Schwarzenegger: ‘Extreme Right Wing’ Of Republican Party Has Litmus Test That ‘Doesn’t Allow Compromise’

[sedonaman]

What is Leftist; what is Rightist?

The central proposal here may seem at first paradoxical but it is that attitude to the status quo defines Leftists rather than Rightists. It is proposed that it is not Rightists who are in favor of the status quo. They are in fact indifferent to it and may equally favor it or oppose it according to circumstances. Leftists, on the other hand, always RESENT the status quo, no matter what. Whatever else the Leftist may be, the bedrock of Leftism is a strong dislike or even a hatred of the way the world is. They have a strong desire or even a need for political change, often extreme change. This does not, of course, mean that Leftists will favor all sorts of change equally. What sort of change the Leftist favors will depend on what it is about the world that the Leftist dislikes [and how much]. It will depend on the needs that drive his/her desire for change.

The Rightist, by contrast, generally has no need either for change or its converse. If anything, Rightists favor progress – both material and social. So most Rightists are conservatives (cautious) not because of their attitude to change per se. On some occasions they may even agree with the particular policy outcomes that the Leftist claims to desire. They resist change, then, mainly when it appears incautious – and they are cautious (skeptical of the net benefits of particular policies) generally because of their realism about the limitations (selfishness, folly, shortsightedness, aggressiveness, etc.) of many of their fellow humans …

Whatever Rightists might want, however, wanting to change the existing system is the umbrella under which all Leftists at all times meet. Even at the height of British socialism, for instance, British Leftists still wanted MORE socialism.

Leftists think that utopia can be coerced into existence – so no dishonesty or brutality is beyond them in pursuit of that “noble” goal. [See Death By Government http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

.]

The Left sides invariably with evil over good, wrong over right, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success. [Any observation of a minority sub-culture’s behavior being the cause of its failure is immediately branded as “racist”, and not countered by any coherent argument.]

Death taxes: You would expect a conscientious person, of whatever degree of intelligence, to reflect on the strange contradiction involved in denying people the right to unearned wealth, while supporting programs that give people unearned wealth. lewrockwell.com/orig5/cox-s4.1.1.html

“Politicians never accuse you of ‘greed’ for wanting other people’s money – only for wanting to keep your own money.” – columnist Joe Sobran

– Dr. Jon Jay Ray.

See the rest here: jonjayray1.blogspot.com/

 

[CMatt25]

Politics is the art of compromise.

The Tea Party members of congress, nearly shut down the government, and brought our bond rating to junk bond status.

Whether you like it or not, the government still has to run, and part of that is providing for the safety and welfare of society, not just supporting the military and big corporate business.

Even Boehner was put into a corner after his compromise with the administration was thrown back in his face by the Tea Party members.

Like it or not, Social Security and Medicaid are here to stay.

Like it or not, roads and bridges must be repaired.

Like it or not, if we don’t help our kids get an education, we’ll end up as a 3rd world nation where only the rich will be educated and in control of every part of our lives.

Yes, when Nancy Pelosi was speaker, she and her peers went on a spending spree that even Obama tried to stop, but not having the political clout, failed.

However, he did manage to keep us out of a great depression, that is a unarguable fact.

If Mitt Romney becomes president with the current legislature, he’ll be hamstrung and will fail just as bad if not worse than Obama. Romney is an expert in working with the opposition party, but the Tea Party members are an opposition that even he won’t be successful with, because of their narrow minded ideological beliefs.

OH, and Romney would won the GOP nomination back in 2007, if not for the Religious right which controlled the GOP, and rejected him because he’s a Mormon.

Yes, the GOP has been ruined by the extreme right wing Tea Party members, who haven’t a clue on how to run government.

Jim

Yep and all of those things you mentioned, the safety and welfare of society, SS and Medicaid, roads, bridges, educating our youth so we don’t fall even further behind, all require taxes. We spent such tremendous resources during the last Republican Administration on wars that now we have a hole to dig ourselves out of on these other matters And yet this current group of Republicans won’t even consider allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on the wealthiest who can most afford to pay more and go back to the tax rates of the Clinton yrs.

 

[NickVA]

can we please refrain from outright partisan debate on CAF. Only if it the debate explicitly pertains to the doctrines of the Holy Roman Church should political arguments be held. lets not get into politics

 

[SamH]

Yep…though I’m sure Lugar’s age may have also been a factor, the Tea Party was definitely a major factor.

The NRA decided they had enough of him too.

Lugar forgot who he served and why he served.

