Sexism Against Men

[Debora123]

That sounds about right. Recall the result of the sin of Eve. “Your desire shall be for your husband and yet he will rule over you.” Women have been dominated and ruled over in terrible ways for millenia. They continue to be dominated by sinful men in so many cultures.

So we have to deal with men being given a bad rap in the popular media and some feminist clowns ranting and railing about how evil and stupid men are. Boo-freaking-hoo.

Meanwhile women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia and are stoned to death for being the victims of rape in Afghanistan. Honor killings take place in supposedly civilized countries like Canada and the U.K. And folks even here in America… we say things like “isn’t it a terrible waste of a promising sports career” when high school football players gang rape a girl while others video tape it and then try and cover up the whole disgusting affair.

I’m not an apologist for militant feminism. Far from it. I’m all about traditional roles in marriage and in culture. My own wife challenges me every day to be more of an old-school leader in my own family and that is a great blessing. But let’s not lie to ourselves. We men have not always or even frequently respected women as equals over the course of history. We have dominated them through violence and yet their desire remains for us.

Radical feminism is plenty destructive to men, women and children alike. It tears up the family unit and marginalizes men. You know what else is destructive to men, women and children alike? Using physical and cultural power to rule women by fear and treat them like yesterday’s garbage. And that’s what men have done and still continue to do in many parts of the world today.

 

[The_Bucket]

A man who knows who he is will not be greatly troubled by the “witchiness” women sometimes exhibit. Nor will they adopt such ways themselves. Perhaps casting myself as a patriarchal dinosaur, I have found in life that while women very much prize their independence of mind and of action, they have a signifcant degree of dependency on men. Who, after all, is more dependent and vulnerable than a morning-sick pregnant woman who left off her career path to raise children? And how much more does she get upset about the threat of seemingly pervasive inconstancy and unreliability of men?

This is quite right. I see some men (not here on CAF) saying that women “deserve” to be single mothers and abandoned by other men because hey, that’s equality. What a perverse attitude. You don’t want to be ruled? Fine. We’ll just use you and leave you. Or we’ll become little babies and live like adolescents for the rest of our lives, locking ourselves away in video games, pornography and fantasy sports. By the way, I am a fan of video games and fantasy sports. It’s fine in moderation. It’s nice to make a few bucks too! But far too many men make those things integral parts of their lives.

It’s quite the pathetic response if you ask me and pretty much proof positive that we’ve failed to “rule” properly. Pope Francis follows Christ’s example. If you want to be first, put yourself last. If you want to be ruler of all you must be the servant of all. Women are the physically weaker sex and always will be. That gives us men the opportunity to either use our physical power to defend, protect and lift them up or we can dominate them. We’ve chosen for quite some time to dominate them. Our rule when we chose that path was illegitimate.

If a man wants to lead his family he will extol his wife at all times. He will serve her as Christ serves the Church. Not by catering to her every whim and being pathetic, but by dying to himself as Christ died for us.

You want alpha? Christ is alpha. Jesus Christ was the most alpha male of all time. He had all power and He chose to lay down His life for all of us. He handed over His life to be killed as a common criminal and saw nearly all of His friends abandoning Him at the most crucial hour. Yet He did not come down from the cross! He left our free will intact. Had He come down from the cross we would have had no choice but to worship Him. It would have been out of terror though, not out of love.

So must we men soldier on and follow Christ’s example. Truthfully, dealing with a little over-the-top feminist claptrap in the media is nothing compared to the brutality women suffer in other parts of the world and even here in the U.S. where one in six women is the victim of rape.

 

[Frank_Drebin]

That sounds about right. Recall the result of the sin of Eve. “Your desire shall be for your husband and yet he will rule over you.” Women have been dominated and ruled over in terrible ways for millenia. They continue to be dominated by sinful men in so many cultures.

So we have to deal with men being given a bad rap in the popular media and some feminist clowns ranting and railing about how evil and stupid men are. Boo-freaking-hoo.

