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michael7777
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Happy Feast of St. Isidore, the Farmer.
I have had a huge amount of bi-sexual friends during my lifetime. I have never had any homosexual relationships nor was I ever even attracted to another man, but for some reason many of my friends have had homosexual sex. This topic of how I end up having so many friends that have same sex attraction has confused 
me for years. It seems that about 90% of my long-term friends have had homosexual relationships. This was true all through high school and even college and after college. These people don’t come up and immediately tell me they are homosexuals, I really don’t have that great of a gay-dar, so to speak.
Anyways, I have wondered for a long time why these people are the way they are. After being friends with them so long I have had a hard time not being their friend after I find out they are bi-sexual men. If they were repentant bi-sexual men, I probably wouldn’t have that big of a problem with it, but these people are not repentant.
Obviously, it is not a sin to have same sex attraction, but it is a sin to lust after another man or to have sex with him. My old-time friends do both lust and sex with men, they all act very masculine and are attracted to women but they are same sex attracted to other men too.
I recently spoke to an Abbot of a monastery and this is what he told me on the subject.
"-Human beings are men or women, period. Some poor folk are born with both male and female organs, but this is what is meant by “the exception proves the rule.” The terrible cross these people have just proves that we are men or women.
–Of course, there are men or women, from the beginning of the world, who had the affliction of same-sex attraction, but there were and are, REALLY, just men and women with confusion about their identity (due to sin…). God is good. He did not create absurd people who seem to be men but are really women. We can trust creation, and we and trust the moral law of the Church.
–So most of these guys you say are “gay” are just men (attracted to women deep down) who are confused, because of sin and because people in our society promote these behaviors. These young people frequent the media, where they are told sexual perversion is OK. And they fall for this lie. Then they wind up committing suicide, because this perversion does not work."
"-Sexuality, but definition, by nature, by God’s plan, by everything really, is about a relationship between a man and a woman, having must to do with (by not exclusively) procreation of children. Between two men, whatever it is (a pathetic substitute, a mental illness, sin) it is not really sexuality and there is no biological basis for it at all.
–The unnatural and weird attraction that occurs between two men or two women is not easy to explain, except that sin has caused damage to the human race and if, for whatever reason, normal sexuality is impossible or seems impossible, because of sin human beings have the capacity to use this other (false) mode to express their sexuality. Deep down men are attracted to women, but in their difficulties and mental confusion they get a “short circuit” you might say and are pulled into this perverse behavior. It is really just a particularly bad type of sin.
May God preserve us from this plague! We must have pity on those infected, however, as sometimes there is almost no fault on the part of the person engaging in this. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us." -Words of the Abbot.
So as this holy Abbot said, sometimes these people have almost no fault on their part engaging in this sin. I agree, sin has three sources: the world, the flesh, and the devil. I honestly think homosexuality is a huge demonic deception and people that fall into this sin are duped by the devil. All sins have a huge demonic component, as does every sin on an examination of conscience, and the sin of homosexuality is no different.
The homosexuals seem to fall into this sin because of the lie from the sexual revolution that sexual promiscuity is a good thing and is the life for a male to have. Also, I feel they fall into this trap, due to the use of artificial contraceptives leading society to think that sex is separate from procreation and is therefore all about pleasure separate from procreation (due to contraceptives) so these people fall into a huge misconception.
Our Holy Church has long taught (from the Old Testament) there are four sins crying to heaven for vengeance.
I have had to give up many friends who partake in this behavior, unrepentant. I feel homosexuality is a hugely evil sin. God punished Sodom in the Old Testament for it, by sending fire and brimstone. God is going to punish people who do this, and I don’t want to be anywhere near these people when He does. I encourage my friends to repent from this behavior then I severe all contact with them. I think it is important to not associate with bad company as the saints encourage us to do. I do try and evangelize my friends, but if they don’t have a conversion after a period of time, then I have to end the friendship, especially over such a severe offense to God. To Christ through Mary, Michael.
