Satanism in Popular Culture

[MonikaBarbara]

I was listening to an exorcist’s homily recorded on CD while driving yesterday, and just thought that I would share some of the scarier pieces of information I learned.

In the Harry Potter books, the incantations to call demons are quoted word for word.

As for the vampire hype nowadays: Vampire Satanism is the worst kind of Satanism.

The exorcist recommended avoiding both Harry Potter and vampires like the devil, no pun intended.

And just something horrid I discovered on my own a few months ago: in Disney’s The Little Mermaid, in the scene where the chef is singing and preparing dinner, there is an oath against the Virgin Mary. The part: “Sacre bleu, what is this?/How on earth could I miss/Such a sweet little succulent crab”…apparently, the “Sacre bleu” is translated as ‘sacred blue’ an oath referring to Mary. But then again, considering Ariel’s attire when she is turned into a human, I think that most of us probably figured out that it wasn’t the purest of movies.

 

[RPRPsych]

I was listening to an exorcist’s homily recorded on CD while driving yesterday, and just thought that I would share some of the scarier pieces of information I learned.

While the demonic is a real danger, I’d recommend caution:

In the Harry Potter books, the incantations to call demons are quoted word for word.

I’ve read all those books (for research, not pleasure), and though they have numerous flaws in writing, plot and morals, there are no “incantations to call demons” in them. Instead, there are “magic spells” written in cod-Latin.

And just something horrid I discovered on my own a few months ago: in Disney’s The Little Mermaid, in the scene where the chef is singing and preparing dinner, there is an oath against the Virgin Mary. The part: “Sacre bleu, what is this?/How on earth could I miss/Such a sweet little succulent crab”…apparently, the “Sacre bleu” is translated as ‘sacred blue’ an oath referring to Mary. But then again, considering Ariel’s attire when she is turned into a human, I think that most of us probably figured out that it wasn’t the purest of movies.

“Sacre bleu” is a pretty innocuous minced oath in French, just as “Zounds!” or “Marry!” is in English. It’s nothing to get too worked up about, and it’s certainly not Satanic (though it is disrespectful.)

 

[edwest2]

I was listening to an exorcist’s homily recorded on CD while driving yesterday, and just thought that I would share some of the scarier pieces of information I learned.

In the Harry Potter books, the incantations to call demons are quoted word for word.

As for the vampire hype nowadays: Vampire Satanism is the worst kind of Satanism.

The exorcist recommended avoiding both Harry Potter and vampires like the devil, no pun intended.

And just something horrid I discovered on my own a few months ago: in Disney’s The Little Mermaid, in the scene where the chef is singing and preparing dinner, there is an oath against the Virgin Mary. The part: “Sacre bleu, what is this?/How on earth could I miss/Such a sweet little succulent crab”…apparently, the “Sacre bleu” is translated as ‘sacred blue’ an oath referring to Mary. But then again, considering Ariel’s attire when she is turned into a human, I think that most of us probably figured out that it wasn’t the purest of movies.

It also goes by the name Occult, then it changed to New Age. Satanism is a real threat. We should heed good advice and avoid anything that promotes or refers to satanic, Occult or New Age beliefs/practices. The Devil does his best to deceive people, especially when he changes the outward packaging.

Peace,
Ed

 

[FrenzyJen]

But then again, considering Ariel’s attire when she is turned into a human, I think that most of us probably figured out that it wasn’t the purest of movies.

??? She wears normal, decent dresses the entirety of being human. Or are you talking about the sail that she covered up with on the beach?

http://www.strangelikethat.com/stra.../uploads/2013/07/ArielSailDress_1-300x209.png

Because even that is still pretty covered up.

 

[Kithrus]

Oh boy /rolls eyes.

Listen, the devil is a threat the same way anything material is a threat. I refuse to live in fear and look over my shoulder every time I do something.

Yes, the devil aka Satan is one of THE most powerful beings in existence BUT he is still bound by rules. He can not tempt you more then you can handle and he can’t hurt you without permission. He is not inclined to show himself because he kinda proves God is real if he does.

Frankly I’d be really happy if I ever caught a glimpse of him taking shape because then I get to mock him for being so stupid for becoming something I can fight before grabbing my katana and attempting to remove his head.

