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Remarks like this (no matter how wrong they may be) is the kind of stuff that his base just laps up.
The bulk of his supporters don’t care about facts. If Bernie tells them the eeeeeeeevil corporations are trying to kill them, they’ll believe it.

What a complete joke Sanders is, but it’s no longer a laughing matter. He’s not qualified to be dogcatcher, but in our new Idiocracy, he’s got a legitimate shot at President. 😦
 
The bulk of his supporters don’t care about facts. If Bernie tells them the eeeeeeeevil corporations are trying to kill them, they’ll believe it.

What a complete joke Sanders is, but it’s no longer a laughing matter. He’s not qualified to be dogcatcher, but in our new Idiocracy, he’s got a legitimate shot at President. 😦
Has Verizon paid taxes in every year in the last ten years? If not then it is not clear that Sanders is lying. He may be exaggerating and pandering to his base, but that is nothing new. In the last election, Mitt Romney claimed that Obama was going to cut medicare and that was a blatant falsehood. So dishonesty is not something that is unique to democrats.
 
If Bernie Sanders wins the election, I will write a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin letting him know how much better Russia is than America. Russia rejected socialism. America would be embracing it. Our Lady of Fatima indicated that something like this would happen. It is up to Russia to stop its error of socialism now.
 
I did not say that Russia currently has a socialist government. They currently have a conservative government. They did have a socialist government from 1917-1991 though. Our Lady of Fatima said that Russia would spread her error of socialism throughout the world. Putin and Yeltsin are the saviors of Russia. I would write to Putin to tell him that I do not like the American government and that I prefer Russia’s government. I would hope that he would give me some advice or encouragement on how to deal with America’s socialist government.
 
I did not say that Russia currently has a socialist government. They currently have a conservative government. They did have a socialist government from 1917-1991 though. Our Lady of Fatima said that Russia would spread her error of socialism throughout the world. Putin and Yeltsin are the saviors of Russia. I would write to Putin to tell him that I do not like the American government and that I prefer Russia’s government. I would hope that he would give me some advice or encouragement on how to deal with America’s socialist government.
Or you could just move there if you think it is better.

You are aware that abortion was the main form of birth control until very rencently, with some women having more than 25, yes twenty five abortions. Even as they consider changing the law, it is not necessarily because of sanctity of life but because of a concern over birth rates and declining population. Do a Google search on abortion in Russia today.
 
If Bernie Sanders wins the election, I will write a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin letting him know how much better Russia is than America. Russia rejected socialism. America would be embracing it. Our Lady of Fatima indicated that something like this would happen. It is up to Russia to stop its error of socialism now.
I’m sure Putin will be very happy to hear from you. :rolleyes:
 
Sanders Says Verizon ‘in a Given Year Has Not Paid a Nickel in Taxes’ — So CEO Releases Inconvenient Numbers in Scathing Response

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The reactions are funny (humourous). 🙂

Verizon
Corporate Tax Dodger
americansfortaxfairness.org/files/Verizon-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf

Verizon is the nation’s largest cellular phone operator, with 115 million customers. Verizon paid less in federal income taxes in recent years than many of its customers.
  • Verizon made $19.3 billion in U.S. pretax profits from 2008 to 2012, yet didn’t pay any federal income taxes during the period. Instead, it got $535 million in tax rebates.
  • Verizon’s effective federal income tax rate was negative 2.8% from 2008 to 2012. The official corporate tax rate is 35%. This difference allowed Verizon to avoid $7.3 billion in taxes.
  • Verizon had $1.9 billion in accumulated offshore profits in 2012, on which it did not pay U.S. taxes.
  • While dodging federal taxes, Verizon pocketed $956 million in federal contracts in 2011 and landed a 9-year contract worth $5 billion.
  • Verizon shows that cutting taxes doesn’t create jobs. It pays nothing in taxes, but that hasn’t stopped it from slashing 28,500 jobs over the last four years.
 
Do any of you people know of any current military personnel for Bernie Sanders?
 
Do any of you people know of any current military personnel for Bernie Sanders?
The most notable one I can think of is Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. She served in Iraq. She was also a leader in the Democratic National Committee until she resigned because party rules wouldn’t let her endorse a candidate and remain in the leadership.
 
Has Verizon paid taxes in every year in the last ten years? If not then it is not clear that Sanders is lying. He may be exaggerating and pandering to his base, but that is nothing new. In the last election, Mitt Romney claimed that Obama was going to cut medicare and that was a blatant falsehood. So dishonesty is not something that is unique to democrats.
Verizon responded to his claim calling it a baseless lie, and provided specific numbers for taxes paid. It is incumbent upon Sanders and his supporters to support their claim.
 
Verizon responded to his claim calling it a baseless lie, and provided specific numbers for taxes paid. It is incumbent upon Sanders and his supporters to support their claim.
You are claiming that they paid corporate income tax in each year for the past ten years?
 
The reactions are funny (humourous). 🙂

Verizon
Corporate Tax Dodger
americansfortaxfairness.org/files/Verizon-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf

Verizon is the nation’s largest cellular phone operator, with 115 million customers. Verizon paid less in federal income taxes in recent years than many of its customers.
  • Verizon made $19.3 billion in U.S. pretax profits from 2008 to 2012, yet didn’t pay any federal income taxes during the period. Instead, it got $535 million in tax rebates.
  • Verizon’s effective federal income tax rate was negative 2.8% from 2008 to 2012. The official corporate tax rate is 35%. This difference allowed Verizon to avoid $7.3 billion in taxes.
  • Verizon had $1.9 billion in accumulated offshore profits in 2012, on which it did not pay U.S. taxes.
  • While dodging federal taxes, Verizon pocketed $956 million in federal contracts in 2011 and landed a 9-year contract worth $5 billion.
  • Verizon shows that cutting taxes doesn’t create jobs. It pays nothing in taxes, but that hasn’t stopped it from slashing 28,500 jobs over the last four years.
If Verizon paid no income taxes in those years, why are they quoting pre-tax income? What was their after-tax income so we can compare? My doubts are raised at the info coming from such a biased source.
 
If Verizon paid no income taxes in those years, why are they quoting pre-tax income? What was their after-tax income so we can compare? My doubts are raised at the info coming from such a biased source.
I checked Bernie’s figures with one of the online financial databases at my school, they report the following federal income tax payments over this period. So Bernie is not lying, the figures add up to what he claims.

Year Fed Income tax (millions)

2012 223,000
2011 193,000
2010 (705,000)
2009 (611,000)
2008 365,000
 
I checked Bernie’s figures with one of the online financial databases at my school, they report the following federal income tax payments over this period. So Bernie is not lying, the figures add up to what he claims.

Year Fed Income tax (millions)

2012 223,000
2011 193,000
2010 (705,000)
2009 (611,000)
2008 365,000
What were their profits for each year?
 
I checked Bernie’s figures with one of the online financial databases at my school, they report the following federal income tax payments over this period. So Bernie is not lying, the figures add up to what he claims.

Year Fed Income tax (millions)

2012 223,000
2011 193,000
2010 (705,000)
2009 (611,000)
2008 365,000
Bernie doesn’t lie.
 
What were their profits for each year?
The tax I reported earlier was in thousands as well, not millions.

Year Income (thousands)
2012 9,897,000
2011 10,483,000
2010 12,684,000
2009 11,568,000
2008 9,759,000
 
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