 

[SamH]

Yep and all of those things you mentioned, the safety and welfare of society, SS and Medicaid, roads, bridges, educating our youth so we don’t fall even further behind, all require taxes. We spent such tremendous resources during the last Republican Administration on wars that now we have a hole to dig ourselves out of on these other matters And yet this current group of Republicans won’t even consider allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on the wealthiest who can most afford to pay more and go back to the tax rates of the Clinton yrs.

Well its a good thing the current administration isn’t wasting money of stuff like that… Oh yeah…

 

[salusanimarum17]

Everybody has things they do not compromise on. Everybody is an “extremist” on certain issues.

 

[rlg94086]

Everybody has things they do not compromise on. Everybody is an “extremist” on certain issues.

Oh no. It’s not that simple. There’s an objective authoritative list that will tell you whether you are extremist or not.

 

[CMatt25]

Yep…though I’m sure Lugar’s age may have also been a factor, the Tea Party was definitely a major factor.

They didn’t seem to have the same success on nominating a candidate for POTUS though on the federal level. Seems for the most part Bachmann in the IA straw poll, then Perry, Cain, Newt, Santorum were all preferences to Romney. Am I forgetting anyone besides Donald Trump?

 

[rlg94086]

They didn’t seem to have the same success on nominating a candidate for POTUS though on the federal level. Seems for the most part Bachmann in the IA straw poll, then Perry, Cain, Newt, Santorum were all preferences to Romney. Am I forgetting anyone besides Donald Trump?

They will still be voting this November. Most Tea Partiers are part of the Republican Party and are much more likely to vote for Romney than Obama.

Who did the Occupy movement get nominated and where?

 

[CMatt25]

Well its a good thing the current administration isn’t wasting money of stuff like that… Oh yeah…

No it’s not. I’d accelerate getting out of Afghanistan earlier than is planned and spending less on stuff like war. But at least combat is over in Iraq. Not to forget under the leadership of the current Commander in Chief, Osama Bin Laden was dealt with. The previous Commander was spending all of that while at one point saying he really didn’t think much about the wherabouts of Bin Laden or about him all that much. Yet he was gung ho on prematurely proclaiming “mission accomplished”. Oh what a complete waste of 8 yrs IMO between 2001-2008. It even boggles my mind why people would want to go back to basically the same economic policies that got us into such a mess too.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

No problem.

Democrats, either directly (by party platform) or indirectly (through the ACLU, et al), have actively supported, and through the courts and the educational system, forced societal acceptance of the following (only a partial list, in alphabetical order): Abortion
Abolition of private property
Abolition of tradition
Adultery
Affirmative Action
“Alternative lifestyles”
Anti-Americanism
Anti-democracy
Anti-conservative speech
Anti-school choice
Anti-subsidiarity
Assisted suicide
Death taxes
Defiance of legitimate authority
Distribution of condoms in K-12
Diversity (except viewpoint)
Euthanasia
Female masturbation workshops in universities
Fornication
Glorification of debauchery
Godless Marxism
“Hate” crimes laws
Hate for the Christian religion
Hate for those of faith (except Islamics and Islamic bombers)
Homosexual special rights
Intolerance of the good
Isolationism
K-12 Indoctrination into Godless Marxism
K-12 Indoctrination into homosexuality
K-12 sex education
Lack of moral clarity
Moral equivalency
Moral Relativism
Nietzscheism
Obliteration of God from the public square
Parole of vicious criminals
Pedophilia (except by Catholic priests and Republicans)
Polylogism
Pro-Europeanism
Racial quotas
Radical egalitarianism
Redistribution of OTHER peoples’ money
Release of known terrorists
Same-sex “marriage”
Sodomy
Speech codes
The individual human will (will to power)
Tolerance of evil
Tolerance Über Alles
UN one-world government
Unlimited government
Unlimited taxation
“Victimless” crimes
Voting rights for aliens (legal or otherwise)
Voting rights for felons

All this from a Party that claims it wants to prevent some from “forcing their beliefs on others.” Of course, the Democrats have innocuous sounding terms for those of the above with which the average voter is familiar, and if one were to be against any, he would immediately (if not sooner) be accused of “denying others their ‘civil rights’.” If one were to doubt Democratic Party support for the above, I challenge that person to imagine who would be the ones to fight a proposed law to make just one of the above illegal.

One writer summed it up as the Democratic Party’s “fascination with death and communism is the prime mover of its dementia.”

I never heard it put any better.

Uhm, you missed the part where I mentioned some of these by the extremist of the left
who have ruined the democratic party.

Your list is a little bit on the extreme side.

