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fin
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Agree. Besides, BXVI said something before about HP being not okay. Of course I can claim to be better than him, but I am not. And yes, I used to read HP, I regret to say that.
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fin
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Thanks for sharing. Fr. Ripperger’s videos are good.
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mVitus
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If you’re not gonna be tempted, I can’t see harm.
For reference, I’m reading a fantasy series right now where some of my favorite things are: their world’s version of the Tarot deck, a race that performed a ritual to make themselves undead in order to continue a special genocide, characters whose bodies have died but they got their soul into another one, the ploys of the world’s gods, and the magic. For some, the series might be tempting towards dark things. For me, I realize it’s fiction and that even if any of those were possible for me that it’d be wrong. Note to self: need to read more of it today.
For reference, I’m reading a fantasy series right now where some of my favorite things are: their world’s version of the Tarot deck, a race that performed a ritual to make themselves undead in order to continue a special genocide, characters whose bodies have died but they got their soul into another one, the ploys of the world’s gods, and the magic. For some, the series might be tempting towards dark things. For me, I realize it’s fiction and that even if any of those were possible for me that it’d be wrong. Note to self: need to read more of it today.
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BartholomewB
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Well, yes. Like you, I also like books that build worlds I can immerse myself in. I like The Count of Monte Cristo, I like the Sherlock Holmes stories, and I’m a fan of John le Carré’s spy thrillers. When I was a kid I immersed myself in the Tarzan books and in C. S. Forester’s Hornblower books. But there were other writers whose books somehow never grabbed me, either then or later, including both Tolkien and C. S. Lewis, who have already been mentioned on this thread.
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1ke
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And this is why under 18 should not post on CAF.
The OP asks about children’s literature and someone brings up an inappropriate adult book.
Really? Why would you bring this up on a TEEN’S thread?? It is highly inappropriate.
Be congnizant of who the poster is and what you are saying on the thread.
The teenager should talk to their parents about what is appropriate to read. And as a parent I would be beyond upset to find out an adult had brought up the book you mentioned with my teen!!
Use some prudence people.
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CoeurRempli
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I am an adult and still a huge fan of Harry Potter. It has never made me want to explore witchcraft or Wicca. The wizarding world in HP is totally unrelated to Wicca or the occult- it is just made up fantasy, just like Narnia as another poster mentioned. They contain many Christian themes and I would say promote much less immorality than many of the teen books out there. If you don’t have problems with confusing other fictional books with reality, then I don’t see how Harry Potter would be any different. 
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SacredHeartBassist
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This. Happy cake day again
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TheAmazingGrace
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Thank you again!
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Wesrock
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Harry Potter has little to nothing to do with actual witchcraft or wiccanism. The only questionable content is his divination class in later years, which is largely played for laughs. It’s a fun childrens/YA story, and if you are sound in yiur faith you’re fine.
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BlueMaxx
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Really? A book about a boy going to a school of witchcraft has nothing to do with witchcraft?
That alone should make people stop and think, hey…maybe this is a tad dangerous.
Also to another above poster…just because you were not personally encouraged to delve further into the occult does not mean another person who is more susceptible to such temptations may not be at a higher risk.
There is just way too much in the Bible and God explicitly telling us NOT to even dabble in this kind of behavior.
We need to separate the “fun” factor out of this and be realistic…why would you put yourself or child at risk when there are soooo many other acceptable fantasy themed fiction books out there to read?
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Francis
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Former Chief Exorcist ,who died now said
‘Harry Potter and yoga are evil’,
For most people it is a way of toning the limbs and soothing the stresses of everyday life, but the Catholic Church’s best-known exorcist says yoga is evil.
“In Harry Potter the Devil acts in a crafty and covert manner, under the guise of extraordinary powers, magic spells and curses,” said the priest, who in 1986 was appointed the chief exorcist for the Diocese of Rome.
Reading JK Rowling’s Harry Potter books is no less dangerous, said the 86-year-old priest, who is the honorary president for life of the International Association of Exorcists, which he founded in 1990, and whose favourite film is the 1973 horror classic, The Exorcist.
The Harry Potter books, which have sold millions of copies worldwide, “seem innocuous” but in fact encourage children to believe in black magic and wizardry, Father Amorth said
Catholic Parents should know and be very cautious of such hp stuff and should be avoided at any cost it’s satanic ,few children where even possessed, after reading HP books, other where getting angry, they misbehave violently ,disobedient, rude ,they can’t pray, nor complete their studies, the list is endless, they are not even aware of what’s wrong with themselves (and parents should take responsibility and interest to teach then the facts of such hp books and instead read about the life of saints) they rather take them to a psychologist instead, what a pity, they should have taken them to an exorcist Catholic Priest who has the gift of deliverance, instead. Or prayed over by a pious priest
‘Harry Potter and yoga are evil’,
For most people it is a way of toning the limbs and soothing the stresses of everyday life, but the Catholic Church’s best-known exorcist says yoga is evil.
“In Harry Potter the Devil acts in a crafty and covert manner, under the guise of extraordinary powers, magic spells and curses,” said the priest, who in 1986 was appointed the chief exorcist for the Diocese of Rome.
Reading JK Rowling’s Harry Potter books is no less dangerous, said the 86-year-old priest, who is the honorary president for life of the International Association of Exorcists, which he founded in 1990, and whose favourite film is the 1973 horror classic, The Exorcist.
