Roy Moore's Accuser Count is now up to 9

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Boatswain2PA said:
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Jig_Saw:
Now, exactly what age does it stop being pedophilia? I mean, what age does the girl have for a 32 year old man trying to have sexual relationship with her and sexually assaulting to be considered a pedophile? I’m wondering since you know these things so well. Is it 14 or 13 or what?
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We can ALL agree that, whatever the definition, if Moore did what he is accused of doing then it is wrong, and he shouldn’t be in the Senate.

But there is a standard in America that draws a distinct line between being ACCUSED and being CONVICTED. Other than an obviously forged signature, there is no evidence, and it is reasonable to question 40 year old accusations.
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That is a legal concept. Juries are bound by that principle, not voters
 
Boatswain2PA said:
And a reasonable person understands that people are INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. There is no reliable proof here, so it is simply he said/she said
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That is for a criminal conviction.

Holding a senate seat is a privilege.
 
This gives credibility to the idea that Moore was targeting the daughters of Mothers raising children alone or had some joint custody or partial custody or visitation.
 
Jig_Saw said:
And, there is evidence unless you don’t consider victim’s testimony evidence.
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And there is the corroborated testimony from people whom were told about the incidents at some time after it happened.
 
FJ2000 said:
Unfortunately, none of these allegations will matter. He is Pro-Life and the election is in Alabama. He will win. Some members of the Republican party will be embarrassed, but they need his vote to pass their tax cut. The rich will get richer and the poor white folk down in Alabama will continue to hang Old Glory from the trailer, complain about people on welfare and go to church on Sunday to praise Jesus for his moral and Christian values. Amen, brother.
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Only one part of that is wrong. Since I am here in Alabama, born and raised, they hang "Rebel Flag" from the trailer.
 
Theo520 said:
You too?

I’m surprised how many posters here don’t understand puberty
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Pedophilia is used in the general sense that man(men) is used.

In the strictest sense Pedophilia is sex with children that have not reached Puberty yet.
In the general sense Pedophilia is sex with a child generally under the age of 19. That age is flexible upon the culture it resides in. IE in the past when a Priest was accused of having sex with a 16 year old, the Priest was labeled as a Pedophile and accused as such.

In the strictest sense Man(Men) is a male entity.
In the general sense Man(Men) is humankind both Male and Female. IE “All men are created equal”
IE “man shall not live by bread alone”
 
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JoshuaIsLord said:
And there is the corroborated testimony from people whom were told about the incidents at some time after it happened.
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Well, yeah, that too. I guess some people want to see selfies or something before they will believe it.
 
JoshuaIsLord said:
In the strictest sense Pedophilia is sex with children that have not reached Puberty yet.

In the general sense Pedophilia is sex with a child generally under the age of 19.
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Your ‘general sense’ is a complete misapplication of the word. An 18yr old who has relations with a 16yr old is not committing pedophilia. Using it as you do only serves to increase the negative response, to misrepresent one crime as a worse crime. It’s a tactic used in propaganda efforts.
 
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Theo520 said:
Your ‘general sense’ is a complete misapplication of the word.
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It is not my general sense. It is what I’ve seen over the years.

When the general population refer to Priests that have molested children of any age they collectively call them “Pedophile Priests”. It is going to a very long time before that moniker slips from the world mind.
 
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Odd that this quote is attributed to me.

Not my quote. Must be a glitch somewhere.
 
You too though. Statutory isn’t a synonym for underage. It means pertaining to the statute.

It means that the prosecutor just has to prove the sexual contact occurred. He doesn’t need to provide coercion or assault.

Children cannot consent to sexual contact.

Not all underage sexual contact is only statutory.

The case with the fourteen year old in his house would be classified under Alabama law as second degree sexual abuse. If she were two years younger, it would be classified as first degree sexual abuse. Perhaps also attempted rape.

The case with the sixteen year old in the car, that would be attempted rape, because he attempted penetration.

The term pedophilia isn’t a legal term. It’s a sexual attraction to children. It becomes a crime when the pedophile molests a child. Pedophiles are dangerous people. So are molesters.
 
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JoshuaIsLord said:
It is not my general sense. It is what I’ve seen over the years.

When the general population refer to Priests that have molested children of any age they collectively call them “Pedophile Priests”. It is going to a very long time before that moniker slips from the world mind.
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So you think because others make the same mistake, it should be ignored?
Stop rationalizing and accept the correction.
 
I was responding to a mention of the original case of the 14yr old, not categorizing every accusation. Stop pretending I’m defending him by suggesting we accurately describe his transgressions. None of the cases I’ve read were related to pedophilia.

I’ve repeatedly stated he should be held accountable for what he has done.
 
Theo520 said:
I was responding to a mention of the original case of the 14yr old, not categorizing every accusation. Stop pretending I’m defending him by suggesting we accurately describe his transgressions. None of the cases I’ve read were related to pedophilia.
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Yes, you never answered my question: what’s the cutoff age for it to be pedophilia? I would think 14 and you’re there, but apparently not. What does it have to be?
 
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