Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid

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It’s consistent with his longstanding outlook of not spending massive amounts of taxpayers’ money and not putting American lives at risk interfering in other countries. Whether you think that outlook is good or bad, it certainly is more popular among Republicans (and probably the rest of the electorate) than it was back in 2003 when Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq.
 
Digitonomy said:
It’s consistent with his longstanding outlook of not spending massive amounts of taxpayers’ money and not putting American lives at risk interfering in other countries. Whether you think that outlook is good or bad, it certainly is more popular among Republicans (and probably the rest of the electorate) than it was back in 2003 when Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq.
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I don’t think it has so much to do with taxpayer money as it does with Pakistans right to exist without worrying about a foreign superpower running secret military exercises on their soil.

Ron Paul goes by the book. What you see is what you get. If you have any questions as to what kind of decisions he would make in any given circumstance, read the Constitution.
 
You lose wars by not pursuing the enemy. Paul should know that. He approved of us going after al-Qaeda (when he didn’t side with the Truthers) … we have to go after al-Qaeda where they are, not where we wish they were.
 
Either Ron Paul is insane, or his presidential bids aren’t really to get into the White House but to gain a platform to spread his ideas.
 
All I hav e to say is if we have to pull aid or troops from foriegn countries to save America then we must pull out.Although I don’t know if this is really necessary.obviously Paul has some reason for saying what he said but i think his reasons aren’t really reflected in his comment.
 
JMJSHJ said:
foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-ordered-bin-laden-raid/

and he thinks he could be President? I could never vote for him. Reminds me of when Howard Dean said this:

archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/5/2/130136.shtml

or when Pat Robertson said this:

usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-22-robertson-_x.htm
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So, you are in faavor of American Presidents sending executions squads into foreign countries without permission to conduct assassinations? Where is that in the gospel? 🤷
 
It **is **Fox News, not exactly fair and balanced, after all. Note that Ron Paul did not say he would not get Bin Laden. He would have done it through the Pakistani government. He is not insane, but rather ethical. Let us remember the ethics of Kant:

*A person acts morally when he or she acts as if his or her conduct was establishing a universal law governing others in similar circumstances. *

Or the Golden Rule:

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.

So, should Pakistani military be able to conduct a military raid inside the Continental United States at very great need? I you disagree, but think the the United States had that right, then Ron Paul’s ethics exceeds your hypocricy. I know it does mine.
 
pnewton said:
It **is **Fox News, not exactly fair and balanced, after all. Note that Ron Paul did not say he would not get Bin Laden. He would have done it through the Pakistani government. He is not insane, but rather ethical. Let us remember the ethics of Kant:

*A person acts morally when he or she acts as if his or her conduct was establishing a universal law governing others in similar circumstances. *

Or the Golden Rule:

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.

So, should Pakistani military be able to conduct a military raid inside the Continental United States at very great need? I you disagree, but think the the United States had that right, then Ron Paul’s ethics exceeds your hypocricy. I know it does mine.
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Imagine if Pakistan set a military assassin team into CONUS to snuff a political enemy?
 
You just have to wonder about some people’s ethics sometimes.

Executive order 12333, Part 2, para 11
cia.gov/cia/information/eo12333.html#2.11 :

2.11 Prohibition on Assassination. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

Following US policy that’s been in effect for 30 years is a sign of insanity?
 
pnewton said:
…Note that Ron Paul did not say he would not get Bin Laden. He would have done it through the Pakistani government…
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:rotfl:

Does anyone seriously doubt that the Pakistanis would have tipped Bin Laden off?
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
So, you are in faavor of American Presidents sending executions squads into foreign countries without permission to conduct assassinations? Where is that in the gospel? 🤷
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No my criticism of Robertson stems from the fact that after he made that statement he tried to spin what he said by saying that he didn’t mean assassinate Chavez but to “take him out”. I apologise for not including the above in my OP.
 
antonivs said:
:rotfl:

Does anyone seriously doubt that the Pakistanis would have tipped Bin Laden off?
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Don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t feel too comfortable if Spain sent elite forces secretly into the US to assassinate Bush. Regardless of what Bush did.
 
pnewton said:
It **is **Fox News, not exactly fair and balanced, after all. Note that Ron Paul did not say he would not get Bin Laden. He would have done it through the Pakistani government. He is not insane, but rather ethical. Let us remember the ethics of Kant:

*A person acts morally when he or she acts as if his or her conduct was establishing a universal law governing others in similar circumstances. *

Or the Golden Rule:

One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself.

So, should Pakistani military be able to conduct a military raid inside the Continental United States at very great need? I you disagree, but think the the United States had that right, then Ron Paul’s ethics exceeds your hypocricy. I know it does mine.
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I thought we had troops in Pakistan and we were assisting them in getting rid of Al Queda.
 
bbarrick8383 said:
Don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t feel too comfortable if Spain sent elite forces secretly into the US to assassinate Bush. Regardless of what Bush did.
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If he was a terrorist leader responsible for murdering over 3,000 Spaniards and still actively trying to destroy Spain and the United States was doing little or nothing to stop him, then more power to them.

¡Viva España!
 
antonivs said:
If he was a terrorist leader responsible for murdering over 3,000 Spaniards and still actively trying to destroy Spain and the United States was doing little or nothing to stop him, then more power to them.

¡Viva España!
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Many people feel that way about Bush. If they can come for him, what’s to stop them from coming after any other American they don’t like?
 
Aelred_Minor said:
Either Ron Paul is insane, or his presidential bids aren’t really to get into the White House but to gain a platform to spread his ideas.
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I think both statements are plausibly true, Aelred (I like your name incidentally; are you Anglo-Saxon?).
 
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