Sexism Against Men

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Midwest88 said:
As a guy, I’m not too phased, about this type of feminism. The woman sounds like an idiot and I wouldn’t be surprised if she majored in the humanities. Humanities tend to produce people that think alike … it’s like a paper mill … rather useless for the brain.
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There is male sexism, female sexism, and there are those who attempt fairness between the sexes. I don’t think the playing field will ever be completely even; both sexes have certain privileges and liabilities. And both sexes have people who hold grudges against the opposite sex for both trivial and heinous reasons. But we should strive to be fair and humane.

I know both women and men who have been raped and sexually abused. Most of the men could not report their victimization. I know a very tall and strong man who could not fight back when his tiny wife threw a hot iron at him during one of her rages–he did not call the police because he assumed the cops would just laugh at him. I know of a male student who was expelled from school for making one off color comment after he had tolerated weeks of sexually offensive comments made against him by the women students. Why weren’t the women expelled too?

I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander and vice versa. If you have raised children you can see it: The sexes are different but the children beg for fairness. I think relations between men and women would improve if men were allowed to admit their own victimizations, if men were allowed fairness in the struggle between the sexes, if men were allowed occasionally to be free from molestation as well. The phrase “Suck it up” or “Put up” for either sex works in the boxing ring or military but has no place in the home or social arena.
 
Midwest88 said:
As a guy, I’m not too phased, about this type of feminism. The woman sounds like an idiot and I wouldn’t be surprised if she majored in the humanities. Humanities tend to produce people that think alike … it’s like a paper mill … rather useless for the brain.
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Really? Seems rather a generalisation and a clear prejudice. Someone must write poetry to lift us up emotionally as an example.
 
Nimzovik said:
No! That is just my point. The vast bulk of Feminism is anti male and anti church and radical!! . The technical term for what you are doing in your post is referred to as ‘NAFALTing.’(see Urban dictionary.)

There are good Female organizations like ‘Women of Grace’

I have *yet *to find a **Feminist **group that is in compliance with Catholic Teaching.

This all the more distubing when I hear Catholics refer to themselves as Feminist.

The true and whole Catholic church is in almost diametric oppositin to the vast ,majority of Feminists.

See here too. youtube.com/watch?v=D6rIkGjwGRo
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Not all feminists are in organisations.

You must have been very disturbed then, when Blessed JPII called himself a feminist.
 
Nimzovik said:
Seriously? Nothing wrong with Feminists? Have you even been paying attention? :confused:

Go to you tube or Google and look up ‘National Castration Day’ and tell me you still feel the same.

Or look up ‘Testosterone Poisoning.’ Need I go on?
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Your rhetoric is not going to change my mind.
Have you read what some men say about women?
 
severus68 said:
Really? Seems rather a generalisation and a clear prejudice.
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Yea, really, and skip the whole prejudice talk. And the generalization is rather accurate when it comes to humanity majors. I was one and I’m currently employed in an industry with boat loads of such people.
Someone must write poetry to lift us up emotionally as an example.
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Because I specifically called for such poets to be left out of universities :rolleyes: Give me a break.
 
I would like to thank the OP and those who fully agree with him for making my point through their actions. I expect women to cry and complain and especially expect militant feminists to get certain articles of clothing all wadded up. Men, we do not get this luxury! What you OP and company are doing is demanding respect arbitrarily. This is actually quite like your feminist counterparts. If you abhor radical feminism so much, why are you adopting their mottoes, mantras and actions?

I’m not one to fiddle while Rome burns, but I do know the way I can impact society is through action and earning respect from my wife and children by being a good father and husband. Respect for our Heavenly Father has deteriorated sharply; why expect or demand respect for mortal men? Why not earn it instead? Follow the example of Pope Francis who noted that humility and service is authority. Don’t complain when you’re not highly esteeemed by the world. For Christ was so highly esteemed during His ministry that He was put to death. Why should we expect anything else than total sacrifice and that the sacrifice be recognized by few?
 