That’s not to say I’m not afraid but I won’t be bullied by a angel that quit his job and doesn’t have anything better to do.

 

[coachdennis]

From dictionary.com concerning sacrebleu:

Word Origin & History

sacre bleu
stereotypical Fr. oath, 1869, from Fr. sacré bleu, lit. “holy blue,” a euphemism for sacré Dieu (1768), “holy God.”

So it is no different than saying “oh shoot” instead of something else

And as others said, there are no real incantations in Harry potter books.

And now for the ranting part of this post:

In my opinion the exorcist, by using ridiculous examples and giving into conspiracy theories usually promoted by 16 year olds around a campfire, does nothing for his argument. In fact, he feeds into the negative stereotypes people have of people of faith - ignorant know-nothings who are afraid of their own shadow because the devil is lurking behind every tree – BOO!

If you truly want to see Satan in modern culture just watch one episode of “Entertainment Tonight!”

 

[youkokun]

Anything which promotes morals contrary to those taught by the Gospels and the Church Tradition can be called Satanic insofar as it only leads people away from Jesus and toward the world. I forgot where I read that; it’s only the gist of it. The point was, I think, that you just need to be aware and maybe discuss the inadequacies of these media with your loved ones if you feel the Holy Spirit prompting you.

Yep, vampire stories are all the rage right now. I had an Anne Rice period; the main draw is the sensuous imagery, which I now find ironic: imagine how painful! If they’re Satanic it’s because they’re stupid and they lead people to think stupidly, trying to call black white.

I wasn’t allowed to read Harry Potter while the series was being published. Naturally, I spent my lunches at elementary school reading while not daring to bring the books home. Conclusion: good story, wishy-washy morals as RPRPsych said, but fairy innocuous concerning witchcraft. Monsters are clearly identified as monsters. The ghosts always bugged me, though.

As to the Little Mermaid: it’s barely one step above Disney’s Pocahontas! Horrible! Yeah, I guess parents actually have been showing this movie to their children for a couple decades now; can you believe it? Ariel is the worst role-model Disney has produced for little girls to date. If you ask me, King Triton had the actual learning curve and character development, but he was in the right from the beginning, while Ariel gets exactly what she wants without any sacrifice or growth…even secular sources recognize this. See bandgeek’s Books vs Movies review or, if brave, Nostalgia Chick (feminazi), for thorough repudiations from decidedly irreligious people. I’ll agree with the OP on this one not because of the mild French oath, but because it’s a lousy flick with the “elders, listen to your children and grant their whims; for they are wiser than you’d expect from hormonal and unstable kids with incompletely formed brains” message we’ve seen CONSTANTLY.

 

[RPRPsych]

If you truly want to see Satan in modern culture just watch one episode of “Entertainment Tonight!”

Or the average talk / reality show.

 

[MonikaBarbara]

??? She wears normal, decent dresses the entirety of being human. Or are you talking about the sail that she covered up with on the beach?

Because even that is still pretty covered up.

I am referring to the fact that right after she is turned into a human, she is wearing absolutely nothing below her waistline, and even though they don’t explicitly show it on screen, it is pretty easy to figure out, even for a four-year-old.

 

[Catolico65]

Promoting Satan’s ways is a trillion dollar business in the US.

From state sponsored child sacrifice to indoctrination of children via “sex education” to the tv, movie, music industry and liberal press. The fact is the US is awash in satanism.

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

This kind of criticism of Harry Potter makes no sense to me. I don’t even care for it all that much, but these criticisms border on the preposterous.

The titular character rejects and fights evil.

He overcomes it with courage, selflessness and sacrifice.

None of the heroes or heroines ever “summon a demon”,

The “spells” are either simple latin words or mangled latin words, there’s no “real” magic or witchcraft anywhere throughout the series.

So…

I am referring to the fact that right after she is turned into a human, she is wearing absolutely nothing below her waistline, and even though they don’t explicitly show it on screen, it is pretty easy to figure out, even for a four-year-old.

I want to be sure that I’m getting this right.

