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I think it would be easier on you if you did not do an in-house separation. Tell him to get an apartment elsewhere. Your head will be much clearer if you don’t see him everyday.
THIS.I think it would be easier on you if you did not do an in-house separation. Tell him to get an apartment elsewhere. Your head will be much clearer if you don’t see him everyday.
I truly don’t mean this in an offensive way, but I’ve followed your posts regarding your husband’s behavior. I felt compelled to comment. In light of his actions, your husband telling you he loves you and needs you sexually reminds me of something a high school guy would tell a girl he wants to bed. It sounds like he’s buttering you up onlyOK people. it is getting really hard being separated from my h even in-house. I miss him sexually and he misses me. What should I do? I am of course devastated that he has retreated to a strip joint 4 weeks ago, still we are married here. And it is getting really painful being without him, in our marriage bed. We talked today, and yes, I told him what I need from him. No comment. I still cannot allow him back in our bedroom, considering the fact he is making NO effort to get help for his problemo. His sex addiction, that is.
Tell me I am doing the right thing here? I feel I am. I just cannot give my heart soul and body to a man who is cheating on me. However, do all think by my withholding, it might make things worse? What do you men think? I am confused. My h told me last night he loves me and does not want a divorce. As I do not either. BUT, I cannot take his activities any more.
Oh gosh I am confused again…
I fear he is playing me like a card…a fool…wanting his cake and eating it too…
I cannot go down this road any longer.
Thoughts?
Hi! Yes, after him sleeping on the couch now for a month, I have come to the conclusion it IS easier on me and our kids NOT having an “in-house” separation. It just made things worse. I HAD to have it that way a month ago, and you all know why. Just the way I feel emotionally knowing my husband is sleeping on the couch, causes me stress, and also I think our kids knowing their dad is sleeping on the couch, causes them stress, and indicates “mom and dad are having serious issues”. This is horrible. Poor kids…I think it would be easier on you if you did not do an in-house separation. Tell him to get an apartment elsewhere. Your head will be much clearer if you don’t see him everyday.
So good to hear. Best wishes for your future.You are right I will be much happier, once I am out of the house every day and working again, which I will be soon, Lord willing. He sure is putting me through trials here!While I am job hunting vigorously, I make every effort to be out of the house, going to Mass, on interviews, exercising, walking, etc. It really is clearing my head a lot. Exactly as you say e3342. Thanks.
I’ve read this whole thread and I’ve read the link posted on the Exegetical Commentary on Canon 1151-1155. \
Dearest Ellen Catherine:
I say divorce the man, this sick man, asap. GET OUT from under this. And for ME to even utter the D word, knowing all I have endured too, is pretty severe. YOU do not need to subject yourself to this mistreatment, nor do I. Your h is not married to you in his heart, nor is mine. They both long for some other type of life. So let them have it then.
I would say adios to him, God knows your dilemma, as he does mine. Do not feel guilty about it either. My hubby told me just last nite, which broke my heart, “I HATE BEING A PARENT”…
My question is though, and it is probably yours too, should we divorce them? or wait until they divorce us? I think we have every grounds to divorce them, but some pastors say with until they leave. But this brings in how much can we endure? We do not have to, I say, when our husbands are being such unfaithful jerks. Yes, your h is a major jerk as is mine. Let them have their kicks I say.
I am sorry you are going thru this trial. I will pray for u. Please pray for me too. I have had a major trauma just tonight.
God Loves You~
PS: Do you have a job and a means to support yourself?
I think if anybody has just cause for an annulment, it would be you.I’ve read this whole thread and I’ve read the link posted on the Exegetical Commentary on Canon 1151-1155. So where does it leave me in my situation? My husband has not committed adultery according to those definitions. But he certainly has rejected the oneness of marriage and my role as his spouse.
My husband is a life-long gender-confused cross dresser who, when under stress, wears my clothes and masturbates with his female fantasy self when I am at work because he believes that “inside” he is “really a girl.” He is a 50 year old, very tall, big man, who talks, acts, and thinks like a MAN. I have been hiding my lingerie and makeup for years, once it became clear that this was going to be an ongoing issue. He went to counseling for a short time a number of years ago, it did no good. And he told me, because he can no longer find my underwear or makeup, that this last time (May) he went into our daughter’s room while she was at work! Fortunately our other children are boys. And none of our kids knows about any of this.
