Roy Moore's Accuser Count is now up to 9

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Your post shows great confusion.

Japan is a separate country with their own rule of law.

Introducing it into a US centric discussion is just a red herring.
So, some crimes are so horrific that a statute of limitations isn’t all that meaningful?
 
It is his interpretation of religious freedoms (following a more of a constitutional originality view) that endears him to many.
He does not follow a “constitutional originality view”. His view is that the only people who are entitled to freedom of religion are those that share his religious beliefs. That is not what the founders believed.
 
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Watch this and draw your own conclusions.

It was pretty well-known Bill Clinton was a serial philanderer BEFORE he was elected in 1992.

Now someone will protest and say “philandering isn’t the same as abuse!”
I suppose it could be said that all sorts of things are pretty well known about Moore.
In fact we have many. many women coming forward to accuse him of behaviors that is at best tawdry and at worse child abuse.

Now some actual truth about Clinton for a change. We did know of Gennifer Flowers. She, or course, did not allege abuse, she, of course, did not allege that she was underage. She did allege an affair. By Trump and Moores standards of accusations, it all seems positively decent.

And her claims to an affair were made after she had denied it. And after she was paid handsomely to deny her denial.

Those who spend time looking for holes to poke in the stories of Moore’s accusers should easily recognize the Flower’s story as a nothingburger. Yet, oddly they point back to Clinton. I think it fair to say that they don’t remember much of Clinton, just the false memories that they built up in their own imaginations. It is breathtaking how they actively undercut their credibility with this stuff.
 
So, some crimes are so horrific that a statute of limitations isn’t all that meaningful?
So you say about the Japanese and their Rule of Law.

Again, please stop the red herrings. Our discussion is about US rule of law and what our culture decided was time relevant and by how much.
 
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So you say about the Japanese and their Rule of Law.

Again, please stop the red herrings. Our discussion is about US rule of law and what our culture decided was time relevant and by how much.
I think using the idea of statute of limitations as a point where attempted rapes and sexual assaults on children are forgiven and forgotten is the red herring here. Just because Alabama lets the fellow off the hook doesn’t mean it is forgiven or forgotten by his victims.
 
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I suppose it could be said that all sorts of things are pretty well known about Moore.
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But that’s not what you said dvdjs (It was on the Conyers thread here).

You criticized another poster for bringing this point out (about Bill Clinton being in trouble prior to the 1992 campaign).

And the other poster was right and you were wrong.

Why not just admit it dvdjs?

Why when you are obviously wrong do you always seem to do this?

Why not just say to the other poster:
“You were right. Bill Clinton WAS in trouble for this kind of behavior long before the Lewinski incident became public. I was wrong”
 
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You criticized another poster for bringing this point out.

And the other poster was right and you were wrong
Your link to my words have this:
I am waiting for a list of women who accused Bill Clinton before he was elected - per your claim. (post #38)
The accusation in question? Work your way back on the thread that you linked to:
The women who accused Bill Clinton went public before he was voted in. (post # 24)
Accused of what?
The words used in the thread were abuse (post #8) and assault (post #25).

What do you bring up?
Not "women" but one woman, Gennifer Flowers.
Not an accusation of assault or abuse, but one of philandering.

You may wish to try to portray the charges against Trump or Moore as the same sort of thing with as occurred with Clinton before his election, but that is patent nonsense,
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The distinction here is not the least bit subtle or complicated or over the head of anyone able to read. And grasping the certainly not beyond the capability of people who find the most tendentious ways to somehow exculpate Moore. (She signed at an HRC event - oh my!)

Moore’s (and Trump’s) defenders know that the accusation by women against him far exceed in number, gravity, and credibility the ones against Bill Clinton before he was elected. Those who defend Moore (and Trump) do so at the cost of forfeiting any credible, non-hypocritical right to complain about those who supported Bill in 1992, or, for that matter in 1996. Of course those that support Moore (and Trump) may not care about hypocrisy in the least.

BTW, I have gone through the Clinton timeline for posters who seem to be totally confused by what happened when. (See for example post #26 of the thread:
Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32). That timeline started with Gennifer Flowers. If you think that you link to the 60 minutes segment brought something new to the discussion, then you haven’t been paying attention.
 
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dvdjs:
Not “women” but one woman, Gennifer Flowers.
Now in addition to dvdjs re-defining what Edward_H said (over at the Conyers thread), dvdjs is also now re-defining what he (she?) said.

(Here is what dvdjs said:

“The number of assault claims lodged against Bill by alleged victims before his election is zero.”

You can see it here in post 36).

I’ll post more at the Conyers thread (perhaps tomorrow) so as not to hijack this one.
 
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Now in addition to …
I invite you an others to look on the thread you linked to and that I retraced.
The quote and the words that I gave are from the exchanges between Edward_H and me.

Are you suggesting that Gennifer Flowers claimed that she was assaulted? Actually, she claimed that she was Bill’s mistress of twelve years.
 
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So, you are ok with false accusations?

OR, you are ok with accusations against Republicans?

BUT, for the past 50 years you had no problems with these sex crimes by Democrats?
 
BUT, for the past 50 years you had no problems with these sex crimes by Democrats
I’m only 48. 😉 Isn’t only a sex crime if it’s a Democrat?

Republicans are, ahem, prolife. So what’s a little grabbing , or bringing an eight grader to your home to address and fondle. What’s a little victim blaming and slut shaming?


See. She’s a problem child. 😠

And we wonder why woman don’t come forward.
 
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So, the truth emerges.
It’s almost like we go through the talking point of the day for the Moore defenders and then you bring up the same one again the next day. So, let me point out again that you are talking about only one of the nine Moore accusers and that Moore is a proven lair.
 
Well said and spot on Abysiannia!👍
So, it’s ok to vote for a child molester because he’ll get investigated by the Senate if he is elected. And that makes sense to you? Wow, so much for claiming the moral high ground.
 
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