Meanwhile women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia and are stoned to death for being the victims of rape in Afghanistan. Honor killings take place in supposedly civilized countries like Canada and the U.K. And folks even here in America… we say things like “isn’t it a terrible waste of a promising sports career” when high school football players gang rape a girl while others video tape it and then try and cover up the whole disgusting affair.

I’m not an apologist for militant feminism. Far from it. I’m all about traditional roles in marriage and in culture. My own wife challenges me every day to be more of an old-school leader in my own family and that is a great blessing. But let’s not lie to ourselves. We men have not always or even frequently respected women as equals over the course of history. We have dominated them through violence and yet their desire remains for us.

Radical feminism is plenty destructive to men, women and children alike. It tears up the family unit and marginalizes men. You know what else is destructive to men, women and children alike? Using physical and cultural power to rule women by fear and treat them like yesterday’s garbage. And that’s what men have done and still continue to do in many parts of the world today.

Again, unless you segment the discussion for various societies, it becomes meaningless.

Amazonian women have it pretty good. Women in Beirut, not as much.

It is a pointless discussion to have in such broad terms. If we are going to talk about sexism worldwide, why not throughout the course of history too, since that is equally pointless?

 

[Frank_Drebin]

I would like to thank the OP and those who fully agree with him for making my point through their actions. I expect women to cry and complain and especially expect militant feminists to get certain articles of clothing all wadded up. Men, we do not get this luxury! What you OP and company are doing is demanding respect arbitrarily. This is actually quite like your feminist counterparts. If you abhor radical feminism so much, why are you adopting their mottoes, mantras and actions?

I’m not one to fiddle while Rome burns, but I do know the way I can impact society is through action and earning respect from my wife and children by being a good father and husband. Respect for our Heavenly Father has deteriorated sharply; why expect or demand respect for mortal men? Why not earn it instead? Follow the example of Pope Francis who noted that humility and service is authority. Don’t complain when you’re not highly esteeemed by the world. For Christ was so highly esteemed during His ministry that He was put to death. Why should we expect anything else than total sacrifice and that the sacrifice be recognized by few?

I agree. ** All men and women, and races and ethnicities** should have that attitude, stop whining, and make that same sacrifice. Every human has that obligation to God. If every human cared only about the well being of every other human BUT themselves, the world would be fine.

In the end, we can only account for ourselves. We speak as men. Others have to speak as women.

The world would be better if no one ever whined about anything, frankly.

 

[silentfactor80]

Wow wish I had time to reply to everyone but here the ones that I think standout:

I advocate the same type of feminism as JPII did. I think women should be allowed to vote, and get equal pay, and have all the same opportunities in life. I think they should be seen as people, not as property or as objects.

I imagine you must feel the exact same way.

I presume you think women should have the same opportunity to be required to register for the Selective Service and suffer the consequences if they don’t? It seems like men are treated as cannon fodder for war but women get to sit cozy in the hill. Who is the real object there? Why can the government imprison me for not risking my life in some stupid war but the thought of detaining a woman (or doctor) for having an abortion is sacrilege? Sorry but if women want to shirk their God-given responsibility to lovingly bring children into the world by actions they freely choose then there is nothing worth protecting or serving anymore.

There is male sexism, female sexism, and there are those who attempt fairness between the sexes. I don’t think the playing field will ever be completely even; both sexes have certain privileges and liabilities. And both sexes have people who hold grudges against the opposite sex for both trivial and heinous reasons. But we should strive to be fair and humane.

I know both women and men who have been raped and sexually abused. Most of the men could not report their victimization. I know a very tall and strong man who could not fight back when his tiny wife threw a hot iron at him during one of her rages–he did not call the police because he assumed the cops would just laugh at him. I know of a male student who was expelled from school for making one off color comment after he had tolerated weeks of sexually offensive comments made against him by the women students. Why weren’t the women expelled too?

