spend with our families. Safety standards, environmental protection- those sweet deals benefit families and we need candidates to recognize and commend this.
An 8 hour workday is much more family friendly than a 14 hour work day.👍
I hope that the Republican party comes to support family values that include safe workplaces and reasonable working hours and that Democrats come to support life in all of its stages.
Cheers
 
I love that Santorum is talking about revitalizing the manufacturing sector and putting American workers first. A Republican who gets it! Quite a field though.
 
I love that Santorum is talking about revitalizing the manufacturing sector and putting American workers first. A Republican who gets it! Quite a field though.
I would hope this means figuring out a way to get american manufacturing BACK to the United States and far far away from Communist China and their shoddy work practices.
 
I like private sector unions too! some of those sweet deal that unions have gotten us include getting rid of the 14 hour work day (which seems to be creeping back as unions are under assault) and giving us weekends to spend with our families. Safety standards, environmental protection- those sweet deals benefit families and we need candidates to recognize and commend this.
An 8 hour workday is much more family friendly than a 14 hour work day.👍
I hope that the Republican party comes to support family values that include safe workplaces and reasonable working hours and that Democrats come to support life in all of its stages.
Since when are Republicans opposed to 8 hour work day / reasonable work hours and safe work places??? The Democratic party is always talking about its support for “working families.” Maybe you should think about the excessive tax burden that the Democratic party supports which forces families to have two full time incomes just to keep up. Excessive taxation forcing everyone to work is not family values in the least, and do I need to bring up the skyrocketing utility bills courtesy of liberal Democrat “green” energy initiatives and opposition to coal, etc., which hit working class families particularly hard ?

The 8 hour workday, safe workplace and other worker rights are now enshrined in state laws by now. Unions, while instrumental in helping bring about those reforms in the late 19th / early to mid 20th century is no longer necessary for their survival. You also did not address my points about public sector unions and collective bargaining. Do you think a union should be able to bargain with government which just has to raise taxes on everyone else to meet the demands the union is making? Do you think public workers should contribute to their health care insurance and pensions just like everyone else in the private sector does?

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Did you have to bring up the Super Bowl? All they had to do was give the ball to Marshawn Lynch. But no…

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Well no, what the Seahawks should have done is a play action, with Russell Wilson bootlegging and then running for the endzone. If he couldn’t get to the endzone, he would throw it away instead.

I take it you’re a Seahawks fan?
 
Well no, what the Seahawks should have done is a play action, with Russell Wilson bootlegging and then running for the endzone. If he couldn’t get to the endzone, he would throw it away instead.

I take it you’re a Seahawks fan?
Forget about some fancy play action by Russel Wilson. All they had to do was Hand. It. Off. To. Marshawn. Lynch. and they win the superbowl for the second straight time and be in a good position to make history as a three-peat.

:banghead:

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Rick Santorum: Congress Needs To Stand Up To The Supreme Court & Tell Them They Are Wrong On Gay Marriage.
Santorum told Gibson that the Supreme Court is not the final say on gay marriage, pointing out that the congress stand up to the Supreme Court and pass a new law. Santorum believes the biggest problem with marriage today are children being raised without fathers and goes on to say we need to focus on the impact growing up without a dad has on children.
radio.foxnews.com/2015/06/01/rick-santorum-congress-needs-to-stand-up-to-the-supreme-court-tell-them-they-are-wrong-on-gay-marriage/
 
I like private sector unions too! some of those sweet deal that unions have gotten us include getting rid of the 14 hour work day (which seems to be creeping back as unions are under assault) and giving us weekends to spend with our families. Safety standards, environmental protection- those sweet deals benefit families and we need candidates to recognize and commend this.
An 8 hour workday is much more family friendly than a 14 hour work day.👍
I hope that the Republican party comes to support family values that include safe workplaces and reasonable working hours and that Democrats come to support life in all of its stages.
Is there any backup that 14 hour work days are coming back? Last I knew, it was a problem for some to have a 30 hour work week. I can find back up for that.
 
Is there any backup that 14 hour work days are coming back? Last I knew, it was a problem for some to have a 30 hour work week. I can find back up for that.
There is no back up Pathfinder. The idea that the Democratic Party is the obstacle to sinister Republican plans to usher in a 14 hour work day, re-legalize child labor and eliminate safety standards in the work place is just a strawman. And a shameful one at that.

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pbs.org/newshour/updates/rick-santorum-believe/

A few days ago PBS put out a piece on how Rick Santorum stands on 10 different issues.

It seems rather straightforward and not an opinion piece IMO, though Santorum’s own site would probably elaborate on all of them and add some others.
Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal are going to be announcing their candidacies this week. That brings the number of candidates to eleven (I think). Maybe a bit too many.

Ishii
 
Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal are going to be announcing their candidacies this week. That brings the number of candidates to eleven (I think). Maybe a bit too many.

