Satanists conduct "Black Masses." Do they also conduct "Black Bible study services"??

[Imryl]

I’d do my best at being bad not only to please him but for the personal satisfaction that conquoring others would bring.

I have news for you. You don’t need to steal, murder etc to have someone under foot. In fact - being rude, mean or destructive can be very counter productive.

you said you knew if satan saw you trying to please him he wouldnt care and screw you over anyway. So you just didnt go out of your way to please. Because you knew his nature.

Essentially yes. But I can’t say “I know his nature”, I can only guess.

You now go along without any want or expection for reward or what have you from satan.

I now go along? No, not really. I have always been like that. I’m just not a greedy person. I have everything I need.

And you dont play any of the “hurting others games” (molest, kill, etc) stereo typically expected such as have been suggested here because you dont want to go there as they are not what you are after.

Well, I just believe there are other ways of doing things that won’t land me in jail. (I’m sorry latinmass but the fact that you could get away with something doesn’t mean you will. ) What I have generally been after in the past is stated at the bottom of post #89.

 

[Fa_Chan]

That is one of the assumptions of satanism that I have never understood. The point is not for me to do the most vile, disgusting, violent, immoral things that come to mind. I would never physically assault, murder, steal or do any like that.

I already know the state of my soul. It’s not about me, it’s about you.

I want to go back to this because it really brings home the reality of our spiritual warfare with darkness. Though I wish you no harm Imryl, it is clear that you delight in making sure God doesn’t get his children (as you stated in #89) and re-iterate your intentions here with this quote. I want to remind everyone who reads this thread to remember this.

Satan, the Devil, Lucifer thrive on deception, masquerading sometimes as an angel of light. Children of God, do not be deceived by what you may read on this thread. Remember the words of Imryl here: “It’s not about me, it’s about you”.

We are children of light. We are called to be the light of the world. Do not be deceived. Test the spirits. Ask the Holy Spirit to protect your mind and body. Pray the Rosary. Read Scripture. Ask your guardian angels to stand by you during the day and night ready to do battle on your behalf. Praise God always.

Peace…

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

I want to remind everyone who reads this thread to remember this.

Well based on what this thread was originally about I doubt this is a heavily visited thread. Also, threads that have this many posts people don’t want to ‘catch up’ on. It’s basically just Kitty, Dolphin, Latin, you and me here.

do not be deceived by what you may read on this thread. Remember the words of Imryl here: “It’s not about me, it’s about you”.

May I ask what you perceive as being deceptive in this thread? I thought I was being pretty honest and frank.

Test the spirits.

Yickes! Isn’t that forbidden in the bible? I thought christians weren’t allowed to do that.

Ask the Holy Spirit to protect your mind and body. Pray the Rosary. Read Scripture. Ask your guardian angels to stand by you during the day and night ready to do battle on your behalf.

You confuse me sometimes. What denomination are you? Here you sound like a catholic but in almost all other posts you sound like a non-denom christian.

 

[latinmasslover]

I have news for you. You don’t need to steal, murder etc to have someone under foot. In fact - being rude, mean or destructive can be very counter productive.

Well, I just believe there are other ways of doing things that won’t land me in jail. (I’m sorry latinmass but the fact that you could get away with something doesn’t mean you will. ) What I have generally been after in the past is stated at the bottom of post #89.

You will if you know people, which, through family, I do, so yes, I would get away with it, if I got caught, if I chose to live that lifestyle.

Besides, I never said that one had to do those things to follow the devil. It just sounds like you’re saying a satanist wouldn’t want to do those things. He doesn’t care if you end up in jail…taking a loving mother (i assume you’re loving to your daughter) away from her child sounds like something he’d like, as the loss of a mother can have negative effects. Then you could convert all those born-again women in prison. True, bad behavior by some can have a positive effect for others, but considering that many people who do believe in God act as if they don’t, I think instilling indifferentism is not a priority for the devil. Destruction is what he wants…if you won’t lose your faith, make them suffer anyway. To say he doesn’t want this is making him out to be a nice guy, which I don’t think is your intention.