I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander and vice versa. If you have raised children you can see it: The sexes are different but the children beg for fairness. I think relations between men and women would improve if men were allowed to admit their own victimizations, if men were allowed fairness in the struggle between the sexes, if men were allowed occasionally to be free from molestation as well. The phrase “Suck it up” or “Put up” for either sex works in the boxing ring or military but has no place in the home or social arena.

This woman gets exactly what we want here! God Bless her for having vision!

Society would do much better if they allowed men and women to assume the proper roles as God intended, and realized men and women are equal, but not the same.

Too many women strive for the goal of being the same in an effort for perceived equality, and too many men shirk their necessary differences due to laziness or in an effort to bestow equality.

The quite for sameness is implement of Satan, and not of God. It adds no value to society.

And in these discussions, if you are not going to limit it to the context of a particular region or society, it becomes meaningless. Discussing sexism globally is as meaningless as discussing religious freedom globally. Too many variables from culture to culture. Pointing to Saudi Arabia as a counterpoint to an implied claim about the West renders the point irrelevant.

Frank makes and EXCELLENT point! No one here is advocating for the western world to turn into the Middle East!!! Certainly not a Catholic male! Many men with collective guilt complexes and many women resort to extreme examples when they realize things in their own backyard got hosed. Most of our points here do not apply to the Middle East but hey if you want to highlight sexism against women that is where you have to go to make a case these days. What does that tell you when you have to go as extreme as the Middle East to find sexism against women?

What the guys here are trying to PREVENT is the western world turning into the Middle East with men being the primary victims of mistreatment. We want to maintain the progress, not go in the other direction!!! Sure, SOME men in the past have abused their abilities but not all. Also, I am not responsible for what some jerk did to some woman ages ago. I am only responsible for what I did. When I turn on the media and find male-bashing to be celebrated by women THAT bothers me. That is just as bad the rotten stuff men say about women and get heat for. Why is it OK for women to do it though? Double standards exist in both courts but women seem to only want guys to work ours. You have to work on yours too!

 

[Debora123]

This is quite right. I see some men (not here on CAF) saying that women “deserve” to be single mothers and abandoned by other men because hey, that’s equality. What a perverse attitude. You don’t want to be ruled? Fine. We’ll just use you and leave you. Or we’ll become little babies and live like adolescents for the rest of our lives, locking ourselves away in video games, pornography and fantasy sports. By the way, I am a fan of video games and fantasy sports. It’s fine in moderation. It’s nice to make a few bucks too! But far too many men make those things integral parts of their lives.

It’s quite the pathetic response if you ask me and pretty much proof positive that we’ve failed to “rule” properly. Pope Francis follows Christ’s example. If you want to be first, put yourself last. If you want to be ruler of all you must be the servant of all. Women are the physically weaker sex and always will be. That gives us men the opportunity to either use our physical power to defend, protect and lift them up or we can dominate them. We’ve chosen for quite some time to dominate them. Our rule when we chose that path was illegitimate.

If a man wants to lead his family he will extol his wife at all times. He will serve her as Christ serves the Church. Not by catering to her every whim and being pathetic, but by dying to himself as Christ died for us.

You want alpha? Christ is alpha. Jesus Christ was the most alpha male of all time. He had all power and He chose to lay down His life for all of us. He handed over His life to be killed as a common criminal and saw nearly all of His friends abandoning Him at the most crucial hour. Yet He did not come down from the cross! He left our free will intact. Had He come down from the cross we would have had no choice but to worship Him. It would have been out of terror though, not out of love.

So must we men soldier on and follow Christ’s example. Truthfully, dealing with a little over-the-top feminist claptrap in the media is nothing compared to the brutality women suffer in other parts of the world and even here in the U.S. where one in six women is the victim of rape.

Wow, what an amazing beautiful post!

I’ve always had respect for you around here Bucket, but this post just made me like you even more!