I have had a huge amount of bi-sexual friends during my lifetime. I have never had any homosexual relationships nor was I ever even attracted to another man, but for some reason many of my friends have had homosexual sex. This topic of how I end up having so many friends that have same sex attraction has confused me for years. It seems that about 90% of my long-term friends have had homosexual relationships. This was true all through high school and even college and after college. These people don’t come up and immediately tell me they are homosexuals, I really don’t have that great of a gay-dar, so to speak.Anyways, I have wondered
for a long time why these people are the way they are. After being friends with them so long I have had a hard time not being their friend after I find out they are bi-sexual men. If they were repentant bi-sexual men, I probably wouldn’t have that big of a problem with it, but these people are not repentant.Obviously, it is not a sin to have same sex attraction, but it is a sin to lust after another man or to have sex with him. My old-time friends do both lust and sex with men, they all act very masculine and are attracted to women but they are same sex attracted to other men too.
I recently spoke to an Abbot of a monastery and this is what he told me on the subject.
"-Human beings are men or women, period. Some poor folk are born with both male and female organs, but this is what is meant by “the exception proves the rule.” The terrible cross these people have just proves that we are men or women.
–Of course, there are men or women, from the beginning of the world, who had the affliction of same-sex attraction, but there were and are, REALLY, just men and women with confusion about their identity (due to sin…). God is good. He did not create absurd people who seem to be men but are really women. We can trust creation, and we and trust the moral law of the Church.
–So most of these guys you say are “gay” are just men (attracted to women deep down) who are confused, because of sin and because people in our society promote these behaviors. These young people frequent the media, where they are told sexual perversion is OK. And they fall for this lie. Then they wind up committing suicide, because this perversion does not work."
"-Sexuality, but definition, by nature, by God’s plan, by everything really, is about a relationship between a man and a woman, having must to do with (by not exclusively) procreation of children. Between two men, whatever it is (a pathetic substitute, a mental illness, sin) it is not really sexuality and there is no biological basis for it at all.
–The unnatural and weird attraction that occurs between two men or two women is not easy to explain, except that sin has caused damage to the human race and if, for whatever reason, normal sexuality is impossible or seems impossible, because of sin human beings have the capacity to use this other (false) mode to express their sexuality. Deep down men are attracted to women, but in their difficulties and mental confusion they get a “short circuit” you might say and are pulled into this perverse behavior. It is really just a particularly bad type of sin.
May God preserve us from this plague! We must have pity on those infected, however, as sometimes there is almost no fault on the part of the person engaging in this. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us." -Words of the Abbot.
So as this holy Abbot said, sometimes these people have almost no fault on their part engaging in this sin. I agree, sin has three sources: the world, the flesh, and the devil. I honestly think homosexuality is a huge demonic deception and people that fall into this sin are duped by the devil. All sins have a huge demonic component, as does every sin on an examination of conscience, and the sin of homosexuality is no different.
The homosexuals seem to fall into this sin because of the lie from the sexual revolution that sexual promiscuity is a good thing and is the life for a male to have. Also, I feel they fall into this trap, due to the use of artificial contraceptives leading society to think that sex is separate from procreation and is therefore all about pleasure separate from procreation (due to contraceptives) so these people fall into a huge misconception.
Our Holy Church has long taught (from the Old Testament) there are four sins crying to heaven for vengeance.
- Willful murder
- The sin of Sodom (homosexuality)
- Oppression of the poor
- Defrauding laborers of their wages
I have had to give up many friends who partake in this behavior, unrepentant. I feel homosexuality is a hugely evil sin. God punished Sodom in the Old Testament for it, by sending fire and brimstone. God is going to punish people who do this, and I don’t want to be anywhere near these people when He does. I encourage my friends to repent from this behavior then I severe all contact with them. I think it is important to not associate with bad company as the saints encourage us to do. I do try and evangelize my friends, but if they don’t have a conversion after a period of time, then I have to end the friendship, especially over such a severe offense to God. To Christ through Mary, Michael.
They wanted to be His friend, and learn from Him.
