Rosalind Moss' New Community -Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope

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Another lady called in all excited about hearing that Sister Ros was accepting widows and older women. She was working with a group of women whose husbands had abandoned them. The woman was going to encourage some of the women to consider joining the new convent. Sister was polite and did not discourage her. Sister mentioned that if they were still married they would need an anullment.

Sister Ros did not mention that her convent is not a shelter for homeless women who may not have the true religious calling. I would love to hear what any of you may think about abandoned women joining. It may sound warm and fuzzy but could be a disaster:confused:
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Mmmm…interesting…certainly The Lord may call vocationally abandoned women to the religious life…why not!..
 
Maybe she didn’t want to be rude or harsh on the phone…you really don’t know people on the radio or their circumstances. Believe me, if the women didn’t have a calling, they would know soon. The idea of what you will be doing and the life is vastly different I’m sure than the reality.
I’ve read many stories from nuns, former nuns, some happy, some not, and they all, even with callings, had a hard time living under someone else’s rules. Men always have more freedom in their orders but that isn’t the argument now, just that Rosiland knows, they will be weeded out, no reason to squash somthing on the radio and be uncharitable, when it will proabably be taken care of it own its own.
I appreciate the updates. I hope she has time to go on an EWTN show when it’s up and official. Would be great to see them. 🙂
 
onetruechurch said:
Rosalind alert:

“This also would not be the right fit for a shy quiet woman or a perfectionistic woman who wants a perfect daily schedule. It sounds like Ros’s sisters never know “exactly” what they will be doing when they meet the strangers on the street. It definitely sounds like a challenge but could be exciting for the right gal.”

I hope (and I’m sure they will be) they are VERY well versed in our faith…one of our failings as Catholic’s is that for a long time, we were the most ignorant as a group of our faith and scripture. My husband, not brought up Catholic, would be the one to have the J.Witness’s silient at the door with challenges of scripture. They would say they had to talk to their “elder” and would have to come back. I would just stand there:blush: thinking I had a good answer. Time marched on and I’m much better now, but our church in the past years wanted to keep teaching to the priests/deacons etc. That has changed now, but you still have to be very careful if you are going to evangelize.
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I agree with this:
“This also would not be the right fit for a shy quiet woman or a perfectionistic woman who wants a perfect daily schedule. It sounds like Ros’s sisters never know “exactly” what they will be doing when they meet the strangers on the street. It definitely sounds like a challenge but could be exciting for the right gal.”

I hope (and I’m sure they will be) they are VERY well versed in our faith…one of our failings as Catholic’s is that for a long time, we were the most ignorant as a group of our faith and scripture. My husband, not brought up Catholic, would be the one to have the J.Witness’s silient at the door with challenges of scripture. They would say they had to talk to their “elder” and would have to come back. I would just stand there:blush: thinking I had a good answer. Time marched on and I’m much better now, but our church in the past years wanted to keep teaching to the priests/deacons etc. That has changed now, but you still have to be very careful if you are going to evangelize.
 
Quoting debraran:
Believe me, if the women didn’t have a calling, they would know soon.
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The idea of what you will be doing and the life is vastly different I’m sure than the reality.
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…very often it can be for sure:thumbsup: …
I’ve read many stories from nuns, former nuns, some happy, some not, and they all, even with callings, had a hard time living under someone else’s rules.
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…Obedience can now and then be a real trial and we are all called to obedience somewhere. For laity it is to The Church of course and some do make a vow or promise of obedience to a director…I have read that the vow religious sisters and nuns can find most difficult is Obedience (it can be thought to be Chastity)…and as you say it can be “a hard time living under someone else’s rules”…
Marriage I think sometimes too can be a hard trial of obedience if the partnership is to run smoothly. Sometimes one just have to give up what one would prefer…and follow the other…
Children of course, I think find obedience extremely hard:D
I appreciate the updates. I hope she has time to go on an EWTN show when it’s up and official. Would be great to see them. 🙂
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…👍 …I am an Australian, and I wonder if we will ever get to see them here and I suppose this may depend on how quickly they grow, although one never knows.