 

[Fa_Chan]

Well based on what this thread was originally about I doubt this is a heavily visited thread. Also, threads that have this many posts people don’t want to ‘catch up’ on. It’s basically just Kitty, Dolphin, Latin, you and me here.

May I ask what you perceive as being deceptive in this thread? I thought I was being pretty honest and frank.

It’s about telling people that Satanists don’t commit crimes, sexually abuse children (SRA) , murder or do other things because they are Satanists. They do. It’s about portraying Satanism in a non-threatening light. No matter how you portray yourself or your religious beliefs/faith the source of all hate, greed, conflict, sin is from the Devil you serve.

If you don’t want to be portrayed or viewed as a “bad apple” in need of deliverance, then you shouldn’t associate with the Devil. As long as you and the Devil are friends/comrades and you serve him, you are one with him in his sin and rebellion.

Let me ask you: do you work with/for demons? conjure them? ask their help? I don’t believe most of the posters understand that who will read this thread. The thing I find most is that demons and Satanists love secrets. They love the hidden things. They don’t like revealing information about themselves. It’s called the sin of omission.

Yickes! Isn’t that forbidden in the bible? I thought christians weren’t allowed to do that.

I John 4:1-6 tells us to do so. Here is a link to a site that does a fair job of commentary:

creationists.org/testthespirits.html

You confuse me sometimes. What denomination are you? Here you sound like a catholic but in almost all other posts you sound like a non-denom christian.

I was Southern Baptist, fell away, studied Catholicism and simply focus now on being a Christian regardless of where I go to church. Sometimes I go to a Catholic Church, sometimes others. I love being at a Catholic Church, anointing myself with holy water and being in the presence of such beautiful things. I sit and pray in the back and speak to God silently.

I don’t categorize the things of God into sects. Truth is truth no matter the denomination. Catholicism is the only branch that understands the communion of saints and angels the best. And it’s the only one that has consistently had the broadest view of the battle between good and evil with a solution for fighting evil. I appreciate Catholicism and find it a beautiful faith, although I can’t personally follow it to the letter.

Peace…

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

It’s about telling people that Satanists don’t commit crimes, sexually abuse children (SRA) , murder or do other things because they are Satanists

But it’s true. There are infinately more people who are not satanists (diabolists) and commit these crimes. The ratio of non-satanists vs. satanists who commit crime may only be larger because of the type of people who are generally attracted to satanism. I’m just trying to put it into a realistic perspective.

Seems to me that you all think we’re mindless, insane, raving, anti-social, uneducated, irrational people. Which simply isn’t the case. Sometimes there’s a lot of thought that goes into what we do.

They do. It’s about portraying Satanism in a non-threatening light.

I’m sure some do, I’ll not deny that. Just don’t generalize. The only time satanism gets threatening is if you’re concerned about eternity.

As long as you and the Devil are friends/comrades and you serve him, you are one with him in his sin and rebellion.

I don’t mind that you consider satanists ‘bad apples’ just don’t confuse rejecting god with homicidal tendencies. There’s much more involved then just going out and causing anarchy.

Let me ask you: do you work with/for demons? conjure them? ask their help? I don’t believe most of the posters understand that who will read this thread. The thing I find most is that demons and Satanists love secrets. They love the hidden things. They don’t like revealing information about themselves. It’s called the sin of omission.

Actually it’s the sin of idolatry. We share in others sin through council and omission.

We don’t share because it’s none of your business. I can’t think of a good reason to share that type of information. Even if someone were interested in becoming a satanist, it would be more entertaining to watch them learn through trial and error.

 

[latinmasslover]

True, serious Satanists are very selective about who they tell their beliefs to.

 

[Fa_Chan]

But it’s true. There are infinately more people who are not satanists (diabolists) and commit these crimes. The ratio of non-satanists vs. satanists who commit crime may only be larger because of the type of people who are generally attracted to satanism. I’m just trying to put it into a realistic perspective.

You didn’t read the statement correctly. I said that satanists commit crimes because they are satanists, which is something you deny. They do it because it’s part of their belief system. (speaking of theistic Satanists/diabolists). All kinds of people commit crime, of course. Many of the people are influenced or possessed by demons.