What I posted about the extremist of the right who have ruined the GOP, you stated that I was posting misinformation, so I asked for your side, and all you did is bring up the democrats, which I had already posted on.

Just so you’ll be clear about my position, both parties have been taken over by the extremist of left and right

Jim

 

[JimR-OCDS]

That’s quite a feat for only 13% of the members of the House to accomplish.

Weren’t you following the news when it happened?

Jim

 

[ComputerGeek25]

No it’s not. I’d accelerate getting out of Afghanistan earlier than is planned and spending less on stuff like war. But at least combat is over in Iraq. Not to forget under the leadership of the current Commander in Chief, Osama Bin Laden was dealt with. The previous Commander was spending all of that while at one point saying he really didn’t think much about the wherabouts of Bin Laden or about him all that much. Yet he was gung ho on prematurely proclaiming “mission accomplished”. Oh what a complete waste of 8 yrs IMO between 2001-2008. It even boggles my mind why people would want to go back to basically the same economic policies that got us into such a mess too.

And it’s been a complete waste well past 2008. Obama has been as much a failure as Bush has.

 

[SamH]

No it’s not. I’d accelerate getting out of Afghanistan earlier than is planned and spending less on stuff like war. But at least combat is over in Iraq. Not to forget under the leadership of the current Commander in Chief, Osama Bin Laden was dealt with. The previous Commander was spending all of that while at one point saying he really didn’t think much about the wherabouts of Bin Laden or about him all that much.

And since OBL has been killed is the war on terror over? Has anything changed since his death? Has it made the threats to the public’s safety less? The number of soldiers being killed in Afghanistan are on track for an all time annual high.

Iraq was over before Obama became president - he tried to repeat the Bush success with the surge (a tactic Bush pointedly avoided because it wouldn’t work in Afghanistan) by trying the same in Afghanistan then lost his nerve when the army told him what it would take. Instead they got half what they said they needed along with a shortened time frame and now servicemen are dying so they can fulfill Obama’s campaign promise.

 

[CMatt25]

And it’s been a complete waste well past 2008. Obama has been as much a failure as Bush has.

This shouldn’t come as a shock because I’ve said it before. I myself have not been completely satisfied. But I sometimes wonder if we’ll ever get out of the mess he was left with. I’m voting against the Republicans because I think they’d be even worse and being in a swing state, my vote for POTUS is supposedly going to count in the Electoral College and I don’t want to risk being even partly responsible for them having control of all branches of govt were that to occur. But that’s me. Peace.

 

[ComputerGeek25]

This shouldn’t come as a shock because I’ve said it before. I myself have not been completely satisfied. But I sometimes wonder if we’ll ever get out of the mess he was left with. I’m voting against the Republicans because I think they’d be even worse and being in a swing state, my vote for POTUS is supposedly going to count in the Electoral College and I don’t want to risk being even partly responsible for them having control of all branches of govt were that to occur. But that’s me. Peace.

 

[CMatt25]

And since OBL has been killed is the war on terror over? Has anything changed since his death? Has it made the threats to the public’s safety less? The number of soldiers being killed in Afghanistan are on track for an all time annual high.

Iraq was over before Obama became president - he tried to repeat the Bush success with the surge (a tactic Bush pointedly avoided because it wouldn’t work in Afghanistan) by trying the same in Afghanistan then lost his nerve when the army told him what it would take. Instead they got half what they said they needed along with a shortened time frame and now servicemen are dying so they can fulfill Obama’s campaign promise.

I’m certain if Bush or another Republican President had gotten Bin Laden, we would never have heard the end of it. I do not support Obama on some of his foreign policy either. I don’t know why people here think I support him on everything. I didn’t support him on taking single payer off the table either. I didn’t support him on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy at the end of 2010. But on that one I at least could see where he had to compromise at the time in order to get Republicans not to block for instance extending unemployment benefits.

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

I’m certain if Bush or another Republican President had gotten Bin Laden, we would never have heard the end of it. I do not support Obama on some of his foreign policy either. I don’t know why people here think I support him on everything. I didn’t support him on taking single payer off the table either. I didn’t support him on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy at the end of 2010. But on that one I at least could see where he had to compromise at the time in order to get Republicans not to block for instance extending unemployment benefits.

So he’s actual not liberal enough for you? Wow

 

[SamH]

I’m certain if Bush or another Republican President had gotten Bin Laden, we would never have heard the end of it.

Yeah, they might have had an anniversary celebration

 

[iamrefreshed]

Yeah, they might have had an anniversary celebration

Or made a movie.