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stevegravy
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Some peoples reading skills leave a lot to be desired. No one said Carville is fanning flames of class warfare. I believe he developed the marketing scheme that Obama campaign has adopted. Carville 6-8 months ago on one of the talking head shows he posit, that the only path to victory for Obama, was to create a class divide pitting the middle class against the rich. Not exactly his words but he kept up the, “It’s the middle class stupid” meme. Of course his interlocutor kept bleating his famous, “It’s the economy stupid” Clinton theme. But, Carville said no Obama has to stay away from that and focus on the resentment of rich people. Obama cannot run on his record but has to paint Romney as evil.
No but Obama does with his, ”You didn’t build that.” The complicity of the MSM harping on about Romney saying his message will not resonate with the non-income tax paying voters so he wasn’t worried about them. Pretending that is contempt. Oh well, “Ain’t that America ……”
No I think admiration/support/contentment goes opposite of jealousy.
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Alan55
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The sad truth is that no one, Democratic or Republican, has any idea where Romney stands on the issue of abortion. When running for office in Massachusetts, he was strongly pro-choice. Now he’s strongly pro-life. One day he says he’d permit abortions for rape or incest or to protect the health of the mother. The next day, his campaign walks back that comment and says that he didn’t mean what he said and that he’s against abortion under all circumstances.
If you can peer into Romney’s mind and heart, perhaps you can tell us all what Romney’s true position. However, you cannot believe what he says on the subject, because he’s adopted just about every position possible when it suited his political purposes. However, to most on CA Forums, being a flip-flopper on the abortion issue is better than being consistently pro-choice. That is, the devil you don’t know is better than the devil you know.
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Alan55
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People will vote to re-elect President Obama because he gives them “free stuff like mobile phones, food stamps, more welfare”? To be honest, I’ll vote for President Obama because of his policies and because Romney appears to want to give “free stuff” to the wealthy rather than caring for the rest of Americans. I give the American people a lot more credit than you do. They see through the smoke-and-mirrors of plutocrats like Romney who have presided over a transfer of wealth from average Americans to the wealthy.
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seekerz
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Thanks for the corrections, but they might sit better if you had not tried to make “resonate” a synonym for something Romney*** actually said ***in that ‘secret’ tape.
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seekerz
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It’s called the new “get out the vote” strategy (now that the original one has run into some legal snags because of a firm that is now accused of voter fraud). What is that strategy? Accuse your opponent’s supporters of wanting “free stuff”, trivialize their reasons for supporting your opponent, rationalize why your message doesn’t “resonate” with them…that should get them all fired up to vote -
-*** for your opponent***! Works every time, trust me.
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Tampa_Dave
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The American voting electorate contains many lemmings who will vote for the candidate who gives them the most. That, of course, is usually the Democratic candidate. Romney is trying to see that the government takes less from everyone so more people can actually keep what they have or earn. He will preserve the safety net, as will Obama, but I see his candidacy in a more positive light. Romney wants to empower everyone.
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_Abyssinia
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Romney has a pro life record as governor so it is not true to say it is not know where he stands. Somebody who is pro abortion does not pass pro life bills and try to defend the conscience rights of Catholics hospitals as he did in MA
Obama supports inrestricted aboriton, has tried to illegally push abortion in Kenya and funds the UN population fund promoting forced abortion in China
Romney has said he is pro life, has a pro life record to back it up and Paul Ryan is pro life
There is no comparison. I see the reasoning of trying to make out Romney is not pro life as trying to make onself feel better about supporting the most pro abortion president in history. If you make yourself believe that Romney is not truly pro life that gives an excuse in some peoples minds to support Obama because if you make yourself believe they are both pro abortion then it does not matter who you vote for: it is not true
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LisaA
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Sorry but your human pretzel imitation is lacking in facts. As a Catholic you cannot in good conscious vote for the most militant PRO ABORTION president in history on the lame theory that you aren’t quite sure about Romney’s position.
Even if you can’t quite figure out Romney’'s pro life stance, the Republican platform’s pro-life stance and Paul Ryan’s pro-life stance you can be assured of Obama’s strong PRO ABORTION stance.