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Gal 3:28.
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Why is the Body of Christ complaining like a bunch of schoolgirls? (apologies to schoolgirls out there, I’m sure you’re not this bad 😉 )

My guess is that men are treated like buffoons by the media (even my atheist friend noticed it!) because they actually have all the power. No better way to disguise your power than making yourself look foolish.

As Christians, we should be above that.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I’ll get stoned for saying this, but in my experience, women also hate other women more than men hate other men. And then, there’s that female jealousy thing. I was floored one time when one of my adult daughters commented about how a woman, entering a social thing at which other women are present, immediately sizes up every other woman in the room. As best I could figure it out, some women are visually perceived by other women as likely to be friendly, aggressive, seductive, superior in attitude, spoiled, a big spender, on and on.

“Huh”? I said, not being aware until that moment that such a thing existed. Wondering if my daughter was being just a bit paranoid, I asked a significant number of other women about it, both related and unrelated to me, and got the very same result from every one of them. Some felt moved to comment how little I knew about women to even ask about it.

Men just plain don’t do that regarding other men. To a man it’s foreign.

Something I did learn much earlier in life is that women often pick fights with men in order to gain attention. Men don’t pick fights with women for that reason. Maybe some of this feminist talk is not a whole lot more than that, just kind of displaced.

(Now I’ll start ducking the rain of stones that are surely coming my way)
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I won’t throw any stones. Manliness is in short supply as a virtue these days. The media, on the other hand, portrays women as all-knowing and all-powerful.

In both cases, reality has been uprooted.

Wonder why.
 
Society would do much better if they allowed men and women to assume the proper roles as God intended, and realized men and women are equal, but not the same.

Too many women strive for the goal of being the same in an effort for perceived equality, and too many men shirk their necessary differences due to laziness or in an effort to bestow equality.

The quite for sameness is implement of Satan, and not of God. It adds no value to society.

And in these discussions, if you are not going to limit it to the context of a particular region or society, it becomes meaningless. Discussing sexism globally is as meaningless as discussing religious freedom globally. Too many variables from culture to culture. Pointing to Saudi Arabia as a counterpoint to an implied claim about the West renders the point irrelevant.
 
Midwest88 said:
Yea, really, and skip the whole prejudice talk. And the generalization is rather accurate when it comes to humanity majors. I was one and I’m currently employed in an industry with boat loads of such people.

Because I specifically called for such poets to be left out of universities :rolleyes: Give me a break.
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I must have hit a sensitive spot.

A university education has value in itself. Billions can’t even aspire to go to university and some have a choice, make it and then complain.

Rolling your eyes - give ME a break, lol.
 
jonathan_hili said:
My guess is that men are treated like buffoons by the media (even my atheist friend noticed it!) because they actually have all the power. No better way to disguise your power than making yourself look foolish.
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That sounds about right. Recall the result of the sin of Eve. “Your desire shall be for your husband and yet he will rule over you.” Women have been dominated and ruled over in terrible ways for millenia. They continue to be dominated by sinful men in so many cultures.

So we have to deal with men being given a bad rap in the popular media and some feminist clowns ranting and railing about how evil and stupid men are. Boo-freaking-hoo.

Meanwhile women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia and are stoned to death for being the victims of rape in Afghanistan. Honor killings take place in supposedly civilized countries like Canada and the U.K. And folks even here in America… we say things like “isn’t it a terrible waste of a promising sports career” when high school football players gang rape a girl while others video tape it and then try and cover up the whole disgusting affair.

I’m not an apologist for militant feminism. Far from it. I’m all about traditional roles in marriage and in culture. My own wife challenges me every day to be more of an old-school leader in my own family and that is a great blessing. But let’s not lie to ourselves. We men have not always or even frequently respected women as equals over the course of history. We have dominated them through violence and yet their desire remains for us.

