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Was Jesus not taken into custody on Thurs. Held against his will? Thurs. Fri. Sat. He rose on the third day? Was Jonah not thrown out of the fish on the third day?
Does it not say Jesus rose again on the third day? It does not say the FOURTH day, or does it? SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS JESUS ROSE ON THE FOURTH DAY? BECAUSE SUNDAY IS THE FIRST DAY, IS IT NOT? It does not say he rose on the first day of the week?
 
Thanks. Is the title called SDA Bible Commentary? Or, is it an Adventist Bible with footnotes? Is it sold at Amazon.com? If so, could you post the link?

Thanks!

Sincerely,

Maria1212
The disk for this 12 volume set is available at any Adventist Book-Center. I bought one about 6 months ago for around $150.00 US.

The exact title is “Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary Series.” (Standard Version 3.0). It is not available online.
 
Does it not say Jesus rose again on the third day? It does not say the FOURTH day, or does it? SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS JESUS ROSE ON THE FOURTH DAY? BECAUSE SUNDAY IS THE FIRST DAY, IS IT NOT? It does not say he rose on the first day of the week?
Sunday is the first day of the week. It is “the third day” for when Jesus rose from the dead.
 
Does it not say Jesus rose again on the third day? It does not say the FOURTH day, or does it? SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS JESUS ROSE ON THE FOURTH DAY? BECAUSE SUNDAY IS THE FIRST DAY, IS IT NOT? It does not say he rose on the first day of the week?
Why was Jonah in the belly of the fish? Was it not because he was not doing what God “COMMANDED” him to do? Was Jesus not dying on the cross because “we” were not doing what God “commanded” us to do? Did Jesus not die for our sins? What a beauitful day to rise from the dead, but on the “HOLY SABBATH” day of God? Jesus accomplished the will of God. We are no longer in “BONDAGE” of the sins of the flesh. All who believe!

Love you all!! Let us all give praise to the Lord!
 
Why was Jonah in the belly of the fish? Was it not because he was not doing what God “COMMANDED” him to do? Was Jesus not dying on the cross because “we” were not doing what God “commanded” us to do? Did Jesus not die for our sins? What a beauitful day to rise from the dead, but on the “HOLY SABBATH” day of God? Jesus accomplished the will of God. We are no longer in “BONDAGE” of the sins of the flesh. All who believe!

Love you all!! Let us all give praise to the Lord!
I agree with everything you say except Christ did not rise on the Sabbath. He rose on the first day (Sunday).

Luke 23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Luke 24:1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

In Christ Richard
 
Why was Jonah in the belly of the fish? Was it not because he was not doing what God “COMMANDED” him to do? Was Jesus not dying on the cross because “we” were not doing what God “commanded” us to do? Did Jesus not die for our sins? What a beauitful day to rise from the dead, but on the “HOLY SABBATH” day of God? Jesus accomplished the will of God. We are no longer in “BONDAGE” of the sins of the flesh. All who believe!

Love you all!! Let us all give praise to the Lord!
In Jesus time they went by seasons. The full moons, the rising and setting of the Sun. There was no calenders, etc.

The Lord said to Moses, " you must also tell the Israelities: Take care to “KEEP MY SABBATHS”, for that is to be the token between you and me THROUGHOUT THE GENERATIONS" to show that it is “I, THE LORD, WHO MAKE YOU HOLY”!! Thereforth, you “MUST” keep the Sabbath as something “SACRED”. Whoever “DESECRATES” it shall be put to death.—keeping it throughout their generations!!

God is the same today as yesterday. God does not change his words. God is not a foolish God. Jesus said I did not come to change “ONE” tittle of the law. Jesus keep the Sabbath day for he did all that pleased the father, did he not? Jesus never said or changed the sabbath day of God, did he?

Love to all
 
I agree with everything you say except Christ did not rise on the Sabbath. He rose on the first day (Sunday).

Luke 23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Luke 24:1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

In Christ Richard
Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared—but who was there an angel—Jesus was gone already. DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME JESUS LEFT? They came AND IT WAS very early as the dawn was rising ON THE FIRST DAY! It does not say morning but the dawn was rising. They did not go on the sabbath against their laws. But the fact is Jesus was not there at the very early dawn of the first day. Jesus was already gone. So the day was just beginning very early, Jesus was gone! Unless you know the “EXACT TIME” he rose we know the facts that he was not there at early morning or dawn of the first day! NOR THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST DAY!