It sounds like you’re saying that your concern in this case isn’t about children seeing real nudity, or seeing cartoon nudity even, but potentially inferring cartoon nudity.

And, furthermore, children potentially inferring that there must be cartoon nudity that they aren’t seeing has something or other to do with satanism? Is that right?

 

[RPRPsych]

Or with the illustration I have in a very old (early 20th century) copy of David Copperfield, which clearly shows David’s mother breastfeeding her child.

 

[RPRPsych]

I know, but what could you expect from an adulterous, Protestant heretic like Dickens (and his illustrators, who probably belonged to the Satanic “Church of England” as well) anyway?

(Note for those with an SLD in sarcasm: the above is meant to parody the mentality of those who start and perpetuate moral panics. Dickens was a great author, and a man whose Christianity was clearly visible in his writings - A Tale of Two Cities and A Christmas Carol come to mind.)

 

[Razanir]

The “spells” are either simple latin words or mangled latin words

Not always. Apparently avada kedavra is mangled Aramaic. But yeah. For the most part, the spells are faux-Latin

I am referring to the fact that right after she is turned into a human, she is wearing absolutely nothing below her waistline, and even though they don’t explicitly show it on screen, it is pretty easy to figure out, even for a four-year-old.

:ehh: That’s your problem with it? She puts on a sail shortly afterward, it makes more sense than her magically having pants all of a sudden, and it’s not like they show anything anyway.

 

[punisherthunder]

Little Mermaid is Satanic???

I remember being shown this on video in the 80s when I was a kid and I didn’t notice anything sinister.

Last year my wife and I were at Disney World and on their in-house television, they showed the Little Mermaid. Again, I noticed nothing sinister or inappropriate. If I had a 5 or 6 year old daughter, I’d have no issues with letting her watch the film.

 

[Kithrus]

Little Mermaid is Satanic???

I remember being shown this on video in the 80s when I was a kid and I didn’t notice anything sinister.

Last year my wife and I were at Disney World and on their in-house television, they showed the Little Mermaid. Again, I noticed nothing sinister or inappropriate. If I had a 5 or 6 year old daughter, I’d have no issues with letting her watch the film.

I think the issue most hyper Catholics have is the nudity/modesty issues and the fact she’s disobeying her father.

Well I can kinda understand the first point the second is totally lost on me.

If she is old enough to leave and get married then she’s old enough to make her own choices.

 

[meteoric]

From dictionary.com concerning sacrebleu:
And now for the ranting part of this post:

In my opinion the exorcist, by using ridiculous examples and giving into conspiracy theories usually promoted by 16 year olds around a campfire, does nothing for his argument. In fact, he feeds into the negative stereotypes people have of people of faith - ignorant know-nothings who are afraid of their own shadow because the devil is lurking behind every tree – BOO!

This ties into something I just wrote on the “Unearthing America” thread. The history channel, by showing these BS “documentaries” full of wild speculation and accepting any rumor and legend as true, do a disservice to any real documentaries they might show by having ruined their reputation and making people skeptical of of the truth.

I can see something similar here - if you have to exaggerate and make things up to prove your point, you cast doubt on your point even if your idea is true.

I do hate shows and books that make vampires “sexy” and ignore that they are blood sucking murderous corpses, but I like a good vampire tale now and then and feel no confusion between fictional stories of the supernatural (which almost always get it wrong) and the Real supernatural, which we are encouraged to encounter every day.

Tom A.

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

I think the issue most hyper Catholics have is the nudity/modesty issues and the fact she’s disobeying her father.

Well I can kinda understand the first point the second is totally lost on me.

If she is old enough to leave and get married then she’s old enough to make her own choices.

Could it have something to do with her gender? I don’t know why else they would find it so revolting.

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

I’m sorry, I realize that the previous post could be misinterpreted. What I’m asking is whether some people think it is more of a problem for a woman to disobey her father than for a man to do so?

 

[Peter_J]

I am referring to the fact that right after she is turned into a human, she is wearing absolutely nothing below her waistline, and even though they don’t explicitly show it on screen, it is pretty easy to figure out, even for a four-year-old.

Yes, but if that’s a problem, then I would guess that the four-year-old isn’t being brought up very well.