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wisdomseeker
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What do you all say?
Should protestants find their way into the CC now that they know that their religion was made from men who rebelled against the Church
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Cat
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Whoa. Wait a minute.
What are you talking about?!
I am a convert from evangelical Protestantism. I can tell you right now, with absolute certainty, that most evangelical Protestants know nothing of the sort!
They have no idea that “their religion was made from men who rebelled against the Church.”
In fact, they consider these men heroes of the faith because they had the courage to speak out against a Babylonian mystery cult that worshipped a goddess instead of God, added the burden of works to faith, re-sacrificed the Lord Jesus over and over again, and inserted pagan rituals such as eating flesh and drinking blood to Christian gatherings.
So how did you get the idea that Protestants know that their “religion” is a sham?
In fact, do you realize that most evangelical Protestants would deny that Christianity is a “religion?” Evangelical Protestants object to the word “religion” to describe Biblical Christianity. To them, Christianity is a Person, Jesus Christ, and our faith in Him.
So I don’t get your post at all.
What are you talking about?!
I am a convert from evangelical Protestantism. I can tell you right now, with absolute certainty, that most evangelical Protestants know nothing of the sort!
They have no idea that “their religion was made from men who rebelled against the Church.”
In fact, they consider these men heroes of the faith because they had the courage to speak out against a Babylonian mystery cult that worshipped a goddess instead of God, added the burden of works to faith, re-sacrificed the Lord Jesus over and over again, and inserted pagan rituals such as eating flesh and drinking blood to Christian gatherings.
So how did you get the idea that Protestants know that their “religion” is a sham?
In fact, do you realize that most evangelical Protestants would deny that Christianity is a “religion?” Evangelical Protestants object to the word “religion” to describe Biblical Christianity. To them, Christianity is a Person, Jesus Christ, and our faith in Him.
So I don’t get your post at all.
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wisdomseeker
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I think that most know what the Church teaches and know that she exists. It should not matter what protestant were told by their leaders. Today, the information is out there.
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Big_Dummy
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or they could avoid the CC because God used men to restore or revive from CC backslidding — Mary doctrines used as evidence, for example.
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Carlan
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The beliefs of Protestants today is still what was handed to them from those men who rebelled and separated from the Apostolic Church 500years ago. So they cannot be held responsible for their sin of rebellion, disobedience.
However, If a Protestant today were to discover the truth of all Revelation handed down to us through the Apostles and their descendants , they would have to stop being Protestants , continue to seek all truth and act upon God’s actual grace to return to the True Apostolic Church. In it all , however, God will be their judge, Peace, Carlan
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wisdomseeker
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Only if the CC was to teach only what man wants to believe. From the past we can tell taht many rejected the fact that the Jesus is the Son of God. Are they justified?
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LemonAndLime
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You’re making the assumption that Protestants believe that the Catholic Church has authority over them, and you’re also making the assumption that Protestants believe their beliefs are entirely man-made and not how true Christianity should be.
Many Protestants believe that the CC has got it wrong, and they are right.
I would contend that a large number of protestants really haven’t considered, nor do they care, what the Catholic Church teaches. They don’t care what Lutherans teach (if they’re not Lutheran), nor Orthodoxy, etc. They simply believe in the manner in which they were raised. These others are just other churches on the next block.
The notion that modern day everyday lay protestants are protestants because they want to protest the Catholic Church seems far-fetched.
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ConstantineTG
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If they accept that statement that you made, then yes. But often, they do not.
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JRKH
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I say the question is based upon a false premise, that “protestants”… 'know", what you claim they know.
You are applying something that is entirely individual (what one “knows”) to a group at large. Sorry but this just does not work.
So the entire presmice of the question fails.
Peace
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wisdomseeker
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The principle is the same. they are all based on the same idea. taht Jesus did not build a Church or that she apostasized. or that the CC has no authority. that is protesting.
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wisdomseeker
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So, should they or should they not?
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wisdomseeker
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All non Catholics.
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wisdomseeker
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Is the CC still on the mission when she first started which is evangelizing all into the Church or not?
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wisdomseeker
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they are right?
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gcnuss
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I think that is a rather broad definition of “protesting.” There are many protestants who, in their hearts, are following Jesus faithfully without any (or very little) knowledge of Catholic teaching. Their focus is not on what they are not but on what they understand themselves to be, i.e., faithful Christians. From their perspective, the Catholic Church is another expression of Christianity but not one that needs to be protested against. One can disagree with Catholic teachings without protesting against them.
From my own perspective, I have great respect for the Catholic Church even if I’m not in tune with all that it teaches. I have even said that if I could not be a Lutheran I would have to consider Catholicism very seriously. Yet, there are some aspects of Catholic teaching that would give me difficulty. So, for now, I have the choice of being a “good” Lutheran or a “bad” (or “cafeteria”) Catholic.
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wisdomseeker
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You could also be a good Catholic. we are not all bad you know. I guess this goes to show that as so many think that the jews are bad so they think of Catholics.
You are a perfect example of I am talking about. knows hte Church yet rejects her.
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JRKH
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Should they or should they not WHAT
If and when an individual, or group of individuals, comes to the realization (knows) that the communion they are in is not the fullness of Truth and that the Catholic Church IS the True Church of Christ, then yes they they should find their way here.
However there is no way we can presume that “prtoestants” (as a group) already know these things.
You see the problem with your statement is that you make a assumption not in evidence.
Should “protestants…now that they know…” This assumes that protestants now know what you claim they now know - this has not been proven even within the context of this thread.
A Protestant could just as easily write, “Should Catholics find their way into the Protestant reformed Church now that they know that their religion was made from men who corrupted the true Church.”
Think how you would respond to such a statement.
You would say “I know no such thing”, and proceed to give reasons why this assertion is wrong. Thus proving that the person who made such a sweeping assertion is wrong in assuming that “Catholics” “Know” what he asserts they know…
You are making the same sweeping error
Peace
James
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Carlan
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May I ask, what are the aspects which are likely to give you difficulty? Peace, Carlan- Status