He doesn’t see any of this as a violation of any kind, or a rejection of me as his wife or my role as spouse. He cares nothing for the feelings of others or the effect of his words/actions on others. It’s all about poor him, his insecurities, the unfairness of ______ (fill in the blank), he can’t help himself, God won’t take the female desires away – therefore he refuses any kind of relationship with God except for the expected attendance at Mass each Sunday. He descends into his addiction for about a week about every 3 months, and it changes his whole personality – he becomes irritable, argumentative, and withdrawn. Our conjugal life grinds to a halt, which then inspires him to tell me what he’s done again, go to Confession and come home expecting sex since God’s forgiven him now I should too. Decades of indulging, going to confession (can we have sex now?), indulging, going to confession (can we have sex now?)… At least WHILE he’s indulging he doesn’t receive our Lord in the Eucharist, but he does so on every other Sunday, and serves as EME now and then, too.
I have forgiven him time after time after time, year after year because I believed that was my obligation under Canon law precisely because it’s not “real adultery.” It’s an addiction, a sickness (which he blames on God). I just need more patience and fortitude, more prayer, kindness, and good example. All my current priest ever says is “You’re doing a good job as a wife and mother. Just keep praying for patience.” My daughter called me a “doormat” the other day.
The feelings of rejection, violation, disrespect, and worthlessness (except for sex of course – he always needs me for sex) are simply overwhelming sometimes. And fear – that the our daughter and the boys will find out, that someone in our community will find out. We live in small town/rural mid-America. There is nowhere else to go, no one to talk to who doesn’t know both of us. I am even half afraid to post here. I gather from Canon law that this is a cross I will simply have to endure. The man who refuses counseling cannot be helped.
Well, it’s all certainly brought me closer to Christ, and that is always a good thing regardless of how it happens.
" My hubby told me just last nite, which broke my heart, “I HATE BEING A PARENT”…"
And there perhaps, is your husband at his most truthful. The other stuff he says to get back and/ or remain with you (considering what he does to wrong both you and your family) is not to be trusted. He has shown that every time he leaves your house and goes out…
It all depends on how much pain you can stand…At some point it is up to you to decide if YOU will change your life for the better for you and your family. Even if that means you being the one to get the divorce. Why wait for it to be on his schedule? It may never be on his list as he can have it both ways if he stays with you.
You sound like someone that has tried everything and waited a very long time for him to change. If change never is going to come, how long will you stay? Long enough for it to affect your family more than it already has?
I do not know Irishmom. I do not know. You are right what you said above. My h essentially hates being married, being responsible for kids, etc. being a responsible parent,(yes, much stress it is in the teen years)-- and hates being tied to one woman, ME. Sad really. Now of course as he says, this is largely due to the fact that he is most unhappy, unemployed for over 2 years, and feels himself to be a failure, that he cannot provide for his family like he should. I do understand this. But only to a point, as I am not a man. I wonder is this reason enough for him to act so cruelly? Go visit strip clubs? speak so terrible at times to me? saying FU and calling ME a B? He completely loses it, like he did last nite, when our son was gone after dark, and we knew not his whereabouts. He just took off on his bike around 8---- It was soooo stressful. I of course criticized my h for not disciplining or setting out boundaries for our son, grounding him when he doesn’t mind, then he takes it as me attacking him, which probably it was, but I couldn’t help it…He has never disciplined…ever. And kids do not mind their mom, when the dad does nothing!
Anyway such is my life right now. Need to go on a nice long walk now and deep breathe.
Thank you friend(s) for your compassion, and concern. Oh the trials of this life are never-ending. Only God is eternal. This fills my heart with such peace. Yes, the peace which surpasses all understanding. Why can’t I always feel it at every moment? It’s so hard. I wish I could always have the Holy Spirit in me every second of every day. Please pray for me, that I will be a good mom.
You all are a blessing to me. Never forget YOU are doing something to help another, even thru this crazy internet world.
We had an annulment. A few years into the marriage we split because of this issue and I got an annulment based on his lack of disclosure before the wedding. Then several years later I was so stupid as to believe him when he claimed it was all gone and behind him – and I think he even believed it, too, at the time – and somehow he even convinced the priest/Church because we were remarried IN THE CHURCH in the same diocese! That was 20 years ago. So I don’t think they’re going to give me another annulment. Because the second time, I knew it was there; I thought it was an addiction/sickness that had been overcome.I think if anybody has just cause for an annulment, it would be you.
