Shooting, Explosion Reported in Paris

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jimcav said:
It took a lot more people than the 8 actual shooters to pull this off. There was certainly a large network behind this attack.

It also is very hard to find weapons like they used in Europe, so it could well be possible that Syrian “refugees” smuggled them in. And if that is so, I shudder to think that we will see more attacks like this very soon…
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Possibly, but as the ISIL itself is allegedly made up of young people from all over the world, the UK, USA, France, etc, etc as well as from ME countries…how the network is managed would be very interesting indeed.

Also, guns, etc were given to rebel groups, in Syria, by the West, Saudi, etc… so no doubt some of these rebels changed sides to ISIL and/or ISIL took the guns off them, and/or, ISIL looted the weapons along their way.
 
ringil said:
The problem is ISIS, is terrorism, not Islam.

Watch how Francis, Benedict, and JPII have interacted with those of the Islamic faith.

May God receive the dead into your kingdom and may the Blessed Mother shelter their families under your mantle.
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Would you say that to a family who lost a loved one?

This is basically trod-ding out the same line that President Obama uses and I vehemently disagree with this.

Their philosophy is tied into their teaching.

I heard this spoken of yesterday, it seems many of these terrorists and sects have their own “end time” prophecies and they are trying to hasten that prophecy.

I can go along with 1%, 10% of the total population believes in these dangerous ideas but not that the religion has nothing to do with their acts.
 
I believe this is the future of Western Europe. We’re going to see an increasing number of bloody attacks carried out by Islamic extremists from Scandinavia to the Mediterranean and from the British Isles through Germany, and at some point European nationalists will begin retaliating with attacks on mosques, refugee centers, and businesses owned by Muslims. I don’t think anyone want’s to hear that, but I believe after Paris an increasing number of people now see it as inevitable.
 
Following is a translation of the message from ISIS:

Islamic State
France

Urgent: Statement about the Blessed Paris Invasion on the French Crusaders

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

The Almighty said: “And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But Allah’s (Torment) reached them from a place whereof they expected it not, and He cast terror into their hearts so that they destroyed their own dwellings with their own hands and the hands of the believers. Then take admonition, O you with eyes (to see).” [Al-Hashr: 2]

In a blessed attack for which Allah facilitated the causes for success, a faithful group of the soldiers of the Caliphate, may Allah dignify it and make it victorious, launched out, targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity, the carrier of the banner of the Cross in Europe, Paris… Youths who divorced the world and went to their enemy seeking to be killed in the cause of Allah, in support of His religion and His Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and his charges, and to put the nose of His enemies in the ground. So they were honest with Allah, we consider them thusly, and Allah conquered through their hands and cast in the hearts of the Crusaders horror in the middle of their land, where eight brothers wrapped in explosive belts and armed with machine rifles, targeted sites that were accurately chosen in the heart of the capital of France, including the Stade de France during the match between the Crusader German and French teams, where the fool of France, Francois Hollande, was present.

[They also targeted] the Bataclan Conference Center, where hundreds of apostates had gathered in a profligate prostitution party, and other areas in the 10th and 11th and 18th [arrondissements] and in a coordinated fashion. So Paris shook under their feet, and its streets were tight upon them, and the result of the attacks was the death of no less than 100 Crusaders and the wounding of more than those, and unto Allah is all praise and gratitude.

Allah had granted our brothers their wish and gave them what they loved, for they detonated their belts in the gatherings of the disbelievers after running out of ammunition, we ask Allah to accept them among the martyrs and make us follow them.

Let France and those who walk in its path know that they will remain on the top of the list of targets of the Islamic State, and that the smell of death will never leave their noses as long as they lead the convoy of the Crusader campaign, and dare to curse our Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and are proud of fighting Islam in France and striking the Muslims in the land of the Caliphate with their planes, which did not help them at all in the streets of Paris and its rotten alleys. This attack is the first of the storm and a warning to those who wish to learn.

Allah is Great

“But honor, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad), and to the believers, but the hypocrites know not.” [From Al-Munafiqun: 8]

ent.siteintelgroup.com/Statements/is-claims-paris-attacks-warns-operation-is-first-of-the-storm.html
 
Landon_Caeli said:
The Muslims who clan-up into organized terrorist cells. Whatever their name.
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Terrorism is driven by evil. Those seeking to do evil will find a way do it. A small minority of Muslims are warping their faith to justify terrorism.