The Harry Potter books, which have sold millions of copies worldwide, “seem innocuous” but in fact encourage children to believe in black magic and wizardry, Father Amorth said
Catholic Parents should know and be very cautious of such hp stuff and should be avoided at any cost it’s satanic ,few children where even possessed, after reading HP books, other where getting angry, they misbehave violently ,disobedient, rude ,they can’t pray, nor complete their studies, the list is endless, they are not even aware of what’s wrong with themselves (and parents should take responsibility and interest to teach then the facts of such hp books and instead read about the life of saints) they rather take them to a psychologist instead, what a pity, they should have taken them to an exorcist Catholic Priest who has the gift of deliverance, instead. Or prayed over by a pious priest
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Bruised_Reed
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Nope.
I think it should inspire one to research for oneself instead of relying on scaremongers.
If you did the research yourself you would discover that the books and movies are not about Wicca, or the Craft; the children have an innate ability to do magic. They go to school to learn how to use it appropriately. Without it they would grow up and blow things up unintentionally.
It is acceptable so children can read HP books and many others.
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Lou2U
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That video is nonsense. 23 seconds in - “JK Rowling went to witch school”. No, she did not.
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Bruised_Reed
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No he didn’t. As Cardinal Ratzinger replied to a woman who sent him the book she wrote about the dangers of Harry Potter. He basically thanked her for the book and said it was good that the faithful be enlightened. One cannot be enlightened about a subject after being presented with misleading information. Also, note he did not say not one should read it. I doubt even ** after all this time** (please someone get that) the Pope Emeritus has read the books and is able to comment on on them knowledgeably.
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BlueMaxx
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The fact people so adamantly defend occultism is also a flag on the play for me…
I am in no way fear mongering…I am just being realistic. Words do mean something. I do not think you know me well enough nor my background to know what research I may or may not have done nor my relation to the literary world…I have posted nothing that is not true.
I will take the Word of God over the defense of a secular book about wizards and witches…
Anyway here are some road signs offering warnings…
1 Chronicles 10:13 13 Saul died because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance,
1 Samuel 15:23
23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has rejected you as king.”
2 Chronicles 33:66
He sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing his anger.
Leviticus 19:3131
“ ‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 20:66
“ ‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.
Revelation 18:1234:
23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world’s important people. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
Galatians 5:19-2119
The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Acts 19:
When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honor. 18 Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed what they had done. 19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly.
I am not trying to attack you, please understand.
I just think when we start rationalizing away those things that God teaches us are wrong and dangerous we are opening ourselves up to evil…and demons and all those really bad things that can plague us as humans.
We need to be much more selective about what we allow into our minds and selves…
Otherwise it reminds me of that old book…“The Screwtape Letters”
"My dear Wormwood…
Respectfully,
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I am in no way fear mongering…I am just being realistic. Words do mean something. I do not think you know me well enough nor my background to know what research I may or may not have done nor my relation to the literary world…I have posted nothing that is not true.
I will take the Word of God over the defense of a secular book about wizards and witches…
Anyway here are some road signs offering warnings…
1 Chronicles 10:13 13 Saul died because he was unfaithful to the LORD; he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance,
1 Samuel 15:23
23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has rejected you as king.”
2 Chronicles 33:66
He sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, arousing his anger.
Leviticus 19:3131
“ ‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 20:66
“ ‘I will set my face against anyone who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute themselves by following them, and I will cut them off from their people.
Revelation 18:1234:
23 The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world’s important people. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
Galatians 5:19-2119
The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Acts 19:
When this became known to the Jews and Greeks living in Ephesus, they were all seized with fear, and the name of the Lord Jesus was held in high honor. 18 Many of those who believed now came and openly confessed what they had done. 19 A number who had practiced sorcery brought their scrolls together and burned them publicly.
I am not trying to attack you, please understand.
I just think when we start rationalizing away those things that God teaches us are wrong and dangerous we are opening ourselves up to evil…and demons and all those really bad things that can plague us as humans.
We need to be much more selective about what we allow into our minds and selves…
Otherwise it reminds me of that old book…“The Screwtape Letters”
"My dear Wormwood…
Respectfully,
M
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Bruised_Reed
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How does it not realize that saying something like that undermines his credibility on everything else he talks about?
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Bruised_Reed
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No witchcraft so no occult.
Yes you are, albeit mildly.
True.
False.
Do you actually think people like this exist? They aren’t Wiccan-wannabes dabbling using their mum’s spice rack.
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BlueMaxx
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I am not sure who this Fr. Ripperger is but that was a weird clip…
Witch school? Which Witch school?
I hear that, and even I who am opposed to letting kids get obsessed with HP am sort of rolling my eyes…I am not saying he is not being truthful, but it just sounds…well off…?
Maybe it is just me…there is plenty of scripture to back up the point, not so sure about all the exorcism stuff…and the stuff he says he even tells us he has not investigated to check the facts.
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semper_catholicus
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Probably not.
Exorcists say to stay away form Harry Potter. The spells contained in the books are actual spells that have been used by witches, satanists etc.
Exorcists say to stay away form Harry Potter. The spells contained in the books are actual spells that have been used by witches, satanists etc.
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