They laid his body in the sepulchre before the sabbath day did they not?

It was against the law to keep him on the cross of the sabbath day! So we also know what day was the sabbath, don’t you think?

Love you all
 
Jesus is our Sabbath Rest…

Paul says not to let ourselves be led astray by this sort of thing.

Honoring one day over another…

It’s a bad idea and it makes mockery of the freedom for which we are made free.

NO LAWING!
 
Jesus is our Sabbath Rest…

Paul says not to let ourselves be led astray by this sort of thing.

Honoring one day over another…

It’s a bad idea and it makes mockery of the freedom for which we are made free.

NO LAWING!
Thank you! You are right forgive me! I stand corrected. Thank You!!! I just wanted to do and know what pleases our Heavenly Father!

Love and God Bless to all!
 
Jesus is our Sabbath Rest…

Paul says not to let ourselves be led astray by this sort of thing.

Honoring one day over another…

It’s a bad idea and it makes mockery of the freedom for which we are made free.

NO LAWING!
Paul says nothing of the sort. Jesus is the Christian’s rest every day; not just on Sabbath; and this fact does nothing to change the fact of the seventh-day Bible “Sabbath of the Lord thy God.” There is more freedom in obeying God’s law, than in disobeying it.
 
Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared—but who was there an angel—Jesus was gone already. DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME JESUS LEFT? They came AND IT WAS very early as the dawn was rising ON THE FIRST DAY! It does not say morning but the dawn was rising. They did not go on the sabbath against their laws. But the fact is Jesus was not there at the very early dawn of the first day. Jesus was already gone. So the day was just beginning very early, Jesus was gone! Unless you know the “EXACT TIME” he rose we know the facts that he was not there at early morning or dawn of the first day! NOR THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST DAY!

They laid his body in the sepulchre before the sabbath day did they not?

It was against the law to keep him on the cross of the sabbath day! So we also know what day was the sabbath, don’t you think?

Love you all
I know from the bible that Jesus rose from the dead after sundown on the Sabbath. He died on Friday, rested the entire Sabbath in the grave, and rose sometime after sundown on the Sabbath. That would make it parts of three days that Christ was in the tomb and fulfill the Jonah prophecy.

In Christ Richard
 
Seven days from when? We’re not using a Jewish calendar, and the calendar was reset arbitrarily after the return from the Babylonial captivity anyway. So what is the point of the argument in the first place?
The commandment is that we keep separate (holy) every seventh day as a day of rest. There is nothing in the bible which establishes a fixed point from which to count the seven days.

Matthew
 
Seven days from when? We’re not using a Jewish calendar, and the calendar was reset arbitrarily after the return from the Babylonial captivity anyway. So what is the point of the argument in the first place?
The commandment is that we keep separate (holy) every seventh day as a day of rest. There is nothing in the bible which establishes a fixed point from which to count the seven days.

Matthew
What? Do you just make stuff up and throw it on a post . The Lord blesses the seventh day inGen.2:3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He identifies that day as the sabbath in the fourth commandment

Exodus 20:8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

In Luke 23:53-24:1 We find out that day is Saturday.53And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Do you really think that an all powerful God would bless a certain day and then not give us any way to know when that day is. Doesn’t sound logical to me. By the way, the seven day sequence of days has never been compromised.

In Christ Richard
 
The disk for this 12 volume set is available at any Adventist Book-Center. I bought one about 6 months ago for around $150.00 US.

The exact title is “Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary Series.” (Standard Version 3.0). It is not available online.
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to post this!

I am traveling right now so will catch up on everyone`s posts when I get home.

Sincerely,

Maria1212
 
I’m just soo glad that Christ gave us the opportunity to come together on Sunday, which happens to be more of a better reason to come together and celebrate then Saturday Sabbath as christians. Now that Christ has risen and died for the sins of the world, it would be absurd to limit God’s glory to limiting the day of rest and day of worship on just one certain day.
 
Satuday is the sabbath. The sabbath was the seventh day. However under the new covenant the first day of the week is the beginning of God’s new creation…we are new creatures in Christ. Christ himself is our Sabbath Rest now…not some spot on a calendar. First Day of the New Creation is where we Live now in Christ.
 
