Shooting, Explosion Reported in Paris

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ringil said:
Terrorism is driven by evil. Those seeking to do evil will find a way do it. A small minority of Muslims are warping their faith to justify terrorism.

Hindus have done it. Christians have done it. Jews have down it.

It is a matter of evil- of Satan, not of religion.
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Other faiths do not come close to the savagery the “religion of peace” has perpetrated on the world and on themselves!:mad:
ringil said:
Again, look how our Popes interact with those of the Islamic faith.
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Yes, I like the way Pope Urban II interacted with the Moslems…
 
jimcav said:
Please read up on the history of this religion. You will find that ISIS very closely represents what this religion truly has been.

Amen
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People act like it is a surprise that a religion whose founder was a caravan raider and military expansionist would have an inordinate amount of violent followers.
 
All refugees aka migrants need to be sent back at once!

You all speak so well of the Muslim migrants but have you ever dealt with them? Mostly savages. Not a religion of peace, a religion of hatred!

I don’t want them in my neighborhoods, cities, or country. You can have them in yours, enjoy your vibrant diversity!
 
I wonder–why do so many people have a need to say: You too! You too!

Take note of your own words: “…as we have had fairly substantial problems with many fanatics in the Christian faith…” (we have had).
 
This topic is not about Germany or Scandinavia or the Mediterranean, I was addressing a post that seemed to tar and feather a very general area of the globe using a great tragedy as a vehicle to such unkind words while totally ignoring other conflicts. It seemed rather opportunistic and was an disgusting posting.
 
Path_Finder said:
I never heard this, apparently ISIS says this:

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ISIS Claims Paris Attacks, Says France at ‘Top’ of List

CAIRO (AP) – The Islamic State group on Saturday claimed responsibility for a wave of attacks in Paris that killed 127 people and said France would remain at the “top of the list” of its targets.

An online statement said eight militants armed with explosive belts and automatic weapons attacked carefully chosen targets in the “capital of adultery and vice,” including a soccer stadium where France was playing Germany, and the Bataclan concert hall, where an American rock band was playing, and “hundreds of apostates were attending an adulterous party.”

The statement said France and its supporters “will remain at the top of the list of targets of the Islamic State.”

“The stench of death will not leave their noses as long as they remain at the forefront of the Crusaders’ campaign, dare to curse our prophet, boast of a war on Islam in France, and strike Muslims in the lands of the caliphate with warplanes that were of no use to them in the streets and rotten alleys of Paris,” it said.

The claim was made in statements in Arabic and French released online and circulated by supporters of the group. Supporters also circulated an audio version read by an unidentified speaker whose voice strongly resembled that of an announcer for the IS radio station Al-Bayan. It was not immediately possible to confirm the authenticity of the statements, but they bore the extremists’ logo and resembled previous IS statements.

Fox News has reported this multiple times as well.
 
But they are not commands and for Jews and Christians we must follow the commandment thou shall not kill.
 
Ya I have unfortunately dealt with them. Not serving me tea or whatever, being in the military I’ve dealt with their nasty side.

And no I don’t live around them, I choose to live around people who look like me and are sane.
 
Landon_Caeli said:
Dead because he was killed by radical Islamic Muslims.

…ISIS takes responsibility.

m.indiatoday.in//video/isis-takes-responsibility-of-parisattacks/1/522934.html
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Yes, I agree. Radical Islamist Muslims, that is, terrorists, are responsible for these murders. But NOT the vast majority of peaceful Muslims nor the Islamic religion, which, despite all the cherry-picking of verses from the Qur’an that point to violence, is a religion of peace just as Christianity and Judaism are.

Further, although ISIS claims responsibility, this does not necessarily mean they are the perpetrators of the crime. I’m sure they take delight in murdering Westerners but it may be that Al Qaeda or another (Islamic) terrorist group is responsible. We can never know for sure since murderers can also be liars.
 
