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dvdjs
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Bring on discovery and depositions.
LOL.
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Jig_Saw
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Oh, but his supporters love the tough talk. It makes it easier to vote for him because they can distract themselves from the facts of the case. You’re right though; he would have to get on the stand and tell the truth or face perjury charges and I bet the stories change under oath.
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SuperLuigi
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What you have to understand is they have an agenda. See my link above.
Bringing up the Clintons…not a good look for you on here…
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Jig_Saw
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Gateway pundit? What, nothing from Milo Y?
Nah, he was just questioning the reliability whether Jeanne’s view here is based on truth or politics.
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dvdjs
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On the contrary, it is the perfect look.
Seeing those who chronically throw stones with the vast conspiracy suddenly develop such probity and magnanimity … It is good to remind them of heir ow behavior which they seem to have forgotten.
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SuperLuigi
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That’s quite a comparison. Women who are backing off accusing Roy Moore admidst questionable if not FAKE evidence that the allegation-bringers won’t even turn over to I assume the Clinton Foundation?
So hysterical and predictable.
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dvdjs
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Would you mind making a coherent point, if you have one? Perhaps include an actual fact, just for the sake of novelty.
Or you might address the items in this articel - point by point:
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Jig_Saw
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Could you back this up with a real source/not Gatewaypundit or Milo Y?
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petra22
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You should really take a good look in the mirror… take the moat out of your own eye… God Bless!
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_thaddeus
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I don’t think anyone really needs a poll to see the debasement of USA party line Politics-Religion; in just a few years! It’s amazing. The Q. and A. are bolded.
"The Public Religion Research Institute asked a large random sample of Americans a blunt question: “Do you think an elected official who commits an immoral act in their private life can still behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life?” Over the past five years, Americans have shifted toward a more accommodating stance. In 2011, only 44 percent believed that politicians could be immoral in private and still perform their public duties in an ethical manner. Now, this position commands 61 percent support. It is endorsed by 61 percent of Democrats (up 12 points since 2011) and by 70 percent of Republicans (up a whopping 34 points).
The breakdown along religious lines is instructive. Americans without any religious affiliation haven’t shifted much—63 percent in 2011, 60 percent today. Catholic acceptance of politicians’ personal misconduct has increased from 42 to 58 percent. White mainline Protestant support is up by 22 points, from 38 to 60 percent.
These large shifts are dwarfed, however, by the change among white evangelicals. In 2011, only 30 percent believed that personal immorality was consistent with an ethical performance of official duties. Today, 72 percent of white evangelicals—up an astounding 42 points–believe that the two can go together."
Has Trump caused white Evangelicals to change their tune on morality? https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...vangelicals-to-change-their-tune-on-morality/
Donald Trump delivered Republicans the presidency and both houses of Congress. That gift may prove fatal to the GOP http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/sh/eatEKW1pYG/donald-trump-first-year-republican-party/
"The Public Religion Research Institute asked a large random sample of Americans a blunt question: “Do you think an elected official who commits an immoral act in their private life can still behave ethically and fulfill their duties in their public and professional life?” Over the past five years, Americans have shifted toward a more accommodating stance. In 2011, only 44 percent believed that politicians could be immoral in private and still perform their public duties in an ethical manner. Now, this position commands 61 percent support. It is endorsed by 61 percent of Democrats (up 12 points since 2011) and by 70 percent of Republicans (up a whopping 34 points).
The breakdown along religious lines is instructive. Americans without any religious affiliation haven’t shifted much—63 percent in 2011, 60 percent today. Catholic acceptance of politicians’ personal misconduct has increased from 42 to 58 percent. White mainline Protestant support is up by 22 points, from 38 to 60 percent.
These large shifts are dwarfed, however, by the change among white evangelicals. In 2011, only 30 percent believed that personal immorality was consistent with an ethical performance of official duties. Today, 72 percent of white evangelicals—up an astounding 42 points–believe that the two can go together."
Has Trump caused white Evangelicals to change their tune on morality? https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...vangelicals-to-change-their-tune-on-morality/
Donald Trump delivered Republicans the presidency and both houses of Congress. That gift may prove fatal to the GOP http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/sh/eatEKW1pYG/donald-trump-first-year-republican-party/
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dvdjs
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Perhaps you could be specific, rather then so totally vague about the lies tht you are accusing someone of feed on and failing to challenge. Otherwise there is no conversation here just a personal attack. Is that what you meant to do?
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dvdjs
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Thanks for this illuminating post.
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Theo520
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@_thaddeus,
timing is important in comprehending such research. Since it was completed in the Obama era, so you should be asking if Bush or Obama caused the shift, not Trump.
Perhaps just argue Trump benefited from the shift, caused by others.
timing is important in comprehending such research. Since it was completed in the Obama era, so you should be asking if Bush or Obama caused the shift, not Trump.
Perhaps just argue Trump benefited from the shift, caused by others.
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_thaddeus
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It was 2011 and 2016. Since It’s still 2017, I don’t think the 2017 is out yet. 
Like I said, no one needs a poll; the debasement happened overnight, right before our eyes. It was shocking and amazing to see.
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Like I said, no one needs a poll; the debasement happened overnight, right before our eyes. It was shocking and amazing to see.
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I wasn’t arguing.
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niceatheist
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At which point all of Moore’s misdeeds would become admissible in open court, and any denials on his part could be construed as perjury. I imagine Moore knows this, and wouldnt dream of dragging these women into court. First of all, civil courts don’t work on the notion of innocence until proven guilty, they work on balance of probabilities, and nine women plus other people willing to testify to Moore’s behavior in those days would be more than enough to kill his lawsuit, not to mention that discovery would allow those women and other associated witnesses a chance to put their allegations on the record.
These kinds of articles are for the faithful, they keep the Moore supporters happy, but no, there will never be a time when Roy Moore, an experienced attorney and judge, would ever be stupid enough to actually sue these women. But that sort of blowhard threat was exactly what Cosby and Weinstein threatened as well.
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Theo520
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So the shift occurred 100% under Obama’s tenure. Obviously he should be the focus of your investigation.It was 2011 and 2016. Since It’s still 2017, I don’t think the 2017 is out yet.
Like I said, no one needs a poll; the debasement happened overnight, right before our eyes. It was shocking and amazing to see.
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dvdjs
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I am curious about the point that you seem to be flirting with?
Are you looking for a person or event that could be seen as the cause of this shift? If so, why? The “causes” is unlikely to be simple, nor exculpatory.
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Theo520
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Just responding to the insinuation that this is a Trump effect, not possible since Trump wasn’t even elected/president. Though you might be able to say this underlying change opened the door for Trump to win.I am curious about the point that you seem to be flirting with?
Are you looking for a person or event that could be seen as the cause of this shift? If so, why? The “causes” is unlikely to be simple, nor exculpatory.
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dvdjs
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Ahh. I think that Trump is better understood as an effect than a cause; he does appear to have sealed the deal in this Faustian bargain.
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SuperLuigi
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What misdeeds are you talking about? I would expect you to be specific since your entire argument hinges on that.
Also, you’re doing an awful lot as a foreigner trying to run cover fire for the DNC.
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