Ishii
Sooner or later, they’ll be dropping like flies. Probably after Iowa, or maybe after the debates. Personally, I don’t like how Fox is choosing only the top 10 people in the polls.

I heard an idea somewhere that maybe Fox should ask the questions and pre-record the candidates’ answers. I also heard another idea of having two different debates, with candidates being drawn to determine which day they are debating. I like these two ideas.
pbs.org/newshour/updates/rick-santorum-believe/

A few days ago PBS put out a piece on how Rick Santorum stands on 10 different issues.

It seems rather straightforward and not an opinion piece IMO, though Santorum’s own site would probably elaborate on all of them and add some others.
Yes, nice to read an unbiased piece on Rick Santorum.
 
Sooner or later, they’ll be dropping like flies. Probably after Iowa, or maybe after the debates. Personally, I don’t like how Fox is choosing only the top 10 people in the polls.

I heard an idea somewhere that maybe Fox should ask the questions and pre-record the candidates’ answers. I also heard another idea of having two different debates, with candidates being drawn to determine which day they are debating. I like these two ideas.
I don’t know - I think there has to be some kind of standard for who they allow to participate in the debates. If they have to allow everyone regardless of level of support then it becomes a circus. You can get a lot of kooks running for president with no chance whatsoever to win.

I think 7 or 8 participants is enough. Like I have said, the 8 candidates would cover all the different wings of the GOP - establishment, libertarian, social conservative, etc. If Rick Santorum has little to no support then why should he be entitled to participate in a debate? Because of what he did in 2012? That doesn’t make sense. So if it means Rick Perry or Santorum or Donald Trump does not get to be in the debate, so be it.

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I don’t know - I think there has to be some kind of standard for who they allow to participate in the debates. If they have to allow everyone regardless of level of support then it becomes a circus. You can get a lot of kooks running for president with no chance whatsoever to win.

I think 7 or 8 participants is enough. Like I have said, the 8 candidates would cover all the different wings of the GOP - establishment, libertarian, social conservative, etc. If Rick Santorum has little to no support then why should he be entitled to participate in a debate? Because of what he did in 2012? That doesn’t make sense. So if it means Rick Perry or Santorum or Donald Trump does not get to be in the debate, so be it.

Ishii
Making sure Donald Trump took part regardless of his poll standing, would be marvelously entertaining though :hmmm:
 
Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal are going to be announcing their candidacies this week. That brings the number of candidates to eleven (I think). Maybe a bit too many.

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There’s even too many "Rick"s (you can only vote for one*).

** In Chicago, where I was born … this is considered sweetly naive.* ;)😃

Actually there are quite a number of advantages to this big field. I consider it like “March Madness” at this point (the 64+ teams that begin the NCAA basketball tournament).

Those first games are very exciting, even though many of the small schools are considered to have no chance to win the whole thing. One of the best games of this spring was UC Irvine (with its 7’6" center!) playing traditional power Louisville down to the last second in the first round IMO.

Very soon the field is thinned (in both events, primaries, NCAA) and while getting there is still much of the “fun” … a champion is crowned eventually.

With so many candidates, the GOP’s “enemies” cannot concentrate fire so easily on just one candidate. For instance, if they ramp up a big campaign against, say, Jeb Bush (not officially even running yet) … they could waste a lot of time and money.

At this point, most of the media still predicts a Hillary coronation, and so Hillary is catching flak from many of the GOP candidates directly.

I did get a laugh out of some media liberals’ comment that it looked like a GOP “clown car” (for those readers not familiar with the old circuses, a staple joke was to have a clown drive a tiny car around the ring, stop above a trap door, get out, and be followed by a seemingly never ending chain of clowns “coming from the car”).

http://media.caranddriver.com/image...ure-car-and-driver-photo-386399-s-450x274.jpg

Candidates will drop out after each primary … but before they do, many may take a swing at important issues with more courage than usual as they try to hit that home run that keeps them alive. This is good for our country IMO.

I’m already enthused that (for me) there are more candidates who come closer to my views than in the past 8 years, and maybe 16 or 20! Some are saying that the GOP has “a strong bench” (slang for backup candidates if the “leader” falters). And that the DNC so far has not much to back up a Hillary flop or departure.🤷

usnews.com/opinion/blogs/lara-brown/2015/03/27/democrats-thin-bench-could-hurt-2016-senate-chances

*** - “strong/weak bench” is also applied to 2016 Senate Candidates.
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As this is a Santorum thread … in his week or so of candidacy, he’s put a lot of interesting views on the table and has addressed a wide array of issues. Some candidates opt to be mysterious (and sometimes that works … Obama 2008 was like that … he was so vague per specifics, one could imagine that he agreed with them in the meantime). Others are very specific with position papers on everything. Santorum is more of the latter so far.
 
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