 

[silentfactor80]

I would like to thank the OP and those who fully agree with him for making my point through their actions. I expect women to cry and complain and especially expect militant feminists to get certain articles of clothing all wadded up. Men, we do not get this luxury! What you OP and company are doing is demanding respect arbitrarily. This is actually quite like your feminist counterparts. If you abhor radical feminism so much, why are you adopting their mottoes, mantras and actions?

I’m not one to fiddle while Rome burns, but I do know the way I can impact society is through action and earning respect from my wife and children by being a good father and husband. Respect for our Heavenly Father has deteriorated sharply; why expect or demand respect for mortal men? Why not earn it instead? Follow the example of Pope Francis who noted that humility and service is authority. Don’t complain when you’re not highly esteeemed by the world. For Christ was so highly esteemed during His ministry that He was put to death. Why should we expect anything else than total sacrifice and that the sacrifice be recognized by few?

I will tell you why. When the radical feminists have the keys to legal system that is cause for alarm. Burying your head in the sand and hoping the problem goes away isn’t going to work. Look at Obamacare for instance. It created 7 offices for women’s health and not a single one for men. The bill was a complete payoff to the feminist lobby that will cost our kids for generations to come.

Read and open your eyes:
dailycaller.com/2010/12/10/does-obamacare-discriminate-against-men/

 

[silentfactor80]

This is quite right. I see some men (not here on CAF) saying that women “deserve” to be single mothers and abandoned by other men because hey, that’s equality. What a perverse attitude. You don’t want to be ruled? Fine. We’ll just use you and leave you. Or we’ll become little babies and live like adolescents for the rest of our lives, locking ourselves away in video games, pornography and fantasy sports. By the way, I am a fan of video games and fantasy sports. It’s fine in moderation. It’s nice to make a few bucks too! But far too many men make those things integral parts of their lives.

It’s quite the pathetic response if you ask me and pretty much proof positive that we’ve failed to “rule” properly. Pope Francis follows Christ’s example. If you want to be first, put yourself last. If you want to be ruler of all you must be the servant of all. Women are the physically weaker sex and always will be. That gives us men the opportunity to either use our physical power to defend, protect and lift them up or we can dominate them. We’ve chosen for quite some time to dominate them. Our rule when we chose that path was illegitimate.

If a man wants to lead his family he will extol his wife at all times. He will serve her as Christ serves the Church. Not by catering to her every whim and being pathetic, but by dying to himself as Christ died for us.

You want alpha? Christ is alpha. Jesus Christ was the most alpha male of all time. He had all power and He chose to lay down His life for all of us. He handed over His life to be killed as a common criminal and saw nearly all of His friends abandoning Him at the most crucial hour. Yet He did not come down from the cross! He left our free will intact. Had He come down from the cross we would have had no choice but to worship Him. It would have been out of terror though, not out of love.

So must we men soldier on and follow Christ’s example. Truthfully, dealing with a little over-the-top feminist claptrap in the media is nothing compared to the brutality women suffer in other parts of the world and even here in the U.S. where one in six women is the victim of rape.

“Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.” Ephesians 5:22

Men have a spiritual responsibility but so do women. Why do women get to grumble about theirs and reject it all together while men are still expect to adhere? Double standard again! So much for “Catholic feminism.”

Some women get it though!

 

[The_Bucket]

Why do men get to be the physically stronger sex and don’t have to worry about getting brutally raped when they have a few too many drinks? Worst thing I ever saw happen to a guy when he had too much to drink was that he woke up with a face full of sharpie. Women are frequently preyed upon in those situations. And “white-knighting” by helping those women back to their homes or dorm rooms doesn’t win you any favors either. Guess what? I don’t care.

Feminism running rampant has little impact on my life. I don’t bury my head in the sand about it, but I also realize that it’s a much lesser injustice than what women endure in many parts of the world today and what they endured in years past even in our “enlightened” Western societies. Is radical feminism an injustice to men? Sure. Should we always be portrayed as bumbling clowns on television? No.