I would “out” this turkey with no fear of what the neighbors think (they’ll be on your side, I should think), divorce him, mention to the Tribunal that, after the wedding, he started stealing your underwear, which was when you first realized that he married you so that he could “borrow” your clothes, and not because he intended to be married to you, or even understood what that term means.
After the couple days or so that the Tribunal paperwork would take to complete (seriously - they aren’t going to think even for a second that a Christian marriage was ever possible, here), I’d move on with my life.
Unless you want to put up with this for the rest of your life, of course. It’s always up to you.
You have my prayers for your success! Whatever God guides you to do… may you follow His path and heal the damage in your family!I really want my marriage to work. He’s not like this all the time. I want him to break this addiction and form a relationship with God that meets his needs instead of turning to a fantasy world when he can’t take the stress of _______ (usually work/money issues). But if it’s something that will never change, then how do I get out of it a second time when I knew it going in?
I’m very confused.

You are in my prayers, sweetheart. I don’t know what to say, other than, get the counsel of a good priest, and see what he has to say. There is always at least one priest on the Tribunal - is there any way you can speak with him, privately and off the record? He might know of a way out of your dilemma.We had an annulment. A few years into the marriage we split because of this issue and I got an annulment based on his lack of disclosure before the wedding. Then several years later I was so stupid as to believe him when he claimed it was all gone and behind him – and I think he even believed it, too, at the time – and somehow he even convinced the priest/Church because we were remarried IN THE CHURCH in the same diocese! That was 20 years ago. So I don’t think they’re going to give me another annulment. Because the second time, I knew it was there; I thought it was an addiction/sickness that had been overcome.
Yes, I work (someone asked that), 30 hrs/wk, no benefits. I feel like I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place. It’s like this is his alcohol (he doesn’t drink or smoke, BTW). When he is not stealing my clothes and indulging in his fantasies, he is a wonderful person. When he is being “the other woman,” he is a terrible husband and father (verbally and emotionally abusive). I am afraid to “out” him because of the kids (3 teens), one still in middle school – young enough to fall under visitation laws (and yes, these guys get visitation rights, and he would take them). Right now, the kids know nothing except that dad has attitude problems now and then. And they have no respect for him.
Just writing this down is an amazing relief. Except for talking with the various priest where we’ve lived over the years, it has been a secret for so long. It is just hard trying to not give too much detail because I am so afraid someone will know me.
I really want my marriage to work. He’s not like this all the time. I want him to break this addiction and form a relationship with God that meets his needs instead of turning to a fantasy world when he can’t take the stress of _______ (usually work/money issues). But if it’s something that will never change, then how do I get out of it a second time when I knew it going in?
I’m very confused.
Oh dear Corinne! You have had advice from your Christian counselors and priest regarding this issue. Listen to them.Dear Friends:
You know my story and saga, but I really would like your replies specifically to my particular question. Thank you so much here.
I have 2 threads going, but at this point I really would like your Catholic-Christian thoughts too.
Should a husband that is continuing to choose infidelity and ongoing nude lap dances be banned to sleeping on the couch/or am I the one who is wrong in insisting this? Thank you.
FYI, anyone reading this for the first time: here’s the situation:
Hubby going to nude strip joints endlessly, not thinking there is anything wrong with it, etc., etc…separated 4 times in past 2 years over it. Hubby non-repentant/non-remorseful, still choosing to engage in it, etc.
As a faithful Catholic, is it wrong to shut my husband out sexually, and out of our bedroom because of his behavior? I feel I have my boundaries here, but I’d like to find out the right and Godly thing to do, regardless of what I want. I want to do what God wants.
Thoughts? I simply hate him for his infidelity, FYI.
Thank you all.
PLEASE get yourself tested. So many of us have asked if you have gone to a GYN and there’s been no response…or maybe you have, I can’t remember…but just taking this step will mean that you’re doing something proactive, and you will for sure feel better for it. It will also put your feet on the ground, by doing something that’s simple common sense…although painful to face. If you don’t you could be putting your future life/health at serious risk. Have you asked him about his health in this regard?Oh dear Corinne! You have had advice from your Christian counselors and priest regarding this issue. Listen to them.
Personally, I think you are putting your health at risk if you are having sex with your husband at this point. He has broken your trust already; why would you believe that he hasn’t had sex with the lap dancer? Some STDs cannot be detected in men, such as HPV which can cause cervical cancer.
Listen to your counselors and priest and quit reposting the drama here. Start detaching yourself and getting healthy. I’m starting to get cranky because the same questions keep getting reposted in new threads. This is my last bit of advice.