Romney: Individual Mandate "Is A Tax"

[gilliam]

(CBS News) Two days after his top adviser insisted otherwise, Mitt Romney on Wednesday told CBS News chief political correspondent Jan Crawford that President Obama’s individual mandate - upheld last week by the Supreme Court - is “a tax.”

“The Supreme Court has spoken, and while I agreed with the dissent, that’s taken over by the fact that the majority of the court said it’s a tax, and therefore it is a tax. They have spoken. There’s no way around that,” the presumptive GOP presidential nominee told Crawford in an exclusive interview, referring to the court’s 5-4 ruling that largely upheld the president’s signature health care law, with the individual mandate as a tax.

“I said that I agreed with the dissent, and the dissent made it very clear that they felt it was unconstitutional,” Romney continued. “But the dissent lost - it’s in the minority.”

cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57466432-503544/romney-individual-mandate-is-a-tax/?tag=exclsv

 

[ProVobis]

Does he admit to raising taxes in Massachusetts then or not? He seems to be confused.

 

[_Abyssinia]

IRS collects taxes and 6500 are being employed to collect ObamaTax

 

[_Abyssinia]

Does he admit to raising taxes in Massachusetts then?

Taxes were not raised in Massachusetts under Romney to pay for RomneyCare. They were raised later by a Democrat governor. RomneyCare did not cut Medicare either, like Obama cut $500 billion from

 

[ProVobis]

Taxes were not raised in Massachusetts under Romney.

But if he approved the mandate and now he calls the individual mandate a tax, he effectively calls what he did a tax. Just trying to use some logic here. Maybe the guy should have stopped talking while he was ahead.

 

[_Abyssinia]

But if he approved the mandate and now he calls the individual mandate a tax, he effectively calls what he did a tax. Just trying to use some logic here.

How can RomneyCare mandate be a tax when it did not create any new taxes and did not raise taxes?

I have not heard of IRS enforcing RomneyCare tax in Massachusetts

 

[irishpatrick]

But if he approved the mandate and now he calls the individual mandate a tax, he effectively calls what he did a tax. Just trying to use some logic here. Maybe the guy should have stopped talking while he was ahead.

He did not create a new tax, and he did not have the SC declare a tax for MA, as it has done for the USA.

 

[_Abyssinia]

RomneyCare is a state plan, and America is a federalist country. If you do not like the health care, you can move to another state. You do not get that ability with ObamaTax

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

RomneyCare is a state plan, and America is a federalist country. If you do not like the health care, you can move to another state. You do not get that ability with ObamaTax

Well, you can move to a different country. It is a move that is being contemplated by lots of folks.

nytimes.com/2010/04/26/us/26expat.html?_r=1
dailyreckoning.com/ten-benefits-of-expatriation-part-ii/
panamalaw.org/how_many_people_expatriate_from_the_USA.html

Even now, the US is looking at imposing laws FORBIDDING the expatriation of US citizens? Ever hear of the Berlin Wall? It was not designed to keep people out. It was built to keep people IN!!! This administration is looking at implementing policies to prevent people from leaving. They’ve already suggested revokation of your US passport if you owe back taxes. Wanna take a trip to the Bahamas? Not if you own the Sheriff of Nottingham you don’t.

 

[Iron_Donkey]

But if he approved the mandate and now he calls the individual mandate a tax, he effectively calls what he did a tax. Just trying to use some logic here. Maybe the guy should have stopped talking while he was ahead.

Nah, the state one is still a penalty because no judge has made a stupid ruling about it yet. Basically, Romney is saying he respects the court even if he thinks it’s wrong.

 

[Lost_and_Found_1]

I hope this helps explain the difference between the two health care plans.

mittromneycentral.com/resources/romneycare/

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Taxes were not raised in Massachusetts under Romney to pay for RomneyCare. They were raised later by a Democrat governor. RomneyCare did not cut Medicare either, like Obama cut $500 billion from

Wrong, the tax penalty was part of Romney Care mandate from the beginning. Without the tax, the mandate just would not work.

Romney is wrong when he calls Obama’s penalty a tax and not the one he signed into law in Massachusetts.

The tax is a penalty for those who don’t have insurance, here in Massachusetts and in Obama Care.

Jim

 

[Jeanne_S]

Well, you can move to a different country. It is a move that is being contemplated by lots of folks

Costa Rico is REAL nice

 

[Nine_Two]

But if he approved the mandate and now he calls the individual mandate a tax, he effectively calls what he did a tax. Just trying to use some logic here. Maybe the guy should have stopped talking while he was ahead.

He said he called it a tax because the Supreme Court ruled that it legally is a tax. He also said he disagreed with the ruling, but that nonetheless what they say goes.

 

[Jeffrey]

Have to do more research but I heard that the* Caymen Islands is nice.*

Scott_Lafrance;9484134:

Well, you can move to a different country. It is a move that is being contemplated by lots of folks

Costa Rico is REAL nice

 

[ringil]

IRS collects taxes and 6500 are being employed to collect ObamaTax

Hence the new and improved name OBAMATAX!!!

 

[Cider]

How can RomneyCare mandate be a tax when it did not create any new taxes and did not raise taxes?

I have not heard of IRS enforcing RomneyCare tax in Massachusetts

No the IRS isn’t because the IRS doesn’t collect states taxes. The Massachusetts Dept of Revenue is who is collecting the tax from people who don’t buy the minimum required insurance coverage in Romneycare.

 

[Jeffrey]

I am beginning to feel the need for civil disobedience.

IRS collects taxes and 6500 are being employed to collect ObamaTax

 

[tm30]

I don’t believe for one minute that Romney, or anyone else in the GOP, will try to repeal this monstrosity. Politicians serve mammon, not people. This is like being rewarded a credit card with no limits, which gets billed to some jamoke on the other side of town. The GOP may talk about repealing it, but, like their brethren on the left, they have visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads, now that SCOTUS has given the political elite a mega-steroid injection of legislative power.

The silver-lining spin I’ve seen coming out of “reputable” Catholic blogs is disheartening in its naiveté. We are going to get rolled, regardless of who’s in power.

 

[austenbosten]

I don’t believe for one minute that Romney, or anyone else in the GOP, will try to repeal this monstrosity. Politicians serve mammon, not people. This is like being rewarded a credit card with no limits, which gets billed to some jamoke on the other side of town. The GOP may talk about repealing it, but, like their brethren on the left, they have visions of sugarplums dancing in their heads, now that SCOTUS has given the political elite a mega-steroid injection of legislative power.

The silver-lining spin I’ve seen coming out of “reputable” Catholic blogs is disheartening in its naiveté. We are going to get rolled, regardless of who’s in power.

I respect and empathize with your cynicism, however it’s better to elect people who may or may not steer America away from the edge of a cliff, rather than the ones who are hell-bent to floor it all the way off the cliff towards the ravine.