Radical feminism is plenty destructive to men, women and children alike. It tears up the family unit and marginalizes men. You know what else is destructive to men, women and children alike? Using physical and cultural power to rule women by fear and treat them like yesterday’s garbage. And that’s what men have done and still continue to do in many parts of the world today.
 
Wow!

I’ve missed some good stuff here…

I’d like to share a bible passage. There seems to be important things in the bible that apply to our daily lives. 🤷

Phil 2:12-18 has meant a lot to me and sums up the ‘suck it up’ ethos.

12 So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.* 13 For God is the one who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work. 14 Do everything without grumbling or questioning, 15 that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine like lights in the world*, 16 as you hold on to the word of life, so that my boast for the day of Christ may be that I did not run in vain or labor in vain. 17 But, even if I am poured out as a libation* upon the sacrificial service of your faith, I rejoice and share my joy with all of you. 18 In the same way you also should rejoice and share your joy with me.
 
The_Bucket said:
I would like to thank the OP and those who fully agree with him for making my point through their actions. I expect women to cry and complain and especially expect militant feminists to get certain articles of clothing all wadded up. Men, we do not get this luxury! What you OP and company are doing is demanding respect arbitrarily. This is actually quite like your feminist counterparts. If you abhor radical feminism so much, why are you adopting their mottoes, mantras and actions?

I’m not one to fiddle while Rome burns, but I do know the way I can impact society is through action and earning respect from my wife and children by being a good father and husband. Respect for our Heavenly Father has deteriorated sharply; why expect or demand respect for mortal men? Why not earn it instead? Follow the example of Pope Francis who noted that humility and service is authority. Don’t complain when you’re not highly esteeemed by the world. For Christ was so highly esteemed during His ministry that He was put to death. Why should we expect anything else than total sacrifice and that the sacrifice be recognized by few?
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I agree with you and with Sailor Kenshin’s response to my post.

A man who knows who he is will not be greatly troubled by the “witchiness” women sometimes exhibit. Nor will they adopt such ways themselves. Perhaps casting myself as a patriarchal dinosaur, I have found in life that while women very much prize their independence of mind and of action, they have a signifcant degree of dependency on men. Who, after all, is more dependent and vulnerable than a morning-sick pregnant woman who left off her career path to raise children? And how much more does she get upset about the threat of seemingly pervasive inconstancy and unreliability of men?

Do we really expect the non-pregnant woman who is immersed in a career to somehow not have the mind-patterns common to essentially all women? And if they do have some of the same concerns, fears, even paranoias, can we really expect them not to exhibit them in some ways that seem misplaced?
 
The_Bucket said:
I would like to thank the OP and those who fully agree with him for making my point through their actions. I expect women to cry and complain and especially expect militant feminists to get certain articles of clothing all wadded up. Men, we do not get this luxury! What you OP and company are doing is demanding respect arbitrarily. This is actually quite like your feminist counterparts. If you abhor radical feminism so much, why are you adopting their mottoes, mantras and actions?

I’m not one to fiddle while Rome burns, but I do know the way I can impact society is through action and earning respect from my wife and children by being a good father and husband. Respect for our Heavenly Father has deteriorated sharply; why expect or demand respect for mortal men? Why not earn it instead? Follow the example of Pope Francis who noted that humility and service is authority. Don’t complain when you’re not highly esteeemed by the world. For Christ was so highly esteemed during His ministry that He was put to death. Why should we expect anything else than total sacrifice and that the sacrifice be recognized by few?
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jonathan_hili said:
Why is the Body of Christ complaining like a bunch of schoolgirls? (apologies to schoolgirls out there, I’m sure you’re not this bad 😉 )

My guess is that men are treated like buffoons by the media (even my atheist friend noticed it!) because they actually have all the power. No better way to disguise your power than making yourself look foolish.

As Christians, we should be above that.
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