I was discussing the issue of indifference to or support of same sex “marriage” in society. An active support of changing the definition of marriage from a legal standpoint absolutely is cheering on sexual sin. This is wrong.
Let me put it this way then, what does God say to you. What does God say to us in his word.
His word says it is an abominination. I go with God, I have to. I have no right to say its not a sin.Indeed, the thing is that, if one chooses to associate oneself with a particular theological meta-position, then one takes on the consequences of that in terms of one’s position on various issues. In Judaism, it’s not just what’s in the Torah, there’s the whole mass of ‘Oral Torah’ has to be taken into account.
He has told you, O man, what is good,
This is it. This is actually what I am looking for. FTA777 just answered my question.
Well, at least speaking as a faithful Catholic, I don’t support same sex marriage, and yes, I do believe that if I did support it, I would be doing my brothers and sisters in Christ a diservice. It would be supporting a deeply disordered and sinful lifestyle, even though it is accepted and approached nowadays with ever increasing apathy by a society which more and more equates Civil law with the laws of God. It is a sadness which overwhelms me sometimes. I know all I can do is pray, and tell the truth for those who have ears to hear. It doesn’t seem like enough, but I know that I can pray, and offer myself to the service of God. I have faith that He will prevail in the long run.
OK, that’s what I was looking for, your definition of “accept.” You mean not saying anything. Well, I think there’s a time and place for everything. If the couple are friends of yours then it may not always be appropriate for you to make an issue out of their personal sex life especially if they are already committed to each other, although Orthodox Jews are taught not to allow other Jews to stumble. But this is my opinion. And BTW I don’t recall having expressed in this thread my own view about whether homosexual marriages are a sin; on other threads I have. You asked about the perspective according to different faiths and I provided you with the distinction between Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform branches of Judaism. Are you interested in perspectives that differ from those of your own religion or are you mainly interested in discussing your own faith-based point of view? Either way is fine with me.
Since were thinking hypothetically here…I ask again…perhaps more clearly…do you exercise the some restraint with your “straight friends” and tell them that ABC is wrong…and because it is grave matter and a sin, you cannot do what ever you could not do with gay people? Not sure why one would need to “point out the sin” of a gay person over and above the sin of a loved straight one? For me…it’s an issue of equality…do we treat all people equally in regard to our “scruples”?
I know those who care for the sick, care about the poor, the hungry, the thirsty, the homeless, those in need of clothing, serve Him, are righteous and will inherit the kingdom. Jesus very clearly said that. (Matt 25:31-46.) And I imagine there are homosexuals doing such things. Peace.
There is no such thing as same sex marriage.
Rinnie, you say there is no right or wrong answer but then on the otherhand you say it is clear what God says and we are to spread His word even after someone such as Publisher explains to you it is not clear and he does not believe God is sayng what your opinion is in regards to what you believe God is saying.Let me put it this way then, what does God say to you. What does God say to us in his word.
In my faith we are taught to stand up for his word.
But do you think God wants up to spread his word or close our eyes.
There is no right or wrong answer for anyone. I am asking a opinion is all.
Just wanted to see what others feel.
What do we feel God wants of us. To tell his truth or not. That is more of my question. OR to just close our eyes and let this continue?
Caring for those in need should be shared by all loving person’s.
Publisher you might be having a hard time because it isn’t.
I am sure there are homosexuals doing good works, as well as heterosexuals. Please be aware that good works do not cover unrepentant sin - whether a person be acting on their sexuality (whether they be homosexual or heterosexual) and rationalizing it.
If the conversation of ABC were to come up with my straight friends, then yes, I would share with them what the Catholic church teaches. I would always assume that practicing catholics who follow the churches teaching are not using ABC. The difference, IMO, is this: when two people of the same sex express their love for one another and choose to live with one another, I am making the assumption that they are not living chastely. I would assume the same for a straight couple living together. As a catholic, I would encourage both parties to reconsider their state of life.
No I am asking people actually on a personal level this time, but also according to thier own faith.
Matt the reason there is no right and wrong answer because how can I tell you are wrong if you tell me you do not think it is right for you to spead Gods word to someone. Thats your opinion. Are you not entitiled to it.Rinnie, you say there is no right or wrong answer but then on the otherhand you say it is clear what God says and we are to spread His word even after someone such as Publisher explains to you it is not clear and he does not believe God is sayng what your opinion is in regards to what you believe God is saying.
And this to me Dorothy is what IMO our way of doing what God wants of us. While we can hate the sin we indeed love the sinner.