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Rich_Olszewski
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What school? Mine was Fordham University in The Bronx, New York City, Class of '63.I am the product of the Jesuit education also-at least in college. That could be why we’re both so contrary!
Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public
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estesbob
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Rockhurst College, Kansas City Missouri. All four my siblings graduated from there also. I still vividly remember my first day in theology class when the Priest asked me who is God and I started to parrot the Baltimore catechism response . He stopped me and says-“I don’t care what the catechism says, I want to know what you think” thus my introduction to the Jesuit philosophy!
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Los_Angeles
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I totally agree with this. In fact I was getting a headache from watching the speech for that very reason and I had to turn off the tv.
If anything I have said is against the Catholic Church, let it be anathema.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Lol! So true! The Jesuits didn’t want you to be a parrot, they wanted you to think!
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estesbob
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My favorite anecdote about the Jesuits is one that colust Georgie Anne Geyer gave at my brothers graduation. She related that Jimmy Carter sent an emissary to Castro and his emissary mentioned to Castro that he too, like Castro, was the product of the Jesuit education. Castro leaned back and replied “but I reamained true to their teachings”Lol! So true! The Jesuits didn’t want you to be a parrot, they wanted you to think!
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Roselle
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Had a chuckle from the article so thought to post, a new word for the urban dictionary ~
dupenik: "a person that takes advantage of a tragedy to further a political agenda. "
michellemalkin.com/2011/01/13/urban-dictionary/
dupenik: "a person that takes advantage of a tragedy to further a political agenda. "
michellemalkin.com/2011/01/13/urban-dictionary/
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Scott_Lafrance
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Maybe Sen. Bernie Sanders (I.-Vt) should talk to the good sharrif about exploiting this tragedy for personal gain.
weeklystandard.com/blogs/sanders-fundraises-arizona-murders_533487.html
weeklystandard.com/blogs/sanders-fundraises-arizona-murders_533487.html
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qui_est_ce
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I went to a Jesuit University (St. Louis University, '78) I didn’t have ONE single Jesuit teach Theology or Philosophy (18 hours undergrad required). They were all taught by lay people.Lol! So true! The Jesuits didn’t want you to be a parrot, they wanted you to think!
From what I see over at the University today, I hope it’s not the Jesuits influence, either that or they need major reforms.
Sorry, I digress, maybe we should start a thread.
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qui_est_ce
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Didn’t realizde Castro had such a wit.
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Rich_Olszewski
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One of my Philosophy professors at Fordham was Fr. Quentin A. Lauer, S.J. perhaps the foremost Hegelian in the country at the time, and internationally known, among whose books was The Triumph of Subjectivity: An Introduction to Transcendental Phenomenology.I went to a Jesuit University (St. Louis University, '78) I didn’t have ONE single Jesuit teach Theology or Philosophy (18 hours undergrad required). They were all taught by lay people.
From what I see over at the University today, I hope it’s not the Jesuits influence, either that or they need major reforms.
Sorry, I digress, maybe we should start a thread.
Talk about heavy reading! The memory of it still makes me break out into a cold sweat.
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ishii
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I attended a Jesuit University as well and was lucky enough to be taught philosphy (ethics) and some other social science courses by the older generation of Jesuits who still believed in truth - as opposed to the relativism which now pervades Jesuit Universities. The Jesuits indeed wanted you to “think” but they were committed to giving you the tools needed to arrive at the truth. Too many Jesuit run universities are all about left wing “liberation” politics today - they have gotten away from the truth of the Catholic faith.I went to a Jesuit University (St. Louis University, '78) I didn’t have ONE single Jesuit teach Theology or Philosophy (18 hours undergrad required). They were all taught by lay people.
From what I see over at the University today, I hope it’s not the Jesuits influence, either that or they need major reforms.
Sorry, I digress, maybe we should start a thread.
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qui_est_ce
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By the time I started college in '73, they were worried about why Johnny couldn’t read. One of the required courses was “The Five Paragraph Theme.”One of my Philosophy professors at Fordham was Fr. Quentin A. Lauer, S.J. perhaps the foremost Hegelian in the country at the time, and internationally known, among whose books was The Triumph of Subjectivity: An Introduction to Transcendental Phenomenology.
I had been writing term papers since sophomore year. Another class was “Introductory Algebra.” It was the first time I ever got an A in any math class.
Edit to add: Pottery making gave you 3 hours Fine Arts credit.
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Rich_Olszewski
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I could have used a few such courses to help lift my grades!Edit to add: Pottery making gave you 3 hours Fine Arts credit.
BTW, we had to wear short academic robes to Philosophy classes back then. Shades of being medieval! Classes looked like a convention of judges.
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LCMS_No_More
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Only those who don’t toe the party line 100%.Evidence? As in taking it into a court of law? Should posters on this Forum be sworn in before making any statement?
Frankly, I’m sad that this whole incident is still being talked about in this way, but I’m not surprised.
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LCMS_No_More
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And who do you think would fund the mental hospitals? It certainly won’t be the Republicans (the State shouldn’t care for its citizens as human persons but its corporate persons) who are loathe to fund or support any public service that doesn’t involve killing or incarcertaing human persons. Oh, wait, mental hospitals are all about incarceration and would be a great tool for getting rid of those left-wing “wackos.”
Never mind.
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Hastrman
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Which, you mean the ones who attribute real hostile intent to obvious metaphors—a common symptom of paranoid schizophrenia?And who do you think would fund the mental hospitals? It certainly won’t be the Republicans (the State shouldn’t care for its citizens as human persons but its corporate persons) who are loathe to fund or support any public service that doesn’t involve killing or incarcertaing human persons. Oh, wait, mental hospitals are all about incarceration and would be a great tool for getting rid of those left-wing “wackos.”
Never mind.
Or the ones who keep on trying socialist economics, never mind how often it fails and has been debunked (and results in millions of deaths and thousands of rapes)? I believe it was Einstein who said “to repeat the same action, and expect a variant reaction, is surely a sign of madness.”
Oh, oops, that gets me, too—since I read one of your posts expecting something other than a subliterate unintelligent sneer.
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LCMS_No_More
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That would be the obviously insane who need help.
Hmm…if you’re going to use the word socialist, can you please define exactly what you mean by the word socialist? I think then, I can see your thinking on the issue and respond accordingly.
Nice.
Funny how I rarely post in CAF political fora and yet you claim to know me oh, so well.
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Rich_Olszewski
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Please! CONDUCT RULES:
Messages posted to this board must be polite and free of personal attacks.
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Hastrman
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Socialism. That system of political economy where the means of production are in state hands, and the populace labors for them in precisely the same relationship as obtains under capitalism, while political liberty is retained. So, technically, that reference to all of communism’s deaths was ill-placed (political liberty is not retained in communism—socialism is to communism what capitalism is to slavery). Consider the charge withdrawn.
Oh but then again, that’s not what’s going on here. There’s a more accurate name for the system “liberals” advocate—the means of production in private hands, but the state reserving the right to dissolve valid contracts (purely for regulatory reasons, by fiat), and a politically-recognized, quasi-official status for labor unions. Know what that name is?
Corporativism. AKA Fascism.
No, I actually recognized your screen name right away—and I’d only started posting again after a two year hiatus. That’s how horrible you are: your name has burned itself into my mind.Funny how I rarely post in CAF political fora and yet you claim to know me oh, so well.
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Los_Angeles
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I think it is worth mentioning that only a small minute percentage of people with the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia actually have an intent to harm others. Having a mental illness is not a crime.
If anything I have said is against the Catholic Church, let it be anathema.
If anything I have said is against the Catholic Church, let it be anathema.
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