To Richard

You state that that the moutain of misinformation on my previous posts was overwhelming and you almost did not respond but the Lord told you to give it another go. I don’t think that is how it is Richard. I think that you are indeed overwhelmed. Overwhelmed at seing your postion being easily refuted by scripture. You state that I said that the two law theory is easily refuted by scripture and that I did not cite any scripture. Wrong. Maybe you missed me posting Ezra 7; Neh8; 2Chron31:3; Lk 2 showing that the “law of God” and the “law of Moses” are the same thing, not two different laws. You then say “you go off on some tangent about witness or covenant or something.I’m not sure why.” The reason why I went “off on some tangent” is because in previous posts you and Protestant101 went on about the decalouge as it is more superior to the rest of the law. So I gave three passages (Gen21:27-30; 28:18-20; 31:48) to show that physical objects were used at that time as a contract or covenant between two parties. The decalouge was the same. It is called a “testimony” in Ex34 and other places which means a “witness”. Same as in the above passages I quoted. So the decalogue itself doesn’t point to all sin or is of more importantance than say the commandment “thou shall not lie” found in Lev19 because it is written on stone. All it was meant to be was a witness between God and Isreal of their covenant, as the ten commandments were called the covenant throughout the OT.

You then go on to quote the ten commandments and state I miss understood your statement about curses found in the decalogue. It does seem that I missunderstood what you said. I thought you were implying that there were no curses tied to the decalogue all togother but now see you meant that the curses are not mentioned within the giving of the decalogue.

Your next post you say that Col 2:14 is speaking of the Mosaic law that is prophetic in nature. You make this assertion without any proof Richard. The fact is as I already stated, that when Paul wanted to speak of the the law he used the word law-nomos. The word law is missing from the entire book of Colossians. Also as I already stated the context of v14 is v11-13, mainly 13 shows Paul is saying our sins were nailed to the cross, not the law. The greek phrase for “handwriting of ordiances” is not used anywhere else in scripture. It denoted a record of debt. Nothing in the context of Col 2:14 or in the greek suggest your assertion Richard.

Next you ask if Isaiah was wrong about the sabbaths being kept in the new heaven. All I’m saying is that if they are then the monthly sabbaths will be too cause that’s what Isaiah also says in the same verse. Also Richard it should be noted that we should be careful of OT eschatology. For example, you read in Ezekiel 40-48 it talks about a new priesthood, temple rebuilt etc in the future but I know you deny this. Also Zech 14 talks about the feast of tabernacles being kept after the “day of the Lord” and the Lord’s feet touching the mount of olives v4. Many examples could be giving of things that are yet future stated in the OT which you as an SDA will deny Richard. Alot of these prophecies were contingent I believe on Isreal’s faithfullness to God.

You then make a post from the SDA bible commentary on Heb 4. That must be a newer commentary cause the one I was referring to stated that Heb 4 cannot be used as a proof text for sabbath keeping. Think the commentary was one in the late 50’s or 60’s. Dark green covers and red I think. They were at the SDA church in my town. Don’t have acess to them now obviously as I am no longer a SDA.

Christian regards
Joel Sexton
 
I’d like to post two passages which I believe clearly show that the sabbath does not have to be kept under the new covenant by Gentile christians. Col 2:16; Gal4:10

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Colossians 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

There are some things in this passage that I have not yet worked through fully but I’d like to prove that the “sabbath days” here are clearly the weekly sabbath.

The SDA postion to this passage is that the “sabbath days” are the yearly sabbaths as the sabbaths are in plural “sabbath days.” This might seem foolish to some but it is the SDA postion.

First, the “days” are in italics meaning the word was added by the translators. So the text should read, Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath.

This fact alone destroys the SDA assertion that the sabbaths here in Col 2:16 is the yearly sabbaths.

Second, the order Paul gives is yearly, monthly, weekly and not yearly, monthly, yearly as the SDA’s presume. What utter nonsense to say Paul was repeating himself. Six times in the OT we find the same list but in ascending order as opposed to desending order as given by Paul.

1 Chronicles 23:31 And to offer all burnt sacrifices unto the LORD in the sabbaths, in the new moons, and on the set feasts, by number, according to the order commanded unto them, continually before the LORD:
2 Chronicles 31:3 He appointed also the king’s portion of his substance for the burnt offerings, to wit, for the morning and evening burnt offerings, and the burnt offerings for the sabbaths, and for the new moons, and for the set feasts, as it is written in the law of the LORD.
2 Chronicles 8:13 Even after a certain rate every day, offering according to the commandment of Moses, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts, three times in the year, even in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles.
Nehemiah 10:33 For the shewbread, and for the continual meat offering, and for the continual burnt offering, of the sabbaths, of the new moons, for the set feasts, and for the holy things, and for the sin offerings to make an atonement for Israel, and for all the work of the house of our God.
Ezekiel 45:17 And it shall be the prince’s part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.

