RINOS and NEVER TRUMPERS

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Voting for Joe is not voting for the worst evil of our time. But Trump’s undermining of our democracy is.
Since Trump is not undermining our democracy in any way anyone can actually name, and since “Joe” is radically pro-abortion and wants to raise my taxes to pay for them, I think the choice is clear for a Catholic who does not want to support the worst evil since the holocaust.
 
MATTHEWS: What is ban – how do you ban abortion? How do you actually do it?

TRUMP: Well, you know, you go back to a position like they had where people will perhaps go to illegal places –

Great pro-life example.
So, for one poorly thought out answer, you’ll destroy the mission of the Little Sisters of the Poor and promote abortions abroad?
 
I guess the “American experiment” according to the Knoxville News does not include being able to criticize the liberal press or government functionaries who commit crimes? But forcing religious organizations to provide abortifacients against their religious beliefs is all part of the “American experiment” to be preserved?

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I guess the “American experiment” according to the Knoxville News does not include being able to criticize the liberal press or government functionaries who commit crimes? But forcing religious organizations to provide abortifacients against their religious beliefs is all part of the “American experiment” to be preserved?

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The American experiment certainly allows criticism. It does not, however, include a wholesale dismissal of news media when it becomes critical of the wrong people. As for the Little Sisters, insurance companies via employers paid for contraceptives for Catholics for decades. It’s a non-issue that’s become a dog whistle.
 
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Voting for Joe is not voting for the worst evil of our time. But Trump’s undermining of our democracy is.
Since Trump is not undermining our democracy in any way anyone can actually name,
You mean in any way that you want to admit.
and since “Joe” is radically pro-abortion…
That is a falsehood.
and wants to raise my taxes to pay for them…
He might want to raise your taxes, but there is absolutely no indication that he wants to raise them to pay for abortions.
I think the choice is clear for a Catholic who does not want to support the worst evil since the holocaust.
We have had legalized abortion for 47 years. During that time we have had Democratic administrations and Republican administrations. Some of them said they were for abortion rights. Some of them said they were for making abortion illegal. But in all that time, there has been absolutely no correlation between the abortion rate and what the administration’s policy on abortion was. If there is evil in abortion (and there is) that evil resides in the women who choose to have their baby killed, and the doctors who do it for them. I find it odd that all the vitriol is directed at Democratic policitians who never aborted a single baby or never performed one, and yet when it comes to the primary responsible parties - the women choosing abortion, …crickets. It makes one wonder if this abortion criticism is really just a cover for the real reason for disliking Democrats, that being their policies on taxes, regulation, immigration, and civil rights.
 
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Let’s see. Trump is not prolife because he doesn’t support Obamacare, doesn’t ensure housing to transgender people, (how do you do that?) doesn’t espouse providing illegal aliens with health coverage. But Biden, who wants to do all of those things and cause religious objectors to provide abortions to those who want them, is prolife?

So very 1984.
 
Let’s see. Trump is not prolife because he doesn’t support Obamacare, doesn’t ensure housing to transgender people, (how do you do that?) doesn’t espouse providing illegal aliens with health coverage. But Biden, who wants to do all of those things and cause religious objectors to provide abortions to those who want them, is prolife?

So very 1984.
I guess it’s 1984 unless you understand Catholic teaching.
 
It does not, however, include a wholesale dismissal of news media
He doesn’t do that. He does call out those Democrat propagandists in the media who falsify the news.
As for the Little Sisters, insurance companies via employers paid for contraceptives for Catholics for decades. It’s a non-issue that’s become a dog whistle.
So the Little Sisters of the Poor and other Catholic charities are “dogs” ? Keep in mind, they took it all the way to the Supreme Court because Obama was forcing them to approve of the insurance companies’ paying for abortion.

Obama is considerably more clever than you give him credit for.
You mean in any way that you want to admit.
Actually, I don’t. But you can tell us how, precisely, Trump has “undermined democracy”.
He might want to raise your taxes, but there is absolutely no indication that he wants to raise them to pay for abortions.
He wants to raise my taxes. He wants the government to pay for abortions. Therefore, he intends to raise my taxes to pay for abortions (among other things, of course)
I find it odd that all the vitriol is directed at Democratic policitians who never aborted a single baby or never performed one
They’re as guilty as the doctors who wield the knife.
. It makes one wonder if this abortion criticism is really just a cover for the real reason for disliking Democrats,
I won’t deny that I also oppose their desire to raise taxes, have open borders, pay for illegals’ healthcare, to start wars, to destroy girls’ sports, to support America’s enemies (like the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran) to weaponize powerful arms of the government to oppress dissent, and other things.

But I dropped out of the Dem party before it supported those things, but supported abortion.

Don’t hide behind a professed desire to punish the women to justify supporting abortion.
 
guess it’s 1984 unless you understand Catholic teaching.
Are you really saying the Church requires that the government ensure housing to transgender people, that it pays the healthcare of people illegally here, that the Church supports Obamacare?
Go ahead and prove it, and not by twisting some general statement. Be specific.
 
Trump has done nothing to keep me from voting. He has funded our local testing facilities for Covid. He has ensured income to people who are out of work here. He has ensured payment of medical treatment for Covid. What do you want him to do in addition to that to keep me from getting Covid?
 
We have had legalized abortion for 47 years. During that time we have had Democratic administrations and Republican administrations.
In the amount of time since Roe: there have been
5 Republican presidents.

And 3 democrats.

47 years have passed, and on the federal level abortion laws have not changed significantly.

In those 47 years Democrats held the presidency for 20 years.

Less than half.
 
Almost every single dictator that has came to power, uses the phrase “for the common good”
 
Almost every single dictator that has came to power, uses the phrase “for the common good”
So that means the phrase and concept are evil? Interesting take on American history if that’s the case…
 
if you think that happened because of “progressives,” you haven’t been paying attention.
All those garbage cities are ran by “prgressives”. If you have to watch where you step because their may be human poop on the sidewalk, it is a city ran by the democrats
 
He calls out any media outlets that describe he and his actions negatively.
No he doesn’t. The left media attacks him all day, every day. He does not reciprocate in kind, though he does occasionally. I have never yet heard him criticize Fox for having liberals on, even liberals who attack him. The difference is that others get to speak as well.

And why should he not be able to express himself about the media? Is he uniquely to be deprived of freedom of speech? Harry Truman offered to punch newsmen in the nose. Was that okay?
 
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Yes, the phrase the common good is always used to give government more power. Always.
 
how about provide you as an employer with the same kind of tests that he has access to
 
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