Rosalind Moss' New Community -Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope

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It was so good to hear Rosalind’s voice. You can always go to the archives and listen to the August 20 show if you missed it.

I will try to give a skeleton summary of what she said.

They had their big move-in day about 3 weeks ago at the convent. There were about 60 volunteers who helped carry the boxes, furniture, etc to the convent. Ros said everything went smoothly and quickly because of the generous help.

This Friday Father Thomas will be blessing the official garments for the sisters. This will take place between the liturgies at the 8:00 mass. After the habits, etc have been blessed, the sisters (novices) will then be able to wear them publicly.

They originally had planned to have Archbishop Burke bless the convent on September 14 but he has already left for Rome. They will have to wait until they have a replacement for Archbishop Burke before they can get the official blessing.

Jerry Usher was hosting the call-in show and he mentioned that he would be visiting St Louis in a few weeks. I’m not sure what the occasion or the actual days were.

It will still be a couple more weeks before the official website will be up and running.

A caller named Kendra called who sounded interested in the community. Ros told her how all the sisters would be wearing the floor-lenth habits out into the streets with their pockets filled with medals, rosaries, Catholic information and peanut butter snack packs. She wants her group of sisters to be known as

“messengers of hope to those looking for a sign of God’s mercy”

Ros wants everyone to tune in again the first Wednesday of September to hear the first official report of what life is like as a sister in the new habit. Don’t miss that show!
 
Thank you for the report on the show, that really helps me follow this good work.
 
onetruechurch said:
It was so good to hear Rosalind’s voice. You can always go to the archives and listen to the August 20 show if you missed it.

I will try to give a skeleton summary of what she said.

They had their big move-in day about 3 weeks ago at the convent. There were about 60 volunteers who helped carry the boxes, furniture, etc to the convent. Ros said everything went smoothly and quickly because of the generous help.

This Friday Father Thomas will be blessing the official garments for the sisters. This will take place between the liturgies at the 8:00 mass. After the habits, etc have been blessed, the sisters (novices) will then be able to wear them publicly.

They originally had planned to have Archbishop Burke bless the convent on September 14 but he has already left for Rome. They will have to wait until they have a replacement for Archbishop Burke before they can get the official blessing.

Jerry Usher was hosting the call-in show and he mentioned that he would be visiting St Louis in a few weeks. I’m not sure what the occasion or the actual days were.

It will still be a couple more weeks before the official website will be up and running.

A caller named Kendra called who sounded interested in the community. Ros told her how all the sisters would be wearing the floor-lenth habits out into the streets with their pockets filled with medals, rosaries, Catholic information and peanut butter snack packs. She wants her group of sisters to be known as

“messengers of hope to those looking for a sign of God’s mercy”

Ros wants everyone to tune in again the first Wednesday of September to hear the first official report of what life is like as a sister in the new habit. Don’t miss that show!
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I am in Australia and following this post from the start. I hope that you or another poster will post a link to the new habit when it is public!👍 …and go on updating this thread with as much info as possible. I am a complete amateur with computers and dont have speakers or a webcam so I can watch and hear on my computer. I have no idea how to do these things and hope to eventually have someone visit here who will fill me in…
 
Bryan Cross, the author of the excellent Principium Unitatis blog, posted a comment on the St. Louis Catholic blog (the link is in the previous post). I asked Bryan a question about Ross, and he was kind to write this insightful blog comment about Moss’s place in the world.

And, as an aside, you might note a bit of St. Louis pride showing in Bryan’s comment that he is “very grateful that she’s here in St. Louis.” Of course, that is exceeded by my own envy that she is not in my city! 🙂
 
This shows a little of what she hopes her day to be like:
Although many of those who already have inquired about the Daughters of Mary are middle-aged, Moss said she hopes to appeal to women “from 18 to 118.”

“You have to be able to keep the daily schedule, which includes walking the streets a few hours each day. So if you’re 118 and you can keep that up, you can come in,” Moss said.

Other requirements include being a single Catholic (either never married, widowed or a woman with an annulled marriage), in a state of grace, having a love for the Church and its teachings, and being in reasonable health — physically, emotionally and spiritually. Candidates also need to “be flexible and self-sacrificing.”

Most important to Moss is that the sisters use only kind words when speaking of others. “Gossip will be the only major cause for dismissal,” she stressed.

stlouisreview.com/article.php?id=15492
 
I am impressed that Rosalind stresses the only major cause fo rdismissal would be ‘gossip’…a sin that is not confessed too much anymore but which breaks down communities whether families, or parishes.

