I have before. In response to you. And you said you don’t think it applied as I thought it did. Do you not remember these conversations? I have concerns I am talking to a different Ridgerunner. Maybe several people sharing the same account. Something that I might expect a Russian troll farmer to do. Naw, couldn’t be.
Actually, you didn’t, and you know it.
Wow. Now I have serious doubts that I am talking to the same person. Yes, we went back and forth in July. This is about the fifth time that you have insisted that I repeat myself. I am seriously concerned for your health that you can’t remember this. Unless of course, you are a Russian troll that has replaced the original Ridgerunner, in which case, you don’t remember because you just got hired and not because of health issues.
But there has to be a crime which one conspires to commit. What crime did Trump or his team conspire to commit? Be specific about that. If we’re going to accuse people of committing crimes or conspiring to do it, we ought to be able to name the crime. If we can’t we shouldn’t make the accusation.
You have worn out the ill-mannered troll thing. Either point out the crime of “collusion” in the USC or just admit you have no idea what crime you’re accusing Trump or his people of committing.
I’m sure a Russian troll would find being called out as ill-mannered. Again, we’ve been through this and I’m not going through it again. All joking aside, I am really concerned about your inability to remember multiple conversations we’ve had on this very same topic.
The emails released by Trump, Jr show clear intent to collude with the Russian government to get ‘dirt’ on his father’s political opponent. Is that criminal? I think so, but I admit I am not a lawyer and not one to necessarily have the knowledge to correctly interpret the law. So, if a fellow says he just murdered someone, I am inclined to believe he is a murderer even though he hasn’t been convicted in court yet.
Actually, we don’t know what has been found or not found yet. None of us are privied to that information yet.
PLEASE STOP POSTING NONSENSE you’ve acknowledged is nonsense.
Maybe English is not your first language, but I hate to tell you that, in no way, does what I wrote there suggest that “collusion is not a crime”. I said I think it is a crime, have said that before and will continue to say that, but I have admitted I am not a lawyer and may be misinterpreting the law.
Why is it illegal to get your facts from the russian govt but not a private source?
Gosh, we’ve been through this on the forum before. It is illegal to receive contributions from foreign nationals (see Section 30121 of Title 52 of federal campaign law). The intention to receive information is a form of a contribution and the person he was meeting with he knew to be a foreign national. It is also illegal for receive any thing of value in a political campaign from a foreign government, which ‘dirt’ would qualify as (IMO).
niceatheist:
Am I being unreasonable? The Whitewater investigation ended up being all about a blue dress and perjury, which was not the purpose of the investigation. The Valerie Plame “unmasking” investigation turned into a conviction that the key witness later disavowed, while the actual “unmasker” skated. And, of course, it turned out Plame wasn’t “unmasked” as a covert agent at all.
And the Watergate investigation lead to Nixon resigning before his inevitable impeachment, conviction and removal from office. You seem to be cherry picking Federal investigations to make your point. Can you give me a percentage of such investigations carried out in, say, the last fifty years that you think were invalid?niceatheist:
Am I being unreasonable? The Whitewater investigation ended up being all about a blue dress and perjury, which was not the purpose of the investigation. The Valerie Plame “unmasking” investigation turned into a conviction that the key witness later disavowed, while the actual “unmasker” skated. And, of course, it turned out Plame wasn’t “unmasked” as a covert agent at all.
So you are assuming his guilt with the knowledge that you are not sure that what he did was criminal?josie_L:
The emails released by Trump, Jr show clear intent to collude with the Russian government to get ‘dirt’ on his father’s political opponent. Is that criminal? I think so, but I admit I am not a lawyer and not one to necessarily have the knowledge to correctly interpret the law. So, if a fellow says he just murdered someone, I am inclined to believe he is a murderer even though he hasn’t been convicted in court yet.
'I believe that a reasonable reading of the law indicates he broke it and he admitted as much. I admit there may be nuances to the law I don’t understand.
Probably because it is part of a larger investigation and the prosecutor is trying to get all his ducks in a row before handing out indictments because it sounds that there may be even more criminal behavior in the inner circle of Trump’s campaign.