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Midwest88
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No, I am not equating sex (of any sort) with love. As I said above, sex is just sex. Sex can either be meaningful (two lovers regardless of sex) or not (see: prostitutes, pornstars). Plus, there are simulated sex scenes in movies were actors get butt naked and grind on each other - anyone who knows about these scenes know that sex scenes are more uncomfortable than an actual turn-on for the actors. Many actors do sex scenes and they’re fine; it’s no big deal. If they have a significant other who experiences difficulties with them doing such things then the significant other is the insecure one. Actors are professionals who know how to properly control their feelings - we can learn a lot from actors. In these situations kissing and whatnot is really is no problem to actors; they’re professionals and know how to handle these situations. As one actress said, “I see no big deal with nudity. It’s scary at first, but once you’ve done your first scene you think ‘Well that wasn’t bad.’ Nudity becomes no big deal if the script calls for it.” I wish more people would be less prude when it comes to nudity and sex.So you are equating sex (of any sort) with love. This is not surprising since you peviously argued to remove the intrinsic link between sex and procreation. You also seem that to hold that homosexual acts as sinful is to hate homosexuals. You are very wrong on that. Firstly a person is not defined by his ‘sexuality’, a person’s sexuality is not the sum total of that person. We are called to love all people, but we are not called to accept whatever that person wishes to do as being OK. The Church’s teaching on homosexuality is very clear, we ARE called to love persons with homosexual inclinations. But that does not mean accepting that homosexual acts are OK., they are not. You seem to define a person by what he does with his genitals and that whatever a person decides to do with his (or her) genitals should be accepted as good.
Homosexuality doesn’t hurt anyone. There are countless studies showing same-sex relationships can raise kids to stable, happy humans just like opposite-sex couples. There’s also a study saying because there is an absence of sex differences in same-sex relationships, say, as opposed when a husband works and the wife becomes a housewife, there’s more stability and equality. The reason being is that a same-sex couple can focus on love and respect without “one being the man” and the other being submissive. The pressure of gender traditional roles plays no role.
I’ll appeal to the nonsense that homosexuality (and bisexuality) is “harmful”: Two people experience same-sex attraction are lovers, as they walk down the street towards you hand in hand they do not hurt you. It’s just love. They’re just two people living a part of who they are that was once shamed and illegal.
Many gays in America are now married. They are also adopting and raising kids just like opposite-sex couples. They are equal; they are the same. Equally deserving of dignity and rights once held from them by conservatives. The sky has not fallen since Obergefull v. Hodges like some bigoted Christians say it would. You guys were wrong. I’d even argue that America can finally be proud of something. (You’ll see many on twitter/instragram with #ProudAmerican when same-sex marriage was past on June 26th.)
But not everyone believes in this “God” and not every Christian agrees with the Catholic Church. Schisms create different denominations like Unitarian Universalists; there’s the Church of England with its female bishop Libby Lane. There are the Reformed Jews who support same-sex marriage. Are you going to tell me that they have it wrong and you have it right? Their faith is no more weaker than yours.Arrogance? The Church was created by God Himself when He was on Earth. He gave the Church the power to bind and loose and set up a hierarchy. If Christ came today and said what he said about marriage in Matthew 19 then He too would probably be called arrogant be society today.
Again, God’s Truths are not dictated by what society thinks they ought to be. And yes the Church is hierarchical, Christ created it it as such. And as for Church teachings changing, they will not, they cannot. What was true yesterday cannot be false today and vice-versa.
Modernism is actually defined as a heresy, and rightly so.
This is meaningless to unbelievers; socially progressive Christians believe otherwise. Truth comes from individual experiences depending where they are in their own life. This truth can be paralleled with “beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” What ones sees as truth, you many not see it as, but that doesn’t mean what I see as truth is false. There are different angles when viewing a picture, or, say, the earth - no one angle is “right.”Like it our not the Church has the authority of God to teach. So where does the authority to teach God’s Truth come from? From the Church or from the society we live in?