There is no equivocating, no change other than to become more militantly pro abortion and more supportive of the abortion lobby. Did you notice the cast of characters featured at the Democrat Convention? Was there any question about THEIR stance on abortion?
So to say you are voting for Obama “because of his policies” leads me to the conclusion that you are as pro ABORTION as is he.
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seekerz
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Romney may or may not be pro-life, that still does not make him a better candidate for president in my estimation. Saying you’re against abortion (even considering that it might have become true since you last accepted it as allowable), helps the unborn how exactly?
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LisaA
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Wow that’s interesting revisionist history. And to which plutocrats do you refer? Who’s done better under Obama, the rich, many of whom are making a killing in the stock market or the poor and middle class who have seen their assets and incomes drop like a rock in the past four years? How 'bout that four years of record unemployment? Record LOW rates of growth? Record deficits and debt? Who’s going to be hurt by Obama’s policies of transferring billions to his donor base through “green energy” loans, kickbacks and buy offs to union BOSSES, not union members, many of who are suffering under Obama’s anti business, anti natural resources policies?
None so blind as those who will not see…if it interferes with the fairy tale of Democrat politics.
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Tampa_Dave
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Say what you really feel, LisaA. Don’t pull any punches!
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LisaA
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Not just me…here’s a recent study of incomes dropping more during Obama’s “recovery” than during the “recession.”Say what you really feel, LisaA. Don’t pull any punches!
sentierresearch.com/pressreleases/Sentier_Household_Income_Trends_Press_Release_August2012_09_25_12.pdf
Yes the poor and middle class are doing SO much better under Mr Obama…NEVER have we seen such drops in median income.
I like sticking to the facts
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Tampa_Dave
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I’m in your corner. I support the Romney ticket 100%.Not just me…here’s a recent study of incomes dropping more during Obama’s “recovery” than during the “recession.”
sentierresearch.com/pressreleases/Sentier_Household_Income_Trends_Press_Release_August2012_09_25_12.pdf
Yes the poor and middle class are doing SO much better under Mr Obama…NEVER have we seen such drops in median income.
I like sticking to the facts
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seekerz
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Talking of fairy tales…how did that ‘trickle down’ thing work for us in the last decade or so? That’s the missing chapter before the discussion of “record unemployment”, decreased assets etc…I mean, all that trickling increased incomes and gave us a rock solid economy before Obama’s election, right?
I do so love a happy ending…um, the last time we ‘trickled’ as policy that’s what we got right?
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Tampa_Dave
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What we have is the mess Obama has left us. He entered his first term with promises of halving the deficit (reduction of approximately $4.5 trillion). Instead, he has increased the deficit by $6 trillion. Is that how “trickling up” works under Democratic economic theories?
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seekerz
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Uh, uh, I asked for the ‘happy ending’ that Trickle Down left us - that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Obama.
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LisaA
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More revisionist history. The economy was FINE until the Democrats came in in 07. Remember when President Bush was trying to rein in Freddy and Fanny but good ol’ DEMOCRAT Barney Frank stood in his way and bellowed they were still good investments right before the implosion.
I don’t know about you but I’d LOVE to go back to the Bush era of low unemployment, prosperity, rising incomes and asset values.
Too bad Democrat policies ruined it.
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seekerz
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Oh, now it’s Congress’ fault that the economy imploded in ‘08? So why is it not the do-nothing Congress’ fault that the recovery has not been more robust?
You can’t change the rules in the middle of the game: if the president is who must bear the blame for a bad economy, then let’s compare Bush and Obama. If it’s Congress, then let’s compare the '06-'08 one to the '08 -'10 one and the '10 -'12 one.
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BroomWagon
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Look at France, 75% tax rates to some of the rich.
I also know of a Tunisian who set up his own garage here in the US. He lived in France before and he said setting up these kinds of small businesses was difficult to do if not impossible.
I also know of a Tunisian who set up his own garage here in the US. He lived in France before and he said setting up these kinds of small businesses was difficult to do if not impossible.
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