Seems to me that you all think we’re mindless, insane, raving, anti-social, uneducated, irrational people. Which simply isn’t the case. Sometimes there’s a lot of thought that goes into what we do.

Oh no, the majority of Satanists are intelligent, calcuating individuals who are completely rational. They just perform evil things in an intelligent and methodical way.

I’m sure some do, I’ll not deny that. Just don’t generalize. The only time satanism gets threatening is if you’re concerned about eternity.

I don’t feel threatened by it physically. I feel everyone is threatened spiritually however. Satan can influence people and uses his agents to do so.

I don’t mind that you consider satanists ‘bad apples’ just don’t confuse rejecting god with homicidal tendencies. There’s much more involved then just going out and causing anarchy.

ritual murder is part of Satanic cult activity. I realize you don’t belong to a cult. Yes, there is much more involved. Most of it is masquerading as normal people that just happen to worship the Devil.

Actually it’s the sin of idolatry. We share in others sin through council and omission.

We don’t share because it’s none of your business. I can’t think of a good reason to share that type of information. Even if someone were interested in becoming a satanist, it would be more entertaining to watch them learn through trial and error.

You don’t share because you know your plans can be canceled and the less people know the more you can harm them. Ignorance is a valuable tool for you. It’s all part of the game.

It is my business if you plan on tempting, seducing and harming me and other Christians. If you seek to destroy only yourself that’s your business. When you seek to lead people away from God it is my business and theirs. It is my goal to deliver people from Satan and protect the children of God from the enemy of my God.

And you didn’t answer my question about the demons. I’m assuming you don’t want everyone to know your relationship with them. It’s okay. I know anyway.

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

You didn’t read the statement correctly. I said that satanists commit crimes because they are satanists, which is something you deny.

I never denied that, I said that wasn’t ordinary or necessary.

Ignorance is a valuable tool for you. It’s all part of the game.

I’m sorry, I fail to see how this is a game.

And you didn’t answer my question about the demons. I’m assuming you don’t want everyone to know your relationship with them. It’s okay. I know anyway.

Your question:

Let me ask you: do you work with/for demons? conjure them? ask their help? I don’t believe most of the posters understand that who will read this thread.

My answer:

We don’t share because it’s none of your business. I can’t think of a good reason to share that type of information. Even if someone were interested in becoming a satanist, it would be more entertaining to watch them learn through trial and error.

Frankely I thought the answer is obvious.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Essentially yes. But I can’t say “I know his nature”, I can only guess

I now go along? No, not really. I have always been like that. I’m just not a greedy person. I have everything I need.

hmm when I said you now go along, I meant it as a oh there you are going through life kind of thing, as you always have, your right the net makes it hard sometimes.

Well I guess its more accurate to say you guess his nature, but I have a feeling your a good guesser.

Well, I just believe there are other ways of doing things that won’t land me in jail.

Right, thats why I said what I said, Im aware of this with you.

What I have generally been after in the past is stated at the bottom of post #89.

and why I said your after something else, right?

I should get a star at this point for paying attention. hmm?

 

[Imryl]

Ahhh… I get it now. Yes, gold star for Kitty.

 

[latinmasslover]

I never denied that, I said that wasn’t ordinary or necessary.

Necessary, no really; ordinary, absolutely, it’s just covered up well.

 

[Fa_Chan]

I never denied that, I said that wasn’t ordinary or necessary.

For satanic cults crimes are ordinary. And sometimes necessary to maintain the secrecy and functions of the group.

I’m sorry, I fail to see how this is a game.

The Devil plays lots of games, especially hide and seek. And since you worship him and serve him, you do also.
Fa Chan:

Originally Posted by Fa Chan
Let me ask you: do you work with/for demons? conjure them? ask their help? I don’t believe most of the posters understand that who will read this thread.

Imryl:

Originally Posted by Imryl
We don’t share because it’s none of your business. I can’t think of a good reason to share that type of information. Even if someone were interested in becoming a satanist, it would be more entertaining to watch them learn through trial and error.