Is this a big deal if you just go about your life the way that God wants you to? No way. I don’t have to worry about the civil courts favoring women because I married a good woman and do my best to be a good husband and father to her and our kids. I have sympathy for men who make bad picks, marry a terrible woman and then get taken to the cleaners. But I also have sympathy for women who make bad picks and then the hell beaten out of them on a regular basis by abusive men.

The Peaceful Wife blog is nice. It’s affirming. It’s definitely what wives should do for husbands. But husbands should do the same for their wives. Know what else they should do? Not complain. Nothing turns my wife off more than complaining. Having a reasoned debate or conversation? Sure. Whining? BZZZZT. Whining is a surefire way to immediately lose credibility. Petulance is for children. Not for men. And not for grown women either.

 

[The_Bucket]

When I turn on the media and find male-bashing to be celebrated by women THAT bothers me. That is just as bad the rotten stuff men say about women and get heat for. Why is it OK for women to do it though? Double standards exist in both courts but women seem to only want guys to work ours. You have to work on yours too!

It’s not OK for women to do it too. Gossip and slander is wrong for everyone. Why do women get more of a pass for it? Probably because they do it more often. Women get less of a pass to go out and drink heavily and act like idiots. It’s unbecoming of a woman to go out, get blasted and hook-up with random dudes. For guys? I mean, yeah it’s wrong but I mean… come on. Every dude has to let off some steam, right?

That’s the attitude popular culture has. Women get to be catty and complain about their husbands/boyfriends, men get to be more crude and maybe relieve some stress with a random chick.

All of these actions are morally wrong for everyone. Stop taking your cues from popular culture or even caring about what popular culture says. Popular culture is also A-OK with contraception, same-sex marriage, promiscuity, ultraviolence and all other forms of immorality. You focus on whether you’re being like Christ.

 

[silentfactor80]

Why do men get to be the physically stronger sex and don’t have to worry about getting brutally raped when they have a few too many drinks? Worst thing I ever saw happen to a guy when he had too much to drink was that he woke up with a face full of sharpie. Women are frequently preyed upon in those situations. And “white-knighting” by helping those women back to their homes or dorm rooms doesn’t win you any favors either. Guess what? I don’t care.

Feminism running rampant has little impact on my life. I don’t bury my head in the sand about it, but I also realize that it’s a much lesser injustice than what women endure in many parts of the world today and what they endured in years past even in our “enlightened” Western societies. Is radical feminism an injustice to men? Sure. Should we always be portrayed as bumbling clowns on television? No.

Is this a big deal if you just go about your life the way that God wants you to? No way. I don’t have to worry about the civil courts favoring women because I married a good woman and do my best to be a good husband and father to her and our kids. I have sympathy for men who make bad picks, marry a terrible woman and then get taken to the cleaners. But I also have sympathy for women who make bad picks and then the hell beaten out of them on a regular basis by abusive men.

The Peaceful Wife blog is nice. It’s affirming. It’s definitely what wives should do for husbands. But husbands should do the same for their wives. Know what else they should do? Not complain. Nothing turns my wife off more than complaining. Having a reasoned debate or conversation? Sure. Whining? BZZZZT. Whining is a surefire way to immediately lose credibility. Petulance is for children. Not for men. And not for grown women either.

My guess is you have daughters and are scared to death to let them out and projecting that fear on the rest of us. If women are so worried about getting raped at after a few drinks then maybe should start some all-women bars / parties and keep the guys out. No one should be getting so wasted that they don’t know what is going on! Man or woman! Secondly, most rape occurs by someone a woman knows and not some random jerk. Most rape is also not the result of drunken stoopers.

There you go again complaining and whining about what goes on in other countries. Guess what pal, Obamacare doesn’t affect those women or men. Laws passed for Americans on American soil does not affect those women or men. What I am talking about is laws passed in America and the western world where feminism IS AN ISSUE!!! Your kids are going to pay for generations to come for Obamacare and the feminists that got paid off by it. Tell your kids thanks to dear old dads “head in the sand white-knight guilt” they will have to work harder and pay more taxes for a political payoff.

