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Lily_Bernans said:
LOL There are a lot of Southern states in the top 12 or so. Much more so than the northern states.
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The South receives more “govt” money because of the number of Military bases there and the large number of retirees that live there. Ever wonder why people dont retire to NY?
 
estesbob said:
The South receives more “govt” money because of the number of Military bases there and the large number of retirees that live there. Ever wonder why people dont retire to NY?
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Social Security and Medicare redistribute income from those who work to those who won’t work, so it is hard to argue that they are not welfare programs.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Perhaps that explains why many of the biggest welfare recipient states are in the south. It is pretty amusing to hear people from the south complain about socialism, when much of the south is dependent on it.

wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
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So you are acknowledging that people in the South should know what they are talking about, when they discuss the harmful effects of a welfare state and how it can create welfare class, addicted to Gub $$ like an addict to crack?
 
Theo520 said:
So you are acknowledging that people in the South should know what they are talking about, when they discuss the harmful effects of a welfare state and how it can create welfare class, addicted to Gub $$ like an addict to crack?
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When I see the welfare recipients volunteering to give up their benefits, then they will have credibility. My point however, is that “southern values” whatever that means is not unequivocally good if it breeds a large class of welfare recipients.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
It is private information, I have no information on how much any one individual gives. But I can make inferences from our totals to get an average level of giving and I know the average level of income.
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I do not think it’s fair for you to pass your “inferences” on to others in a judgemental way. I also put money in the “special” collections that are not on the record!. Basically it isn’t anyone’s business who and what I do donate to. God Bless, Memaw
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I don’t personally know Bernie, either, Sy, but I do know when asked what he considered his greatest accomplish, he said it was his marriage and children. To me, that sounds like a man who values his family very much.

He also said, and I’m sure you recall, that being Jewish was very important to him, a part of his identity. To me, that sounds like he values his faith.

Like you, I find Bernie Sanders to be a very responsible and honest person, who really seems to care about the US and the people who live here.

If all that’s socialism, I’ll take some more. The US needs it.
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👍 And I never did understand the concept that a President determines whether I value faith. I don’t know about you but I’ve prayed during both Republican and Democratic administrations just the same. During the last 7 yrs just as I did the previous 8. The President could be Jewish like Bernie or Muslim like Congressman Keith Ellison from Minnesota who supports Bernie, and it wouldn’t affect my faith. But I never did grasp the concept I guess. 🤷
 
J_Peterson said:
Also, Bernie is not an atheist. He believes in God and speaks like a man that believes so I can conclude that he has faith as well. I guess Bernie is all in as far as Southern Values go.
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Exactly! 👍 And Bernie has even spoke about The Golden Rule in a debate.
 
estesbob said:
The South receives more “govt” money because of the number of Military bases there and the large number of retirees that live there. Ever wonder why people dont retire to NY?
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The weather. Of course as it gets too hot with climate change where they retire could change.
 
sallybutler said:
Guess what. Northern values are faith, family, and responsibility. So are Western values. So are Eastern values. So are MidWest, So are – well, you get the idea.

When you say something like that, many might infer that you are suggesting those who are not from the South or live elsewhere don’t have those selfsame values.

I certainly hope that is an incorrect inference.
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:clapping: As a son of the north and midwest, I didn’t need to move south for values.
 
Sy_Noe said:
:clapping: As a son of the north and midwest, I didn’t need to move south for values.
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You traded tornadoes for hurricanes and dust storms. 😉

I’e been in three tornadoes; one I SLEPT through in Venezuela! That’s how soundly I sleep. I woke up, looked out, and saw the suburb I was in in shambles. Quite shocked. I was lucky I lived.
 
Crossbones said:
And all the fresh water being in the north too.
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Obviously, you have never been to the Ozarks, the Ouachitas or (for all I know) the Smokies. Best and most abundant water in the nation. 🙂 Drill anywhere and you’ll get good, clean, cold limestone water.

I remember seeing that long ago the then Frisco Railroad had a special train called the “TExas Special” that brought people straight through from torrid South Texas to the Ozarks in the hottest part of the summer so they could enjoy the pleasantly cool night temperatures and bathe in the cold water of the creeks and springs. It had a branch line into southern Louisiana so they could do it too.
 
J_Peterson said:
Also, Bernie is not an atheist. He believes in God and speaks like a man that believes so I can conclude that he has faith as well. I guess Bernie is all in as far as Southern Values go.
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Mr. Sanders has stated that he believes in God; however, Mr. Sanders does not belong to a synagogue in either Burlington, VT or Washington, D.C. and has stated that he is “not active in any organized religion”:
Published: February 5th, 2016
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A week earlier, Sanders told The Washington Post that despite the fact that he is “not active in any organized religion” he believes in God. It made him an instant hero with the atheist crowd, who reveled at the idea of an American president who does not profess his faith or wears it on his sleeve . . .
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The 73-year-old democratic socialist Senator from Vermont is Jewish and secular, doesn’t belong to a synagogue either in Burlington or in Washington, D.C. He is, however, a strong supporter of Israel, refused to criticize Israel’s actions in Gaza in 2014, and spent a few months in 1963 on kibbutz Sha’ar Ha’amakim (Hashomer Hatzair) in western Galilee.
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http://www.jewishpress.com/news/bernie-sanders-claims-very-strong-religious-feelings/2016/02/05/
 
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