Should the 19 year old Florida school shooter be given the death penalty?

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I dont know how you reach that conclusion. Nothing is mentioned of the man. Jesus only said "“Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”
 
I dont think the Church is saying there is never a justifiable reason to sentance someone to Capital Punishment. But that there are very few situations which warrant that measure.
 
Yes, but Leviticus states that both the man and the woman committing adultery would be stoned. And the eyewitnesses would be the ones to cast the first stone. Jesus was challenging those people to carry out the Law of Moses if they dared to, i.e. With no falsehood, which was obviously not the case, hence why everybody left
 
"and forgive us our trespasses (sins) AS we forgive those who trespass (sin) against us.

Personally, the very human side of me says give this clown the “nighty night” needle. But the side Christ asks up to adopt, to follow Him, says I will be judged in the manner I judge others. If I demand death for others for their sins, what do I deserve in His eyes??

That being said, lock him up forever and don’t ever let him see a second of freedom ever again.
 
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I agree that they were not being lawful im more than one way! But Jesus was bringing in a new law! One that offered forgiveness, because He was ready to place Himself in the place of all of us who deserve death.
 
Than by your own logic Jesus would lock you up forever.

In any case, even if you don’t judge others and don’t condemn their behavior, Jesus ain’t gonna let you off the hook if you start stealing money by the millions or doing other crimes, Jesus wouldn’t apply the same measuring stick you applied to others, so it’s not a hard, stick to it always phrase
 
Sure Jesus was abolishing death for adultery. There’s no evidence He abolished it for murder, though, just like He didn’t abolish slavery
 
He isn’t a danger any more. If we can we should make His life a penance for the victims.
 
Have you ever had exposure to those who are very mentally ill? There are people who hear voices telling them to do evil things, but their state of mind is such that they don’t have the ability to reason “this is wrong”. Unfortunately, insanity defenses rarely work, so defense attorneys usually recommend against them, except in extreme cases. Plea bargains (e.g., to reduced charges) are better for the defendants than risking a guilty verdict on all charges brought against them. It’s why the prisons are full of mentally ill people, when they belong in secure psychiatric facilities.
 
Something like 95% of people in secure psychiatric facilities have been turned loose.
 
Turned loose by doctors who specialize in mental illness and have stabilized their patients for a long period of time. If memory serves, Ronald Reagan’s shooter is still not free of all restrictions. I was told by a criminal attorney once that people sentenced to psychiatric facilities usually spend more time incarcerated than if they plea bargained and gone to prison.
 
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Life without parole in a maximum security penitentiary.
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This will only cost the taxpayers about 75, 000 a year.
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The price to not play God.
 
He said you may have heard an eye for eye but that he, Jesus, said turn the other cheek.
 
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Historically, the Catholic Church has supported the Death Penalty because it grants the criminal the blessing of knowing the date and time of his death.
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Actually CCC 2267 is clear on when the death penalty is permitted under Catholic teaching.

And it is only in very rare, if not practically nonexistent cases.

"Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”
 
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phil19034:
Historically, the Catholic Church has supported the Death Penalty because it grants the criminal the blessing of knowing the date and time of his death.
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Actually CCC 2267 is clear on when the death penalty is permitted under Catholic teaching.

And it is only in very rare, if not practically nonexistent cases.

"Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity “are very rare, if not practically nonexistent.”
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Thank you. But I said “historically.”

What the Catechism says regarding the death penalty is a 20th century change in prudential judgement.

NOTE: I 100% agree with the Catechism.
 
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