Hindus have done it. Christians have done it. Jews have down it.

It is a matter of evil- of Satan, not of religion.

Again, look how our Popes interact with those of the Islamic faith.
 
gilliam said:
Following is a translation of the message from ISIS:

Islamic State
France

Urgent: Statement about the Blessed Paris Invasion on the French Crusaders

In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

The Almighty said: “And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But Allah’s (Torment) reached them from a place whereof they expected it not, and He cast terror into their hearts so that they destroyed their own dwellings with their own hands and the hands of the believers. Then take admonition, O you with eyes (to see).” [Al-Hashr: 2]

In a blessed attack for which Allah facilitated the causes for success, a faithful group of the soldiers of the Caliphate, may Allah dignify it and make it victorious, launched out, targeting the capital of prostitution and obscenity, the carrier of the banner of the Cross in Europe, Paris… Youths who divorced the world and went to their enemy seeking to be killed in the cause of Allah, in support of His religion and His Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and his charges, and to put the nose of His enemies in the ground. So they were honest with Allah, we consider them thusly, and Allah conquered through their hands and cast in the hearts of the Crusaders horror in the middle of their land, where eight brothers wrapped in explosive belts and armed with machine rifles, targeted sites that were accurately chosen in the heart of the capital of France, including the Stade de France during the match between the Crusader German and French teams, where the fool of France, Francois Hollande, was present.

[They also targeted] the Bataclan Conference Center, where hundreds of apostates had gathered in a profligate prostitution party, and other areas in the 10th and 11th and 18th [arrondissements] and in a coordinated fashion. So Paris shook under their feet, and its streets were tight upon them, and the result of the attacks was the death of no less than 100 Crusaders and the wounding of more than those, and unto Allah is all praise and gratitude.

Allah had granted our brothers their wish and gave them what they loved, for they detonated their belts in the gatherings of the disbelievers after running out of ammunition, we ask Allah to accept them among the martyrs and make us follow them.

Let France and those who walk in its path know that they will remain on the top of the list of targets of the Islamic State, and that the smell of death will never leave their noses as long as they lead the convoy of the Crusader campaign, and dare to curse our Prophet, Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him, and are proud of fighting Islam in France and striking the Muslims in the land of the Caliphate with their planes, which did not help them at all in the streets of Paris and its rotten alleys. This attack is the first of the storm and a warning to those who wish to learn.

Allah is Great

“But honor, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad), and to the believers, but the hypocrites know not.” [From Al-Munafiqun: 8]

ent.siteintelgroup.com/Statements/is-claims-paris-attacks-warns-operation-is-first-of-the-storm.html
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Unbelievable.

Strong Muslim leaders now need to come forward, and condemn this diabolical insanity.
 
Source tells CNN officials found passports - 1 Syrian, 1 Egyptian - on terrorists, but strong assumption that passports are fake.
 
Seamus_L said:
I believe this is the future of Western Europe. We’re going to see an increasing number of bloody attacks carried out by Islamic extremists from Scandinavia to the Mediterranean and from the British Isles through Germany, and at some point European nationalists will begin retaliating with attacks on mosques, refugee centers, and businesses owned by Muslims. I don’t think anyone want’s to hear that, but I believe after Paris an increasing number of people now see it as inevitable.
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Let’s see how many Western countries and references are listed here:

Western Europe.

Scandinavia

Mediterranean

British Isles

Germany

Let us not forget, none of these places listed has had full-fledged wars with radical areas of its own nation in the past 25 years and some, possibly never.

I thought this thread was about the attacks in Paris.
 
gilliam said:
Source tells CNN officials found passports - 1 Syrian, 1 Egyptian - on terrorists, but strong assumption that passports are fake.
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Unfortunately, they’ll most likely turn out to be French and/or born in other Western countries.
 
ringil said:
Terrorism is driven by evil. Those seeking to do evil will find a way do it. A small minority of Muslims are warping their faith to justify terrorism.

Hindus have done it. Christians have done it. Jews have down it.

It is a matter of evil- of Satan, not of religion.

Again, look how our Popes interact with those of the Islamic faith.
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But I don’t think one can look into the Holy Books of Hindus, Christians and Jews and find direct commands to do commit violence. Yes, the ancient Old Testament has some things happen in it but they are not commands to commit violence.

And moderate voices in Islam do realize this is a problem.
 
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