S.F. Catholic Church priest bans girls as altar servers

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hwriggles4 said:
KSU:

Thanks for posting. However, I realized this morning that I goofed. Keating passed away in 1999, not 1990. Honestly, Keating was in Rome during his Ad Lima visit at that time when he succumbed to a heart attack.

There are quite a few courageous priests in the Arlington Diocese. I second Fr. Paul Scalia, and I am familiar with Fr. Daniel Mode, who is currently serving on active duty in the Navy, and with Fr. Eric Albertson, who I believe is still active duty Army. I have met Fr. Brian Bashista, who has an interesting vocation story, and Tim Staples brother is also a priest serving in the Arlington Diocese.

Yes, Richmond did have a handful of problems. DiLorenzo did some housecleaning after his arrival there. One priest I know has been assigned to Richmond (his home diocese is overseas), and I privately gave him some information about some of the things that happened there under the previous ordinary.

KSU, from friends who lived in Northern Virginia, I heard there were quite a few Catholics who made the drive from the Richmond Diocese to the Arlington Diocese in the 80s and 90s. Arlington and Richmond were like night and day. This was also common in other parts of the country (i.e. Milwaukee driving to Peoria, Saginaw driving to Gaylord or Lansing, Rochester driving elsewhere) during the 70s, 80s, and 90s. When Carlson arrived in Saginaw circa 2004, vocations were at an all-time low. Two years later, Saginaw had nearly 20 seminarians. Not long after that, Carlson became Archbishop of St. Louis.

Appreciate the feedback.
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So many, many great memories of that diocese; just a few bad ones.

Bishop Keating passed away in 1998.

BTW, you mentioned Fr. Eric Albertson–he married my wife and me, then became a great military Chaplin. catholicworldreport.com/Item/1578/We_have_to_go_where_the_suffering_and_dying_are.aspx.
 
ProVobis said:
I don’t know if co-ed at this age is all that good but I’m not going to say it’s bad either.
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I don’t know either, but I am only speaking as things are, not as they should be. But you have a good point about boy’s schools. The degree to which segregation is practiced in school might weight the prudence of a boys only program. I do not think the coupling thing is an issue. No one really has their child serve the altar to hook up with another child, do they?
 
pnewton said:
I do not think the coupling thing is an issue. No one really has their child serve the altar to hook up with another child, do they?
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I never claimed to understand parents. Just trying to observe. 🙂
 
San Fran church official on teacher contracts: “The Archbishop has not repealed anything”
In a Feb. 24 statement, Father Piderit offered the following clarification:
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The Archbishop has not repealed anything. He is adding explanations, clarifications, and material on Catholic social teaching, via a committee of religion teachers he is establishing. The committee is to expand some areas of the material to be included in the faculty handbook, and clarify other areas by adding material. Nothing already planned to go in is being removed or retracted or withdrawn.

With respect to the use of the word “ministers,” the Archbishop only said that “ministers” is no longer being considered. That is all the Archbishop said. The word currently being used is “ministry.” Nonetheless, the Archbishop did say that he would work hard to find language that satisfies two needs. One is the need to protect the rights of the teachers in the Catholic high schools to have complaints fairly treated. The other is the right of the Archdiocese to run Catholic schools that are faithful to their mission. Language must be identified that meets both needs. Even if a substitute for “ministry” is found, the substitute must guarantee that the teachers in the Catholic archdiocesan high schools promote the Catholic mission of the institutions.
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If our priest pulled a stunt like this we’d find a new parish.
 
Sure, some have left. That was their choice as it was the choice of the many who left before the new priest arrived. "Attendance had been so low " said Fr. Joseph “…that the only way to go is up!” And they are on their way. Attendance is up and donations are growing. God bless Fr. Joseph and his parishioners.
 
Maxirad said:
I wonder if the priest in question desires to bar married men from serving as deacons.
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I am not sure what barrring married men from serving as Deacons has to do with Altar boys vs girls serving Mass. Frankly speaking I served Holy Mass as an Altar boy albeit briefly prior to the change/V-2…and altar servers seem to me, in most cases the least bit inerested in what’s happening…they, for the most part seem to lack a sense of reverence for what is takin place and their actions in assisting don’t seem that pertinent and could easily be accomplishced by a Deacon. I applaud the Bishop in the Diocese…
 
Maybe the parish in question should only offer the Traditional Latin Mass.
 
Lack of respect for authority is a growing problem not only in the church but in the civil world as well. We should obey those in authority. Children should obey their parents. We should obey our police officers when they give a command. If there is a mistake or misunderstanding it can be worked out. And we should respect the authority of our pastor. Give him the chance to explain why he is doing what he is doing. If you do not understand or agree with what he is doing, at least respect his authority to do what he is doing so long as it is not a violation of Church rules. When people do not respect authority, the result is chaos.
 
on_the_hill said:
If our priest pulled a stunt like this we’d find a new parish.
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In a large city, there are options, so why not find one more conducive to one’s own spiritual needs. I find it ironic that with just one parish in the city doing this that public officials have to stick their nose in, proving to all who will take note that they are not the bastion of diversity they imagine themselves to be.
 
zab said:
Lack of respect for authority is a growing problem not only in the church but in the civil world as well. We should obey those in authority. Children should obey their parents. ** We should obey our police officers when they give a command.** If there is a mistake or misunderstanding it can be worked out. And we should respect the authority of our pastor. Give him the chance to explain why he is doing what he is doing. If you do not understand or agree with what he is doing, at least respect his authority to do what he is doing so long as it is not a violation of Church rules. When people do not respect authority, the result is chaos.
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Not when the authority is illegitimate. There are many rights those in authority can not take from you, no matter the reason.
 
pnewton said:
I find it ironic that with just one parish in the city doing this that public officials have to stick their nose in, proving to all who will take note that they are not the bastion of diversity they imagine themselves to be.
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SWolf said:
Not when the authority is illegitimate. There are many rights those in authority can not take from you, no matter the reason.
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Well if the officer tells you to hit someone or kill someone, obviously that is illegitimate. But if an officer tells you to put your hands up, or tells you to put your iron golf club on the ground whether or not you have done anything illegal or wrong, you should obey the officer and not run away or give a bunch of lip. The officer has a right to assess a situation without being attacked verbally and physically because he/she is doing their job.
 
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