Okay, intentionally kill or murder.

They have developed in this direction because they are commanded to do so.

If various forms of Christianity have engaged in killing one another for religious reasons, it is not justifiable from a religious standpoint.
 
meltzerboy said:
Yes, I agree. Radical Islamist Muslims, that is, terrorists, are responsible for these murders. But NOT the vast majority of peaceful Muslims nor the Islamic religion, which, despite all the cherry-picking of verses from the Qur’an that point to violence, is a religion of peace just as Christianity and Judaism are.

Further, although ISIS claims responsibility, this does not necessarily mean they are the perpetrators of the crime. I’m sure they take delight in murdering Westerners but it may be that Al Qaeda or another (Islamic) terrorist group is responsible. We can never know for sure since murderers can also be liars.
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What makes you say Islam is a religion of peace?
 
I was just pointing out the thread had nothing to do with these other parts of the world and furthermore, it is sad that if a tragic event happens, it seems to happen in a pattern to say “Look at the West, this is going to happen more and more.”
 
meltzerboy said:
Yes, I agree. Radical Islamist Muslims, that is, terrorists, are responsible for these murders. But NOT the vast majority of peaceful Muslims nor the Islamic religion, which, despite all the cherry-picking of verses from the Qur’an that point to violence, is a religion of peace just as Christianity and Judaism are.

Further, although ISIS claims responsibility, this does not necessarily mean they are the perpetrators of the crime. I’m sure they take delight in murdering Westerners but it may be that Al Qaeda or another (Islamic) terrorist group is responsible. We can never know for sure since murderers can also be liars.
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Yet, if one accuses others of cherry picking, it is certainly not cherry picking to say these sorts of attacks and bombings happen with great regularity, in Nigeria, in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, in Syria where a full-fledged religious war exists, in Iraq and now, we are hearing about Indonesia and so on, Saudi Arabia, Yemen. The vast amount of these conflicts certainly points to a widespread radicalism and these attacks have happened as we know, in the USA, France, England and Canada as well.
 
meltzerboy said:
Yes, I agree. Radical Islamist Muslims, that is, terrorists, are responsible for these murders. But NOT the vast majority of peaceful Muslims nor the Islamic religion, which, despite all the cherry-picking of verses from the Qur’an that point to violence, is a religion of peace just as Christianity and Judaism are.

Further, although ISIS claims responsibility, this does not necessarily mean they are the perpetrators of the crime. I’m sure they take delight in murdering Westerners but it may be that Al Qaeda or another (Islamic) terrorist group is responsible. We can never know for sure since murderers can also be liars.
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will the vast majority of peaceful Muslims scream out against these attacks? I hope they won’t be seen celebrating…🤷
 
It a useless diversion. Christianity and Judaism and Buddhism and Taoism and Shintoism pose no threat of violence to the world today.
Militant Islam is at war with the world, and is winning elections and winning territory in its wars and revolutions. It has been the rising star of Islam since 1979.
Moderate Islam is not in charge in Iran. Moderate Islam is not in charge in Saudi Arabia. It takes the power of an army and a police state to keep the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt. Elections will not, nor will elections keep Islamists out of Palestine.
ISIS is surging in Syria and Iraq, and the Islamist government in Turkey equivocates on who the real enemy is.
Islamists continue streaming into Europe in the human wave of misery they leave in their wake, and Westerners continue to worry of how tragic it will be that diversity may be the bigger victim than the dead in the streets of Paris.
 
lax16 said:
What makes you say Islam is a religion of peace?
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The several American Muslim friends and acquaintances I know have taught me this by telling me about their religion and showing me their Holy Books. Besides, your own faith implicitly believes this according to passages in the Catholic Church Catechism, while my faith also regards Islam as a religion of ethical monotheism whose members worship the same G-d as Jews. The latter, according to Jewish law, have always been permitted to enter a mosque and even pray with Muslims.
 
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