Thank you Lord for such a holy woman!:signofcross:
 
Oh my…time goes by so fast! It is time for another

Rosalind Moss alert

Tomorrow, September 3 Wednesday

3:00 PM Pacific time

right here at Catholic Answers or on your Catholic radio

Rosalind will be available to answers questions from 3 to 4:00PM pacific time.

Toll free phone number is 888-318-7884
(which spells 888-31-TRUTH)

Who on this thread will be calling her?:hug1: :blessyou:
 
I hope you all were able to hear Rosalind today. I don’t think any of you called in because of the ten callers only two were women. Maybe next time? 😉

Rosalind wanted to make sure that we understood that the “garments” they are presently wearing are only the postulant garments. The beautiful floor-lenth “habits” can not be worn until the new archbishop is appointed in St Louis. However, the garments had their first outing on Labor Day when Sister Rosalind and the other postulants went to the mall. Immediately people ran up to the sisters and started asking questions. Some of the people were fascinated with Ros’s Jewish necklace so that gave her the opportunity to explain the natural connection between the Jewish and Catholic faith. They were so interested in what Ros had to say that they said they would be attending mass next week.👍
 
That is so great!! I’m sure they will touch a lot of people, and I think most will be nice (some will be nasty of course) Fr. Groechel’s brothers and nuns do a lot of service on the streets of NYC and they say most people are very nice (and non-Catholic)

Is their head piece going to be simple? I don’t like the elaborate ones, they seem to give me a headache just looking at the layers and balancing some have to do.(plus I’m claustophobic, hate feeling anything tight on my head) I love the Sisters for Life habit and the simplicity of the Sisters of the Renewal.
I know she will make sure it is servicable…she’s a smart woman.
I hope she will still be on EWTN. Does anyone know if she will keep up any shows?

ps. neat pic of the sisters for life having fun
Open theblackcordelias.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/thats-how-they-roll/ in a new window.

They have a link to the MTV video of some young sisters joining the order…one from Yale in my neck of the woods. Interesting and inspiring.
 
This morning I listened to the September 3 talk show with Rosalind Moss.

She specifically said that she is not wearing a habit, but a postulant’s “outfit”.
“… we need to wait until the new archbishop comes to St. Louis to move forward. If God is so pleased and the new archbishop is pleased with us, then we can move forward to, head toward becoming a Public Association of the Faithful at which point we will take our habits…at a formal inauguration of the community.”

I think it is very important for those who have been so supportive of her new community that they pray very, very hard. First, Archbishop Burke’s appointment effective June 16th, which happened before the sisters even got to St. Louis - stopped the process. Only when the new archbishop is installed and - and if he decides :gopray2:

can they go forward to establishing as a Public Association of the Faithful. Prayer warriors get busy. There are weeks, months to go before we can take it easier.
 
This new order sounds absolutely wonderful ! Now we just need about 100 more of them !

Interesting how the habit draws so much attention isn’t it?
GOOD !!!
 
Thanks to those who posted the info and links. I’ve been following Rosalind and been praying for her. This is great!

I am awaiting further developments! 🙂
 
Oh! My two friends told me about Roalind Moss’s new community this year. I was so excited, because, I am in my late 40’s, and also seriously discerning a call to religious life. To give my all to my Lord, my God, means everything to me! If indeed the community wears blue, in honor of our Lady, that will be a gift to her. I know 3 other religious communities that also wear blue. Someone told me that the habit will look like a Carmelite habit. How beautiful! I know one thing, the community became consecrated this month.
And her religious name will be “Mother Mariam of the Lamb of God”. I know she will only accept 12 sisters this year, and then continue to grow. She has 5 sisters so far. Does anyone know any other up to date news? I have her email address, herconvent address, and I think its her other website address. :extrahappy: :nun1:
 
ClareTherese said:
Oh! My two friends told me about Roalind Moss’s new community this year. I was so excited, because, I am in my late 40’s, and also seriously discerning a call to religious life. To give my all to my Lord, my God, means everything to me! If indeed the community wears blue, in honor of our Lady, that will be a gift to her. I know 3 other religious communities that also wear blue. Someone told me that the habit will look like a Carmelite habit. How beautiful! I know one thing, the community became consecrated this month.
And her religious name will be “Mother Mariam of the Lamb of God”. I know she will only accept 12 sisters this year, and then continue to grow. She has 5 sisters so far. Does anyone know any other up to date news? I have her email address, herconvent address, and I think its her other website address. :extrahappy: :nun1:
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Hi ClareTherese. I spent 6 weeks with Rosalind’s community before starting a live-in as a hermit. I am now back in the world (and still discerning religious life as well) but I thought I would address some of your comments just to correct some misunderstandings.

