Schwarzenegger Says His Catholic Faith Doesn’t Affect His Political Decisions

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I guess that goes to show you how many politicians justify their actions by saying that their faith does not play any role in politics.
 
Quote from the articles: “I am a Catholic and a very dedicated Catholic, but that does not interfere with my decision-making…"

Just curious. I hear this type of rhetoric a lot from so-called ‘dedicated Catholics’. Has anyone ever heard this garbage come out of the mouth of a fundamentalist or evangelical Protestant politician? I could be wrong, but I have never heard a strong, ‘bible-based’ Christian politician at the local or national level say their Christian faith does not interfere with their politicial life - they seem to understand their faith should permeate every aspect of their life. Why do so many Catholics appear to not have this “fire in their belly”, so to speak, when it comes to living their life?
 
Elzee said:
Quote from the articles: “I am a Catholic and a very dedicated Catholic, but that does not interfere with my decision-making…"

Just curious. I hear this type of rhetoric a lot from so-called ‘dedicated Catholics’. Has anyone ever heard this garbage come out of the mouth of a fundamentalist or evangelical Protestant politician? I could be wrong, but I have never heard a strong, ‘bible-based’ Christian politician at the local or national level say their Christian faith does not interfere with their politicial life - they seem to understand their faith should permeate every aspect of their life. Why do so many Catholics appear to not have this “fire in their belly”, so to speak, when it comes to living their life?
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You don’t hear such garbage from Protestant politician because they can believe whatever they want. With Catholic, there’s only one teaching. So when they pick and choose, they need to justify it.
 
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You don’t hear such garbage from Protestant politician because they can believe whatever they want. With Catholic, there’s only one teaching. So when they pick and choose, they need to justify it.
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I don’t think that’s always true, and if it were, at least they are not afraid to stand up for what their church/faith is and it is engrained in their soul to live it and tell it - which is my point.

When you get to some basic issues such as abortion or prayer in the school, most fundamentalist/evangelicals/Baptists pretty much believe the same thing - and aren’t afraid to talk about it.

I remember seeing Franklin Graham on a talk show once talking about school prayer - his whole talk was centered on Jesus Christ and how our kids need to be allowed to pray to their Savior. Same thing from Jerry Falwell one other time. Both of these were in stark contrast to a priest I saw talking about the same issue a few weeks later on another news show - his focus was on the logistics of it - if it were allowed when it should be done, how can it be fair, etc. His passion for his faith and Christ never came across, never. If he did not have a collar on you would have, in no way, known he was a Catholic priest - or even a Christian for that matter.
 
I had NO IDEA up until this minute when I read the article that he was even Catholic. So there you go, that’s about how dedicated he must be.
 
Elzee said:
I don’t think that’s always true, and if it were, at least they are not afraid to stand up for what their church/faith is and it is engrained in their soul to live it and tell it - which is my point.

When you get to some basic issues such as abortion or prayer in the school, most fundamentalist/evangelicals/Baptists pretty much believe the same thing - and aren’t afraid to talk about it.
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If they’re Protestant, no one questions their faith if they believe in, like, abortion. The fact is, most of them believe in abortion. So it wouldn’t be surprising if a Protestant politican supports abortion. Why should they be afraid to stand up for what they believe.

With Catholic, everyone knows it goes against the Church’s teaching. It makes too many headline news, especially during the Bush/Kerry presidential election.
 
kellicouch77 said:
I guess that goes to show you how many politicians justify their actions by saying that their faith does not play any role in politics.
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John F. Kennedy paved the way for all Catholics to cop out like this. It is true. As much as we loved having Kennedy elected at the time (I was in elementary school), he did us a disservice with his answer on the campaign trail about religion.
 
Thanks for the article pointing out that Dalton McGuinty is Catholic and agrees with the California terminator. One more reason not to vote Liberal in the coming October Provincial election. I can’t think of a Provincial Liberal who is pro-life, and as for the tories well, John Tory their leader praised the parade of gay, transgendered youth the other day, so it appears it will be difficult to find a member of either main party whom I can vote for. The Family Coalition Party which is officially Pro-Life does not run candidates in all ridings.

I suppose as in the past, I am simply going to write over my ballot in block letters, “NO PRO LIFE CANDIDATE.” as I have done in the past. I will still go out and vote even though my ballot is spoiled. Maybe one day, someone will get the message.

I am glad to be in agreement with Mary Bobo:)
 
Pondero said:
I suppose as in the past, I am simply going to write over my ballot in block letters, “NO PRO LIFE CANDIDATE.” as I have done in the past. I will still go out and vote even though my ballot is spoiled. Maybe one day, someone will get the message.
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It’s your vote. Unless you have a hand recount in an election, technically, you’re the only one who will ever read the message. The computer will just fail to count your ballot. It seems to me like tatooing a message onto the roof of your mouth and expecting someone to notice.

Just sayin’. (edit - Though the symbolism may only be for your own benefit, right? It’s ok then. But if you are expecting other people to notice, spoiling your ballot is no benefit.) 😉
 
hmm, what if arnold was with Jesus during the time of John chapter 6?
i imagine it would go:
“yeah Jesus, that sounds good and all… but uh… i gotta go.”
arnold goes home.
“arnold, you’re here!? i thought you were following Jesus?”
“yeah, i agree with what he says 100% but i don’t have to follow it.”
come on arnold…
 
Stolen_Rutters said:
It’s your vote. Unless you have a hand recount in an election, technically, you’re the only one who will ever read the message. The computer will just fail to count your ballot. It seems to me like tatooing a message onto the roof of your mouth and expecting someone to notice.

Just sayin’. (edit - Though the symbolism may only be for your own benefit, right? It’s ok then. But if you are expecting other people to notice, spoiling your ballot is no benefit.) 😉
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Yes, they will read my vote: not that I care too much. In our system we put hand ballots in a box and they are counted manually.

It may soon change, in which case I won’t be able to write anything on the ballot, as there isn’t going to be room because of all the instructions about filling in circles with pencils alongside the person you want. You then put it in a computer. We did have this system in the last Civic election for mayor of Toronto and the councillors. Who knows if the Province will adopt the same system as the city?
 
Fitz said:
John F. Kennedy paved the way for all Catholics to cop out like this. It is true. As much as we loved having Kennedy elected at the time (I was in elementary school), he did us a disservice with his answer on the campaign trail about religion.
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One thing we must remember John F. Kennedy was educated and he was a Catholic but he was not an EDUCATED CATHOLIC.
 
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