I don’t have a problem going about my life as God asks. What I do have a problem with though is other people telling me I should when they clearly don’t themselves. Jesus called them people hypocrites. If a woman is going to bad mouth a man for not doing his spiritual duty she had best be doing and reminded of hers!

 

[Walking_Home]

The Bucket – your posts----

 

[silentfactor80]

I think we really need to get back on topic here which was the following:

How are men victims of sexism?
What is good about men?

Now we have heard plenty from the white-knights why we should “suck it up” and from the kind ladies that reminded us of their wants and desires. To those guys please return to “sucking it up” and leave the rest of us here to discuss the actual topic of the thread. To the ladies, you sound like you have some great guys fulfilling your needs so the rest of us really don’t need to hear what makes you happy. If you have something positive to say about the topic let it be said otherwise I kindly ask you to find another thread.

 

[The_Bucket]

My guess is you have daughters and are scared to death to let them out and projecting that fear on the rest of us. If women are so worried about getting raped at after a few drinks then maybe should start some all-women bars / parties and keep the guys out. No one should be getting so wasted that they don’t know what is going on! Man or woman! Secondly, most rape occurs by someone a woman knows and not some random jerk. Most rape is also not the result of drunken stoopers.

That’s a blame the victim mentality if I’ve ever seen one. No, people of both sexes should not go out and get so blitzed that they don’t know what’s going on. But that does not mean that they deserve what happens to them. Honestly, that guy who got written on with sharpie didn’t deserve it either. That was years ago but, upon reflection, I feel bad for not intervening. Men can get away with going out and getting hammered because they’re not going to be preyed upon. Women are more vulnerable. So yes, women should not make themselves even more vulnerable. But that does not mean that they are responsible for what happens to them. Men shouldn’t walk alone in dark alleys in bad parts of town. But if they get mugged, who is to blame? The mugger. The guy’s decision to walk alone in a bad area of town was not a smart one, but he’s not to blame.

As for my personal situation, I have one daughter and another on the way. Obviously they’re quite young. I’ve also got a son, who is my eldest. And buddy, my own wife hates radical feminism, so I don’t know where you’re going on this.

There you go again complaining and whining about what goes on in other countries. Guess what pal, Obamacare doesn’t affect those women or men. Laws passed for Americans on American soil does not affect those women or men. What I am talking about is laws passed in America and the western world where feminism IS AN ISSUE!!! Your kids are going to pay for generations to come for Obamacare and the feminists that got paid off by it. Tell your kids thanks to dear old dads “head in the sand white-knight guilt” they will have to work harder and pay more taxes for a political payoff.

I’m not a fan of Obamacare or Obama for that matter. But we should be concerned that Obamacare will bankrupt the country and/or facilitate more abortions. Not that it will somehow give men a raw deal. Affordable medical care for all is a great goal. We all have a responsibility to help our neighbor. I think the ACA is a terrible, terrible way to go about achieving that goal that gives government way too much power. But that’s a very different debate.

My point was simply that women have real problems in other parts of the world. Being portrayed as idiots in the media is small potatoes compared to having civil rights curtailed drastically and getting executed for being the victim of rape. I’m not arguing that it’s fine. I’m saying it’s not a big deal. It’s like freaking out over not being able to buy the latest iPhone when there are people starving to death in Africa.

If a woman is going to bad mouth a man for not doing his spiritual duty she had best be doing and reminded of hers!

That is just ludicrous. Sure, admonishing the sinner and instructing the ignorant are spiritual works of mercy. But they need to come from a place of love! The tone of this thread is not one of love. It’s a tone of petulance. As a man, I’m insulted that you’d be such a whiny little you-know-what about how the world is slanted against men. It’s not.

If you can’t take this stuff in stride then, you know what? You’re not a man.

 

[mommamaree]

I think we really need to get back on topic here which was the following:

How are men victims of sexism?
What is good about men?