Imryl:

Frankely I thought the answer is obvious.

Oh, it is obvious and necessary.

when I encounter demons in people they only want to spew garbage talk. They don’t want to answer questions. They don’t want to reveal their identity because they know I will use it against them. They also won’t reveal their plans for the host, again, because they know I will cancel them and use it against them. It’s warfare, plain and simple.

People can only be delivered permanently if they willingly renounce their relationship with Satan, confess their sins and accept Christ. If not, exorcism is temporary. They have to leave their lifestyle.

I pray that you will renounce the demons and Satan, confess your sins and ask Christ to be your Saviour. Ask the Holy Spirit to fill you. The path you are on will continue to become more crooked and dangerous.

I also pray that when your spirit is removed from your body that you don’t become earthbound, without a body, but locked into a condition where no one can hear you or speak with you (unless you forcefully overtake a host by violating them and can speak to someone who would understand) and you have no way of living a peaceful life with your family who might have crossed over.

I’ve met many of these spirits and they do not enjoy their lives. I help them move along to be with their loved ones where they are happy and peaceful. None I have met are content. They are confused about their condition and lament the fact that they have no real existence outside this dark place.

don’t make their mistake of either not knowing God or rejecting Him. It’s a perilous condition that has no end till you make peace with God.

Fa Chan

 

[Kitty_Chan]

Ahhh… I get it now. Yes, gold star for Kitty.

 

[Imryl]

For satanic cults crimes are ordinary. And sometimes necessary to maintain the secrecy and functions of the group.

Well considering I have no experience with cults I’ll concede.

Let me ask you: do you work with/for demons? conjure them? ask their help? I don’t believe most of the posters understand that who will read this thread.

We don’t share because it’s none of your business. I can’t think of a good reason to share that type of information. Even if someone were interested in becoming a satanist, it would be more entertaining to watch them learn through trial and error.

I meant that I answered your question about if I do the things you asked about.

 

[Imryl]

Erm. I got interrupted in the middle of that post.

Oh, it is obvious and necessary.

I was only answering what your question so I’m not sure what you mean by it being necessary.

 

[Fa_Chan]

Erm. I got interrupted in the middle of that post.

I was only answering what your question so I’m not sure what you mean by it being necessary.

I meant it was necessary for you and others to hide information that could be damaging to you or them. Both to avoid detection and consequences.

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

I meant it was necessary for you and others to hide information that could be damaging to you or them. Both to avoid detection and consequences.

Not in my case. It’s more necessary because it makes it easier if no one knows. That, and well… I’m sure I’d have been stuck in counsiling when I was a kid. lol

 

[Fa_Chan]

Not in my case. It’s more necessary because it makes it easier if no one knows. That, and well… I’m sure I’d have been stuck in counsiling when I was a kid. lol

I’m sure it is much easier for you to be online and discuss things of this nature. I personally don’t share the things I do and know with those around me, only online. And for the same reason. They would think I was looney tunes! Telling your neighbor you speak to demons and dead people doesn’t win you many friends. But I, like you, am not ashamed of who I am. Most people just wouldn’t understand even if you told them, right?

I can imagine having a conversation with my co-workers as to what I do at night when I’m home from work. The only thing they know about exorcism and possession is from the movies. And, speaking to dead people (departed spirits) is not only against most people’s religious beliefs (I’m not a medium by the way), but is strange to say the least.

I don’t plan on going to any psychologist and expressing my experiences to them. And I can see that you don’t for the same reason. So, I suppose we have something in common.

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

I’m sure it is much easier for you to be online and discuss things of this nature.

Yep.

Telling your neighbor you speak to demons and dead people doesn’t win you many friends.

Sorry sir, but I don’t believe that the dead can be contacted.

But I, like you, am not ashamed of who I am. Most people just wouldn’t understand even if you told them, right?

Shame? Hardly. They would understand what I do, but not likely why. Well unless they don’t believe in god.

I don’t plan on going to any psychologist and expressing my experiences to them. And I can see that you don’t for the same reason. So, I suppose we have something in common.

I suppose we do.