Barb:)
 
onetruechurch said:
Rosalind radio report:
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 Another lady called in all excited about hearing that Sister Ros was accepting widows and older women.  She was working with a group of women whose husbands had abandoned them.  The woman was going to encourage some of the women to consider joining the new convent.   Sister was polite and did not discourage her.  Sister mentioned that if they were still married they would need an anullment.
Sister Ros did not mention that her convent is not a shelter for homeless women who may not have the true religious calling. I would love to hear what any of you may think about abandoned women joining. It may sound warm and fuzzy but could be a disaster:confused:
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Sometimes, people think that after being abandoned by their husbands, a ‘good answer’ would be to become a nun. That is not necessarily true. Sometimes, the vocation of the person is to pray for the abandoning spouse (regardless of what that spouse is doing), and to continue to serve where one is planted…

There are others who think that this is a safe way to have companionship and care as they get older. That is NOT a reason to enter the convent. (I have been there, long ago, not as a sister, but in a more discerning capacity like aspirancy, postulancy).

Much prayer and discernment needs to take place. For a divorced person, that includes having petitioned for a Decree of Nullity, and having that Null verdict in place before applying. Finances is another consideration, as one cannot burden the convent with debt. Children are another consideration… if they are adult, easier, but if not, then it is not the answer.

Loneliness is also not a reason to enter a Convent. It isn’t an easy life. It is a life that one needs to KNOW that the Lord wants you to be in.
 
debraran said:
onetruechurch;4238116:
Rosalind alert:

I hope (and I’m sure they will be) they are VERY well versed in our faith…one of our failings as Catholic’s is that for a long time, we were the most ignorant as a group of our faith and scripture.

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Time marched on and I’m much better now, but our church in the past years wanted to keep teaching to the priests/deacons etc. That has changed now, but you still have to be very careful if you are going to evangelize.
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They will have Sister Rosalind Moss (soon to be Mother Miriam) as their head. If they are NOT well catechized, they will be.

The Church never just wanted the priests/deacons, etc taught the Faith, but many of those who taught the Faith did not teach it well, were dissenters themselves, did not know HOW to teach the Faith, etc.

Just as some think that Catholics were discouraged from reading the Bible… not so. In my DR from before VII, there is an indulgence (in the preface) explained for reading daily.

SOME tried to dissuade laity from getting/reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church when it was first coming out, saying that it was written for the priests, deacons, etc to use to teach the laity, but that was also demonstrated to be untrue. It was meant for all of us, and is understandable.
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Greetings in the Lord.

I love this blog and I love what I just read. Coming back to the catholic church I am renewed! I am so excited about what I am seeing and what is happening all over the country. Catholics are falling in love with the word of God! Yes they are! Being raised catholic, then leaving the church in 1984, I was introduced to Gods holy word. I remember we were never encouraged to read it for ourselves. However I know that is not so anymore, and has been changed for quite some time.
While in another denomination I learned to love the word of God! Actually I am a student of the word and have been for a long time. Taking classes in the study of, and understanding of. Plus the HOLY SPIRIT says He will guide us in all things, all truth. Whose? GODS! I just read an article in our local catholic paper about why scripture is vital to our walk as christians. We cannot know what God desires for us if we do not read His word and learn to walk by it. The church backs scripture, absolutely, and they have the oral tradition as well, that has been passed down from the apostles for goodness sakes, and they were men of the word! Yes the OT, but they walked with the Word of God!!!
Anyway I am so excited that Sister Rosiland will head up this order! They will grow and flourish in the living word of God for sure!
God Bless all who read and all who are in this order, now and to come!

Deborah
 
…I just read what I wrote and thought, somebody is going to birng up thet fact that scripture is used in mass and Father teaches from it. And I say YES that is true! However, hearing it and listening on Sunday isnt enough to KNOW how to apply it to our lives! There is far too much of that in all churches! Hearing it on Sunday and not walking it out! We are accountable for ourselves! I just wanted to clarify…thanks so much for this blessing of this website! God bless all…

Debbie
 
onetruechurch said:
Rosalind radio report:
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      She is requesting prayers.

      She announced that "mysteriously"  Our Lady of Guadalupe invited herself to be the chosen mother Mary for the community.  Sister had already tentatively chosen another but somehow Our Lady of Guadalupe just "happened".  Maybe next time she will tell us how that happened.

 Sister had originally chosen a dark blue habit for her sisters but God had other plans.  The new habit will be black and white with full veils.

