Roy Moore's Accuser Count is now up to 9

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Cathoholic said:
Jig_Saw. Is just going to have to let himself (her?) be “triggered” that I also observe the defense against Moore’s accusations are likewise worthy of considering.

And Jig_Saw will just have to keep inventing mythical points I allegedly made and continue to attack this invented straw man of his.
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It’s worth keeping in mind that your defense of Moore is claiming that only one of nine accusers has committed a falsehood. The mythical points you made were that this somehow undermines the case against Moore, which is pretty darn ridiculous given that she is only one of nine accusers. It isn’t a strawman to say his supporters continue to repeat over and over again that the one accusers is lying and then try to apply that more broadly than it should while totally ignoring Moore’s lies.
 
Cathoholic said:
Yeah. Like the 59 million “he said and she saids” that are much MORE than allegations against Doug Jones ideas.

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042
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Then just say that you don’t care if Moore molested a 14-year old girl because abortion is more important to you so you’ll vote for him, but stop with the false claim that because you can poke holes in one of the nine accusers’ story that Moore is innocent or reasonable doubt exists.
 
The word “forged” is not accurate. She made a note following his yearbook entry.
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And her attorney didn’t initially admit it.

So people are now questioning if there is MORE holes in the allegations. (What ELSE is her attorney prevaricating on?).

That’s just a fact. It undermines her own claims with this.

Again. I am not saying the allegations should be dismissed. I AM saying these are just that (at this point) . . . Allegations.

Allegations that have been partially discredited. That’s all.

But the allegations against Jones (ideas) has been affirmed by him.
 
I no longer believe that the Republican Party cares about abortion.

It’s just something to make people vote for their agendas.

Seriously. If they cared Trump wouldn’t be president because he had no prolife background at all. And all the other candidates had more background.

And now we have this Alabama candidate who digs his heels and slut shames victims as being “problem children”. No shame whatsoever.

And 1000 plus posts with Catholics defending him.

Sexual abuse is horrible. And I’ve known many people who were abused. My friend. My Aunt was raped at 16 and kept it silent for years. I could go on.

After the amount of money we as the Church have spent on abuse victims, I’m ashamed. Women and girls don’t count.
 
Jig_Saw:
Then just say that you don’t care if Moore molested a 14-year old girl
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No. I care very much. But it must be beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was done. And you repeating 40 year old (that are recently being brought to light) “he said - she saids” is not making your claims any more persuasive

(while at the same time YOU ignore aspects that are beyond allegations. Aspects that admittedly by Jones INCLUDE him being OK with murdering innocent babies. But now is your chance to disavow that Jig_Saw and say you CANNOT support Doug Jones abusive ideas. So go ahead and disavow them. I’ll be waiting. . . .).

Then YOU just say that you don’t care that there have been 59 million innocent human persons murdered that you are attempting to ignore.
 
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No. You don’t get to do that.

Roy Moore is NOT going to outlaw abortion all by himself.

Roy Moore has caused scandal and has made the prolife movement look like parodies of what pro choice think of us.

We only care about unborn. That once they are born, who are we to object to sexual abuse.
 
Cathoholic said:
But many others don’t because liberals keep trying to use these types of things to fool voters into voting for MORE liberals… . . And that method of manipulation doesn’t seem to be working any more. And liberals don’t know what to do about it
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When the Republicans were in the same position, they managed to gerrymander their districts in 2010 so that the House was pretty much theirs for the entire decade. Perhaps the Democrats have learned their lesson; and/or perhaps they are sunk for some time. Time will tell.
 
That’s what the parody is. No straw man. Moore has no shame. If he did he’d bow out of the race for the damage he’s caused.
 
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Cathoholic:
But many others don’t because liberals keep trying to use these types of things to fool voters into voting for MORE liberals… . . And that method of manipulation doesn’t seem to be working any more. And liberals don’t know what to do about it
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When the Republicans were in the same position, they managed to gerrymander their districts in 2010 so that the House was pretty much theirs for the entire decade. Perhaps the Democrats have learned their lesson; and/or perhaps they are sunk for some time. Time will tell.
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There are plenty of gerrymandered districts in Democrat country.
 
F_Marturana (pretending this is how Pro-life people think):

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That once they are born, who are we to object to sexual abuse.
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You are putting forth a falsehood to prop up mere allegations.

A falsehood that ANY Pro-lifer knows is a lie (I am not saying YOU are a liar F_Marturana. Perhaps you are merely ignorant. But in trying to tattoo Pro-lifers with this cavalier attitude, you are passing on this lie.)
 
F_Marturana said:
I no longer believe that the Republican Party cares about abortion.

It’s just something to make people vote for their agendas.

Seriously. If they cared Trump wouldn’t be president because he had no prolife background at all. And all the other candidates had more background.
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I think some Republican voters do care about abortion and some politicians even, but I also think that the Republicans as a party think they are better served by keeping it a wedge issue - voice support but make no attempt at real change.
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And 1000 plus posts with Catholics defending him.

Sexual abuse is horrible. And I’ve known many people who were abused. My friend. My Aunt was raped at 16 and kept it silent for years. I could go on.

After the amount of money we as the Church have spent on abuse victims, I’m ashamed. Women and girls don’t count.
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Not all the posts are defending Moore, but yes, sexual abuse is horrible and the excuses defending Moore are lame. Fortunately, by their comments, we can see where people stand and know how seriously to take their attempts to grab the moral high ground in the future.
 
F_Marturana said:
That’s what the parody is. No straw man. Moore has no shame. If he did he’d bow out of the race for the damage he’s caused.
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I was responding to your post that pro-lifers only care about the unborn. Who said that? Who said they didn’t think sexual predation is serious? WHO?
 
That is true and Illinois is one of those Democrat countries, except now there is a Republican governor, even if he did recently allow Medicaid to fund abortions. The state legislation and the governor is where it starts.
 
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Roy Moore is NOT going to outlaw abortion all by himself.
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That’s irrelevant as to whether or not the charges against him are true.

But Doug Jones easily could turn out to be the deciding vote AGAINST LIFE in possible future pro-life legislation.

This would be a disaster don’t you agree?
 
Cathoholic said:
But Doug Jones easily could turn out to be the deciding vote AGAINST LIFE in possible future pro-life legislation.
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OTOH, we should hope Roy Moore will never be in a position to legislate in matters of child molesting.
 
ProVobis:
When the Republicans were in the same position, they managed to gerrymander their districts in 2010
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There IS district gerrymandering and has been by Democrats AND Republicans as long as I can recall.

Go back and look at Barney Frank’s old district map sometime.

If you want to call for gerrymandering reform, I am open to that.

If you want to call for term-limits, and other ways to reign in Government power, I’d be open to that too.

Just what ideas do you have to shrink Government? (Or is it ONLY Republican aspects of Government you want to shrink?)
 
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Jig_Saw said:
You disagree that, when I ask some who claims it to be a forgery for proof because it was my understanding that it’s hasn’t been proven to be a forgery, that is somehow irrelevant. Ok, then.
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How can you prove it’s a forgery unless the handwriting has been analyzed?
 
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