Now we have heard plenty from the white-knights why we should “suck it up” and from the kind ladies that reminded us of their wants and desires. To those guys please return to “sucking it up” and leave the rest of us here to discuss the actual topic of the thread. To the ladies, you sound like you have some great guys fulfilling your needs so the rest of us really don’t need to hear what makes you happy. If you have something positive to say about the topic let it be said otherwise I kindly ask you to find another thread.

I for one already commented on how men are victims of sexism but my post was ignored. Why would you ignore a post that actually talks about what you say this thread is about? Perhaps because it is too boring and debate is much more entertaining?
Why should anyone bother to stay on topic if their posts are more likely to be ignored?

 

[The_Bucket]

Why should anyone bother to stay on topic if their posts are more likely to be ignored?

Why indeed. We should talk about this. It’s much more interesting.

 

[The_Bucket]

Now as I go from this thread for awhile and go back to work to feed and clothe my family, I’ll leave you with this sf80. Quotes from my favorite living priest, Fr. Larry Richards.

There is a difference in the way men and women were created. Men are not called to be women and vice versa. We are different – not better, but different – and men are called to be fully men. This needs to be dealt with up front because it’s a problem – in the Catholic Church and in the world itself.

AHA! You might say. AHA! I say. We agree. Except…

Jesus Christ Himself reveals to us what it is to be a man. It is about taking the one life that God has given us and give it away. When men are invited to die for others, they put others’ needs above their own. To be like Christ, and like all great men, will cost men their very lives.

In other words, make no excuses and be a man. It’s tough-love advice from someone (me) who has had to learn the hard way plenty.

 

[Walking_Home]

“Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.” Ephesians 5:22

Men have a spiritual responsibility but so do women. Why do women get to grumble about theirs and reject it all together while men are still expect to adhere? Double standard again! So much for “Catholic feminism.”

Some women get it though!

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Actually no – that is not “getting it” – and many end up accepting abused by husbands who are far from God. This is the kind of “ideology” – your link promotes.

(Even if your husband is far from God – and you are focusing on I Peter 3:1-6 and desire to “win him without a word” – these words are FINE to say! The focus of that passage is to not use words to witness to him about God, spiritual things or the Bible to try to verbally draw him to God. But to witness to him by your respectful behavior instead – that is what he can hear from you about God much more loudly than words.)
Some life-giving words our husbands and children need to hear from us – (they MUST be genuine and sincere from our hearts – do not say these things if you don’t mean them!):

I’m SO proud of you for _________!
I LOVE YOU just the way you are!
I love you because you are you.
I am the luckiest/most blessed wife/mom in the world to get to live here with you!
You are so precious to me!
I love being your wife/mom
Being with you is my favorite part of the day.
You are my HERO!  Thank you SO much for saving the day! (When someone helps you)
I love your sense of humor/wit/intelligence/talents/personality/creativity/musical ability.
You are such a blessing to me.  I’m glad God gave you to me.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

I think we really need to get back on topic here which was the following:

How are men victims of sexism?
What is good about men?

Now we have heard plenty from the white-knights why we should “suck it up” and from the kind ladies that reminded us of their wants and desires. To those guys please return to “sucking it up” and leave the rest of us here to discuss the actual topic of the thread. To the ladies, you sound like you have some great guys fulfilling your needs so the rest of us really don’t need to hear what makes you happy. If you have something positive to say about the topic let it be said otherwise I kindly ask you to find another thread.

Men are the victims of sexism in just about every popular tv show and ad. They are the victims of sexism in laws written by judges and judged by courts that favor women over men.

The virtues of manly honor are trampled in this society, but so are the virtues of womanly honor, for if women are reduced to ugly parodies of men, where is the honor in that?

 

[silentfactor80]

I for one already commented on how men are victims of sexism but my post was ignored. Why would you ignore a post that actually talks about what you say this thread is about? Perhaps because it is too boring and debate is much more entertaining?
Why should anyone bother to stay on topic if their posts are more likely to be ignored?

I apologize mommamaree. It was not right of us to ignore your post. I will find it and comment.