     Another lady called in all excited about hearing that Sister Ros was accepting widows and older women.  She was working with a group of women whose husbands had abandoned them.  The woman was going to encourage some of the women to consider joining the new convent.   Sister was polite and did not discourage her.  Sister mentioned that if they were still married they would need an anullment.
Sister Ros did not mention that her convent is not a shelter for homeless women who may not have the true religious calling. I would love to hear what any of you may think about abandoned women joining. It may sound warm and fuzzy but could be a disaster:confused:
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Our emerging Cloisterite Hermits have as part of their charism the prayer for emerging charisms. We are her “cloistered” prayer! Please let her know that.

She will probably be encountering a lot of Hispanics. The sisters need to pray to the Holy Ghost for their discernment of spirits to be developed. They should be the sweetest people anyone’s ever met.

Habits and charisms evolve. Everyone should be patient with that. God could want the “stereotypical” nuns’ habit to be out there. What else do you think of when you think “nun?”

The abandoned women could be referred to us at Cloister Outreach. There are tremendous issues to be resolved, and these women need to get their paperwork together, and their grief work done. I would recommend prayers to St. Joseph and St. Ann. The latter was temporarily abandoned by her husband because of her barrenness.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
WICatholic said:
Sometimes, people think that after being abandoned by their husbands, a ‘good answer’ would be to become a nun. That is not necessarily true. Sometimes, the vocation of the person is to pray for the abandoning spouse (regardless of what that spouse is doing), and to continue to serve where one is planted…

Loneliness is also not a reason to enter a Convent. It isn’t an easy life. It is a life that one needs to KNOW that the Lord wants you to be in.
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I agree 100%👍

Many years ago in the city of Milwaukee there was a dormitory for Catholic business women called St Catherine’s Home for Business Women. It had a locked front entrance for protection and lovely rooms for the women. Some were double and some single rooms. Breakfast and dinner were served in a dining room as part of the monthly fee…which if I remember correctly was very inexpensive. I stayed there one summer and appreciated the companionship and safety of living in a group home in the heart of a big city. Oh, as an added attraction, it was located within a block of a Catholic church. I hope St Catherine’s still exists.

This would be a much better choice for single women than to join a convent out of fear or loneliness. Maybe the women who live in the group home can spend time working and “discerning” a vocation before knocking on Sister Rosalind’s door.
 
onetruechurch said:
Many years ago in the city of Milwaukee there was a dormitory for Catholic business women called St Catherine’s Home for Business Women. QUOTE]

After writing this I looked up St Catherine Residence on the net to see if it still existed. It is located closer to Lake Michigan but the idea of a safe home for Catholic women with a 24 hour chapel inside the dormitory still exists. Check it out if you are in that “in-between stage” and want to see what is available. Maybe they could let you know if there is a similar safe home for Catholic women in a city near you. Maybe there is even one in St Louis near Sister Rosalind’s convent. That would be perfect for women who are not quite sure if they want to take the big step.

http:www.stcatherineresidence.org/
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Sometimes, people think that after being abandoned by their husbands, a ‘good answer’ would be to become a nun. That is not necessarily true. Sometimes, the vocation of the person is to pray for the abandoning spouse (regardless of what that spouse is doing), and to continue to serve where one is planted…
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I think that probably all religious houses would be very wisely and in common sense totally reluctant to invite into aspirancy a woman recently abandoned by her husband. As I see things, there should be an elapse of some years after the huband has abandoned her before serious reflection and enquiries could begin re religious life if the desire persisted still after some years.
An annulment may be required and this could take quite a few years. Certainly any children need to be independant and living and supporting themselves independantly to my mind.
There are others who think that this is a safe way to have companionship and care as they get older. That is NOT a reason to enter the convent. (I have been there, long ago, not as a sister, but in a more discerning capacity like aspirancy, postulancy).
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*I feel either the interview process prior to entering into aspirancy should ideally flush out dubious reasons for considering religious life, although of course it is not infallible and some may “fall through the cracks”…religious life and monastic life would be rather quick I think (although and again not infallible) to flush out sooner or later before too long those who were entering into the life without sound motivation, or the life itself would purify their motivations. Monastic life can be a very lonely existence and at times difficult life despite the community around one - and the community itself at times can present trials………monastic life and religious life have their own particular difficulties inherent in the way of life and without a sound vocation it may be difficult to impossible to persevere…again not infallible. Be that as it may, entrance requirements to aspirancy initially are not infallible and some could be admitted who are unsuitable and others turned away who actually do have a sound vocation. *
Loneliness is also not a reason to enter a Convent. It isn’t an easy life. It is a life that one needs to KNOW that the Lord wants you to be in.
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…👍 …one would certainly need conviction to persevere I should think…