First, Rosalind’s community has not been consecrated yet. When Archbishop Burke was promoted to Rome, everything had to be put on hold until after the new Archbishop is appointed to St Louis - because he must approve of the new community himself. It could take many months for a new Archbishop to be appointed.

Second, the habit went through many changes while I was there and the color at the time I left had changed from blue to black and white, with the full white wimple (Ros used as their model, the habit from the Elvis Presley movie with Mary Tyler Moore, “Change of Habit”). It may have changed again since I left, but they had already placed the order for the black and white material.

Third, there are only three postulants at the moment (including Ros) as two of us have left the community. The remaining sisters started wearing their postulant uniform recently (see links above) but will not go into the habit until the community has been approved and consecrated. There have been many enquiries and many applications, but not all of these were ready to enter this year. Ros cancelled a live-in visit that had been scheduled because of the delay in consecration but she may have rescheduled a new one since then.

The charism of the community is very evangelical and while I was there, there wasn’t as much focus on prayer as I like, so I would not really use the word semi-contemplative to describe this community, which Ros does in her interviews. It is really an active community in the full sense of the word. I do think this community would appeal to those who enjoy a lot of people contact and who want to basically evangelize and preach the gospel.

The community is also going to go through some birth pains, as it needs to establish itself with a proper religious formation (sadly lacking at the time I was there). I know that Ros is aware of these issues and is trying to address them. I think that the good Lord has arranged things so that they will have to wait for consecration, just to give them time to get all of these things in place.

So, I totally support what Ros is trying to do - and know that she is a very charismatic speaker and an enthusiastic leader, but I would like to suggest that discerners not get so enthusiastic that they fail to do the proper discernment. This community will not suit every person - just as one shoe does not fit all feet! 🙂 And of course, for anyone who wants to join in the first year or two, be aware that it will be a bumpy ride!
 
nunsense:
I spent 6 weeks with Rosalind’s community before starting a live-in as a hermit. I am now back in the world (and still discerning religious life as well) but I thought I would address some of your comments just to correct some misunderstandings.
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I wonder if you could fill in for me…i.e. “a live-in as a hermit” - does this mean that you were a live-in hermit with Ros’s proposed community?..and is her proposed foundation giving the opportunity to live as a hermit perhaps on convent grounds? Or have I got it all completely wrong.

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
 
BarbaraTherese said:
nunsense:

I wonder if you could fill in for me…i.e. “a live-in as a hermit” - does this mean that you were a live-in hermit with Ros’s proposed community?..and is her proposed foundation giving the opportunity to live as a hermit perhaps on convent grounds? Or have I got it all completely wrong.

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
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I am so sorry Barb - I didn’t realize that I sounded so confusing. No, I left Rosalind’s community because of the lack of formation and the lack of prayer (things which she is aware of, and is working on) and I moved in with the Hermits of Bethlehem in Chester, NJ, to discern a vocation with them.

It has been an incredible experience here, a life of total solitude with Our Lord (we each have the Blessed Sacrament reserved in our hermitage). During the first 40 days and nights, I could really identify with Our Lord going off into the desert and the intensity of prayer has been something that I can’t really describe. I did come to the conclusion though that the life of a hermit is not my vocation - and I am in awe at the hermits here who are able to live it permanently. Father Romano, the founder, has created an environment where hermits can live totally dedicated to prayer and penance, and it takes a special kind of person to do this.

I would be happy to come back here for retreats though, and many religious do this, from priests and seminarians, to sisters and even some contemplative nuns who don’t get enough solitude in their own communities (something I found when I was in Carmel).

I am leaving here on Saturday and will miss it terribly but I feel very blessed just to have been given such an opportunity.

I apologize for any confusion between the two communities. 🤷
 
nunsense said:
I am so sorry Barb - I didn’t realize that I sounded so confusing. No, I left Rosalind’s community because of the lack of formation and the lack of prayer (things which she is aware of, and is working on) and I moved in with the Hermits of Bethlehem in Chester, NJ, to discern a vocation with them.

It has been an incredible experience here, a life of total solitude with Our Lord (we each have the Blessed Sacrament reserved in our hermitage). During the first 40 days and nights, I could really identify with Our Lord going off into the desert and the intensity of prayer has been something that I can’t really describe. I did come to the conclusion though that the life of a hermit is not my vocation - and I am in awe at the hermits here who are able to live it permanently. Father Romano, the founder, has created an environment where hermits can live totally dedicated to prayer and penance, and it takes a special kind of person to do this.