It is absurd to say the “sabbaths” in these verses refer to the yearly feasts as the yearly is already mentioned.

Third, other places through out the Bible where we see “sabbath days” or “sabbaths” it means the weekly sabbath, and the SDA’s will use these passages to prove their postion of the sabbath. I’ll list just a few.

Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Ezekiel 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Matthew 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Acts 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

 
Did Paul go into them three on three feast days? No, of course not. Sabbath days here means the weekly sabbath. The above verses are cited all the time by Adventist’s to support their postion which state “sabbath days” or “sabbaths” and they say that they refer to the weekly sabbath. The word “sabbath” is found 60 times in the NT. The last being Col 2:16 and evertime the word appears in the NT it means the weekly sabbath except in Col 2:16 say the Adventist’s! Desperate measures for sure.

Fourth, the greek word for sabbath-sabbaton means the weekly sabbath. All 60 times in the NT this is word for it.

So we see clearly that the weekly sabbath is here in Col 2:16. Paul says we are not to judge each other in such matters and they are but a shadow of things to come. The SDA might respond by saying that sabbath is found in creation and therefore cannot be a shadow of anything. Again, they assume the thing yet to be proven.
 
To Richard

You state that that the moutain of misinformation on my previous posts was overwhelming and you almost did not respond but the Lord told you to give it another go. I don’t think that is how it is Richard. I think that you are indeed overwhelmed. Overwhelmed at seing your postion being easily refuted by scripture. You state that I said that the two law theory is easily refuted by scripture and that I did not cite any scripture. Wrong. Maybe you missed me posting Ezra 7; Neh8; 2Chron31:3; Lk 2 showing that the “law of God” and the “law of Moses” are the same thing, not two different laws. You then say “you go off on some tangent about witness or covenant or something.I’m not sure why.” The reason why I went “off on some tangent” is because in previous posts you and Protestant101 went on about the decalouge as it is more superior to the rest of the law. So I gave three passages (Gen21:27-30; 28:18-20; 31:48) to show that physical objects were used at that time as a contract or covenant between two parties.
You then go on to quote the ten commandments and state I miss understood your statement about curses found in the decalogue. It does seem that I missunderstood what you said. I thought you were implying that there were no curses tied to the decalogue all togother but now see you meant that the curses are not mentioned within the giving of the decalogue.

Richard.

Next you ask if Isaiah was wrong about the sabbaths being kept in the new heaven. All I’m saying is that if they are then the monthly sabbaths will be too cause that’s what Isaiah also says in the same verse. Also Richard it should be noted that we should be careful of OT eschatology. For example, you read in Ezekiel 40-48 it talks about a new priesthood, temple rebuilt etc in the future but I know you deny this. Also Zech 14 talks about the feast of tabernacles being kept after the “day of the Lord” and the Lord’s feet touching the mount of olives v4. Many examples could be giving of things that are yet future stated in the OT which you as an SDA will deny Richard. Alot of these prophecies were contingent I believe on Isreal’s faithfullness to God.

Hello Joel

In regards to the Sabbath day which I believe it is Sat. You will ask me why for this reason. I am Catholic but rather believe I am a child of God.

Sunday is a Catholic institution and its claim for scaredness can be " defended only on Catholic authority" In 'Holy Scripture from " beginning to end you can find " not one single text which justifies the transfer fact" The Church was in existence for serveral centuries before the “Bible” was given to the world.

This was done although God gave Adam this perpetual “command at creation” and has confirmed to us " My COVENANT WILL “I NOT’ BREAK”, NOR ALTER THE THING THAT IS GONE OUT OF MY LIPS" PSALMS 89:34 God is not a “LIAR”.

If any man will do His will he shall know whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself–John 7:17

Ten Commandments-- And hallow my Sabbaths: and they shall be a sign between me and you that ye may know that I am the " LORD YOUR GOD" Is it not God who makes us “HOLY” ?

Jesus would “NEVER” break his Fathers command or his will! Jesus was obedient to his father’s command when he walked the earth did he not? Jesus ask us thou to be baptized!

The Church made the Bible the Bible “DID NOT” make the Church!!!

The Bible actually “condems human conjecture” and " speculations because “NO” prophecy…is of any private interpretation Peter 1:20

God Bless to all a little child of God.
 
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