Quoting Deborassong:
Plus the HOLY SPIRIT says He will guide us in all things, all truth
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John 14 26 But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.27* Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be afraid. 28 You have heard that I said to you: I go away, and I come unto you. If you loved me, you would indeed be glad, because I go to the Father: for the Father is greater than I. 29 And now I have told you before it comes to pass: that when it shall come to pass, you may believe. 30 I will not now speak many things with you. For the prince of this world cometh, and in me he hath not any thing.*

The prayerful reading of Scripture is of very great importance at some time daily if possible…and probably laity needs to not only have this practise recommended to them as important, but also how to read Scripture in a prayerful way. This, to my mind, needs to come down to the parish from higher up and not as optional or a recommendation, but as mandatory at least a few times during the year.
Of great interest to me, is that our part time parish priest has had a big book drive of copies of a translation of The Bible that are or will be used at Mass in the Lectionary…I am hoping that this means there will be somthing forthcoming on a parish level about the prayerful reading of Scripture. The parish was able to obtain The Bibles at a fairly large reduction due to the fact that they were hoping to sell many, which they did. And in turn probably many were sold because parishioners could obtain them more cheaply than anywhere.

*Barb:) *
 
I would like to refer all of you faithful prayer warriors for “Daughters of Mary…” to the beautiful
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The Marian Group on YouTube
that poster TBolt1000T presented on the Popular Medium fourm. Today is the special day for the rosary and the month of October is rosary month so watching some of the youtube Marian songs today would be appropriate.

I just finished watching Mary Our Mother Queen of Heaven…

:harp: :nun1:
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Thank you to TBolt1000T
 
Sister Rosalind has decided after much prayer and guidance from Our Dear Lord and His Mother Mary to step down from public speaking to focus her time fully on her new order. I think this is a very wise move which will prove quite fruitful. I was so fortunate to see Rosalind Moss speak last spring when she announced her new vocation and now this past Saurday in Dekalb Illinois at the EWTN Catholic Family Conference when Sister Rosalind surprised us all and her sisters to stop her public speaking. to focus completely on the new order. Continued prayers to her and her sisters, I feel confident that the order will be a succes.
 
DefenderofGod said:
Sister Rosalind has decided after much prayer and guidance from Our Dear Lord and His Mother Mary to step down from public speaking to focus her time fully on her new order. I think this is a very wise move which will prove quite fruitful. I was so fortunate to see Rosalind Moss speak last spring when she announced her new vocation and now this past Saurday in Dekalb Illinois at the EWTN Catholic Family Conference when Sister Rosalind surprised us all and her sisters to stop her public speaking. to focus completely on the new order. Continued prayers to her and her sisters, I feel confident that the order will be a succes.
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A loss I am sure in one way, although I have never been fortunate enough to hear her speak. In another way, I am sure that she has much on her plate indeed with a new foundation, and certainly it used to be that the noviciate years focused totally on spiritual formation in the Order to the exclusion of any other focus. Founding a religious community must be a massive, and to me daunting, task since one does need to put in place a formation program for those that will join and have a clear understanding of the new community’s charism and formation in it as well as other needs and matters needing focus and addressing. As I said, to me this would be totally daunting/

Keeping her and her new foundation in prayer…
 
From EWTN for today:

Rosalind Moss.
EWTN series host Rosalind Moss gives a talk on the theme “Called to Conversion”.
Sat 10/11/08 2:00 PM
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Barzillai said:
From EWTN for today:

Rosalind Moss.
EWTN series host Rosalind Moss gives a talk on the theme “Called to Conversion”.
Sat 10/11/08 2:00 PM
1 ET & 1 AM PT
1 AM PT
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I saw her today and she was fabulous as always. Her talk, as always, hit very much at home. I was in tears along with her. I was sitting watching in my bedroom and couldn’t move. I wanted to hear every word. As always, I was not disappointed.

Kathy
 
Irish_Kathy said:
I saw her today and she was fabulous as always. Her talk, as always, hit very much at home. I was in tears along with her. I was sitting watching in my bedroom and couldn’t move. I wanted to hear every word. As always, I was not disappointed.

Kathy
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No offense but fabulous is just a mild description for a wonderful awesome lady. Sister is wonderful.
 
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