I would be happy to come back here for retreats though, and many religious do this, from priests and seminarians, to sisters and even some contemplative nuns who don’t get enough solitude in their own communities (something I found when I was in Carmel).

I am leaving here on Saturday and will miss it terribly but I feel very blessed just to have been given such an opportunity.

I apologize for any confusion between the two communities. 🤷
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Thank you for clarifying for me…I did suspect that perhaps I had missed an earlier explanation in a previous post.

I live alone what is probably a semi heremetical type of lifestyle, midway between the lifestyle in Carmel (my best pal is a prioress) and the life of one living a full heremetical lifestyle. I am under private vows with direction. I never dreamed even wildly that I would ever take to even a remote sort of hermit lifestyle…it just unfolded in my path and I adjusted - Grace prevailed. I did find my early period of adjustment entirely difficult and arduous.
Some religious foundations, though not many to my knowledge, of contemplative life in community do have hermitages for those who may like to move to a more full heremit type lifestyle. There is some contact with the community though limited.

Blessings and thanks for the explantation again…regards…Barb:)
 
nunsense said:
First, Rosalind’s community has not been consecrated yet. When Archbishop Burke was promoted to Rome, everything had to be put on hold until after the new Archbishop is appointed to St Louis - because he must approve of the new community himself. It could take many months for a new Archbishop to be appointed.

The charism of the community is very evangelical and while I was there, there wasn’t as much focus on prayer as I like, so I would not really use the word semi-contemplative to describe this community, which Ros does in her interviews. It is really an active community in the full sense of the word. I do think this community would appeal to those who enjoy a lot of people contact and who want to basically evangelize and preach the gospel.

So, I totally support what Ros is trying to do - and know that she is a very charismatic speaker and an enthusiastic leader, but I would like to suggest that discerners not get so enthusiastic that they fail to do the proper discernment. This community will not suit every person - just as one shoe does not fit all feet! 🙂 And of course, for anyone who wants to join in the first year or two, be aware that it will be a bumpy ride!
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Rosalind alert:

Please listen to Catholic Answers Wednesday October 1 at 3:00 Pacific time. Rosalind will be giving an update of her community.

I have quoted above some of Nunsense’s feelings about the community. It is an “active” community and needs active healthy women who enjoy meeting strangers every day. It sounds like Nunsense preferred more of a contemplative convent. God bless her for helping Ros when she needed help in the beginning.

This also would not be the right fit for a shy quiet woman or a perfectionistic woman who wants a perfect daily schedule. It sounds like Ros’s sisters never know “exactly” what they will be doing when they meet the strangers on the street. It definitely sounds like a challenge but could be exciting for the right gal.

The first few years of any new organization takes PATIENCE. That is a quality that the founding members will need more than anything else. That is not my favorite virtue. I need lots of work there. If I were not married and were considering the community I would work to develop the patience of Job before considering entering. You need to realize what your weaknesses are and try to get that part of your life in order before joining.
 
Rosalind radio report:
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 First of all, we may now call her "Sister" Rosalind.  She will remain "sister" until her community is blessed by the next bishop of St Louis.  They are still waiting for his appointment.
 Sister seemed very pleased with all the fresh paint and new furniture.  The convent is almost ready for the rest of the furniture to be moved in.
 She is requesting prayers.  If you are reading this take a little time to pray that a new bishop is picked soon.  Sister Ros doesn't have any more patience than I do when it comes to                                          "w    a     i     t     i     n    g".
 She announced that "mysteriously"  Our Lady of Guadalupe invited herself to be the chosen mother Mary for the community.  Sister had already tentatively chosen another but somehow Our Lady of Guadalupe just "happened".  Maybe next time she will tell us how that happened.
 Sister had originally chosen a dark blue habit for her sisters but God had other plans.  The new habit will be black and white with full veils.
 One lady called in to tell Sister Ros that she had recently visited France and went to the chapel of St Francis de Sales.  When she was there she prayed for Rosalind.  She wasn't sure why she had this desire to pray for Rosalind but she felt the call.  Sister Ros then told her that St Francis was the patron for her convent.
 Another lady called in all excited about hearing that Sister Ros was accepting widows and older women.  She was working with a group of women whose husbands had abandoned them.  The woman was going to encourage some of the women to consider joining the new convent.   Sister was polite and did not discourage her.  Sister mentioned that if they were still married they would need an anullment.
Sister Ros did not mention that her convent is not a shelter for homeless women who may not have the true religious calling. I would love to hear what any of you may think about abandoned women joining. It may sound warm and fuzzy but could be a disaster:confused:
 
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